Any states where you have NOT seen a "No Carry" sign?


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Moparmike
December 2, 2004, 07:36 PM
I have lived in AR all my life and pride myself on being observant. In all this time, I have seen only one "no carry" type sign on private property, and that was at a bar. The only public property places I have seen a similar sign was at a public school and City Hall. Not even the Courthouse has one that I noticed. (memory may be faulty on that...)



So, has anyone not seen an Anti-CCW sign on a private business that didnt have carry already prohibited by law?

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jdkelly
December 2, 2004, 07:44 PM
Mike,

I've can't ever remember seeing a "no-firearms" sign in Massachusetts, but they must be here somewhere.


I take that back, the classroom in one of the Ranges I shoot at has a "No Firearms or Ammunition Allowed" sign.


Respectfully,

jdkelly

sm
December 2, 2004, 07:45 PM
Faded Rose Restaurant in Little Rock .

Yep many know, many wrote in , even folks from out of state communicated displeasure . Many will not frequent, even folks from afar if they come to LR.

*someone* made this known about the Faded Rose. ;)

CarlS
December 2, 2004, 07:56 PM
I have not seen one in Florida except for place forbidden by state law to carry.

Standing Wolf
December 2, 2004, 09:18 PM
I never saw one in the People's Republic of California. I've never seen one in the two and a half years I've lived in Colorado.

Ed N.
December 2, 2004, 09:31 PM
The only one I've seen in Florida was at a Waffle House.

Likely most businesses here never bothered when CCW first became available, because the signs have about the same legal weight as a "No Food Or Beverages" sign. I.e., virtually none.

CCW's been legal here without problems for so many years now that I doubt anyone thinks much about it.

Marnoot
December 2, 2004, 09:35 PM
The only private establishment I've noticed a "No Guns" posting on in Utah is a dollar theater in Provo. I give it and the "No Outside Food/Drinks" at it & other theaters a passing smirk as I walk in with my CZ P-01 strapped IWB and candy in pocket carry. :p

dav
December 2, 2004, 09:50 PM
Standing Wolf is right, they do not use those signs on private businesses in California because the perception still is that it is not legal to carry anywhere in the state.

In truth, though, there are a few lucky people who are allowed to carry. But still no signs.

Wedge
December 2, 2004, 10:05 PM
Any signs I have ever seen have been worded to say "illegal weapons prohibited" or something to that effect. I live in the Empire State where it is so difficult to get a carry permit once you have it you can pretty much go anywhere.

Chuck Jennings
December 2, 2004, 10:34 PM
Ditto on never seeing one in CA. CCW is way off most people's radar. Most people assume that you can't.

JeFF D
December 2, 2004, 10:47 PM
I have never seen one in MI, which is a shall-issue state.

Kim
December 2, 2004, 11:06 PM
I live in AR too and have never seen a no firearms sign except at schools. I've heard that Park Plaza mall is posted but I refuse to go to LR to shop or anything. I see quite a few of the " No shirt,No shoes, No service" signs though.

Stickjockey
December 2, 2004, 11:15 PM
Haven't seen one in Oregon. Not even in the People's Metropolitan Area of Portland.

TearsOfRage
December 2, 2004, 11:28 PM
Never seen one in NH except at courthouses (about the only place prohibited by law) and at the airport security check-in.

:cool: The Pheasant Lane mall has, or used to have, a sign listing unacceptable behavior which included something like "visual display of weapons", which is fair enough. It implictly allows concealed weapons, and a crowded mall literally right next to the Mass border isn't a real wise place to open carry anyway.

P95Carry
December 2, 2004, 11:34 PM
I am not that widely travelled but yet to see one in PA - of course the ''usual'' Fed limitations apply but then we would not I think expect to see signs there necessarily.

In essence - barring very remote instances, I can and do carry - 16/7

Old Dog
December 2, 2004, 11:35 PM
Never seen one in Washingon (state) (courthouses excepted), although there was one hospital up here that has a small sign with a pistol silhouette in the red circle with the slash through it (and strangely no explanation) by the front entrance ... WA was one of the original shall-issue states from way back and concealed carry is routine here.

QuarterBoreGunner
December 3, 2004, 02:06 AM
"what's that? you mean someone could actually carry a concealed weapon in here if you didn't post that sign?"

I love california.

Proudly carrying a legally concealed weapon, pretty much everywhere in San Francisco...

stv
December 3, 2004, 05:10 AM
I've never seen a sign like that anywhere in California. CCWs just aren't on anyone's radar.

71Commander
December 3, 2004, 05:34 AM
In Michigan, private businesses don't have an option of barring CCW's. State law dictates where and when.

reagansquad
December 3, 2004, 07:26 AM
Never seen one in Idaho or Washington.

The general rule of thumb here is "Oh... ok. It's ok if you have a liscense. Just not if you don't." :neener:

RevDisk
December 3, 2004, 07:59 AM
Never seen any in PA except for courthouses.

Diggler
December 3, 2004, 09:18 AM
The only ones I have seen here in PA, and it is one that is put up without basis in legality, are the ones on the doors of Pittsburgh International Airport.

Yes, the Allegheny County Police actually believe that they can arrest you for carrying a concealed weapon anywhere on the property... not just in the sterile area. I called them last year and challenged them, and they told me I would be arrested if found with a weapon not ready to be checked as luggage. Curiously, NO ONE could cite the law that I would be charged under.

:rolleyes:

c_yeager
December 3, 2004, 09:23 AM
Never seen one in Washingon (state) (courthouses excepted), although there was one hospital up here that has a small sign with a pistol silhouette in the red circle with the slash through it (and strangely no explanation) by the front entrance ... WA was one of the original shall-issue states from way back and concealed carry is routine here.

I know where this is, and it is the only place that I have ever seen a no firearms sign as well in this state.

PaleRyder
December 3, 2004, 12:07 PM
I've seen them in hospitals in Indiana. But apart from LE places, nowhere else.

Chipperman
December 3, 2004, 12:21 PM
"illegal weapons prohibited" signs. That cracks me up.

I think I'll make up a giant sign visible from the highway saying,
" IT IS ILLEGAL TO BREAK THE LAW!! "


:banghead:

shawn1985
December 3, 2004, 01:08 PM
Maybe I'm just not paying attention, but I don't think I've ever seen one in Mass, New Hampshire, or Vermont.

Hemicuda
December 3, 2004, 01:12 PM
I once ran into (info was posted on TFL) a no-carry sigh on a majior FOrd dealership on Plymouth Road in Livonia Mi.

I went there, and sure enough, on the front door, there it was...

I waited in the lot, and a salesman showed up, so i talked to him about a nice 50 thousand dollar f-350 4x4 super-crew with all the options, even gave him my credit info. (the whole time remaining OUTSIDE the building!)

AFTER he had ok'd everything, and he had "made the sale" (except for me signing paperwork) he asked me to come inside and sign for the truck... I feigned "noticing" the sign, and informed him that I could not in good concience purchase a vehicle from a place that didn't believe in my right to defend myself...

he brought out the manager, who said they could "waive" the requirement, and met me in "while armed" to buy the truck...

I told them to go urinate up a rope... and said i thought i'd go to their competition, Dick Scott Dodge on Ann Arbor Rd. and buy a Dodge, since THEY weren't trying to infringe on my rights...

2 days later, I drove into that ford dealers lot after hours, and the vinyl stick-on "no gun" signs were GONE from the door!

geekWithA.45
December 3, 2004, 01:13 PM
Never seen one in PA.

The closest I've seen are the various "Keep your carry gun in its holster" signs at gunshops, and the usual courthouse deals.

AFAIK, PA went shall issue before all the "posted sign" nonsense became popular, and there's no provision for it in PA law, praise the deity of your choice.

After all, our RKBA for the purposes of defending ourselves and our state "shall not be QUESTIONED." (except under a few arcane and baffling circumstances)

dakotasin
December 3, 2004, 02:05 PM
i saw a picture of one once on the news here at a bank... never saw one in person, though, except at gunshops which say 'any firearm you intend to remove from its holster or case must be unloaded'.

psyopspec
December 3, 2004, 03:08 PM
The only private business I've seen posted here in ND was the corporate headquarters of the bank I do business with. The posting is at the bottom of a "Community First Customer Parking Only" sign, with a font less than 1/4 the size of the rest of the text. It reads "Alcohol and Firearms STRICTLY Prohibited." That doesn't apply to permit holders in my state, so I ignore and continue to do business with them since none of the branches are posted. The wording on the sign is hardly noticeable, and could very well be some middle man's way of giving management a warm fuzzy without carrying any actual weight. Also, since I've only seen it on the parking ramp, there's nothing to indicate they even mean the actual bank itself.

The bank was recently bought out, and if the new management wants to post all branches, and in a highly conspicuous manner, I will consider moving my accounts and letting them know why.

psyopspec
December 3, 2004, 03:13 PM
Odd, the post didn't show up after I kept reloading the thread, then upon repost of the origional, both appeared.

Ginger
December 3, 2004, 03:28 PM
I've never seen one in Colorado. I don't think I've ever seen any in Wyoming, either.

magsnubby
December 3, 2004, 05:58 PM
I've saw them posted in several rest areas along Hwy 99 between Fresno and SoCal.

Daemon688
December 3, 2004, 06:22 PM
Various restaurants, government buildings, on campus, libraries, and some retail stores.

carpettbaggerr
December 3, 2004, 06:44 PM
I live in the Empire State where it is so difficult to get a carry permit once you have it you can pretty much go anywhere. If you live in NY state, it's actually easy to get a carry permit. Other than NYC, NY state is a de facto shall-issue state. A pistol permit must be issued within 6 months, or you must be informed in writing of the specific reasons for denial.

Outside NYC and a few surrounding counties, unrestricted carry permits are routinely issued, and are good for life.

I've never seen a sign in NY banning CCW. Not even sure if it'd be legal here. :)

hutch24
December 3, 2004, 09:06 PM
I've never seen one here in Alaska. :D

Bad Words
December 3, 2004, 09:20 PM
For Washington, I've seen them at both public and private hospitals, the SSA office (they wrongly claim it's illegal to carry there), and the Southcenter mall. The posting at the Southcenter mall was prominent several years ago, but now it's just small print lost on a sign of various rules. It says something like "posession of any weapons, either legal or illegal, is prohibited - this includes knives, pepperspray, guns, etc..." They have a knife store that sells knives primarily used as weapons, by the way.

El Rojo
December 3, 2004, 09:20 PM
I've saw them posted in several rest areas along Hwy 99 between Fresno and SoCal.No kidding? I have stopped at some of the I-5 rest stops between Bakersfield and the Bay, but have never seen any signs.

That is the one nice thing about the PRK, if you do have CCW, no one thinks you do. I am sure when people meet me the last thing they would think is, "Wow that guy has a Glock 27 in his waistband". It is more like, "He must be happy to see me." Just kidding. Sorry.

rick_reno
December 3, 2004, 09:24 PM
I've never seen one in Idaho. Here in the courthouse they people go thru a metal detector, if you're carrying your weapon you're told to put it in your car.

modifiedbrowning
December 3, 2004, 10:19 PM
The only ones I see here in Montana are at the local gunshow.

PUMC_TomG
December 3, 2004, 11:28 PM
Oddly enough - the only sign I've ever seen here in Florida is hanging outside a GUNSHOP :what: in Melbourne, FL.

I don't shop there or shoot there anymore.

Phil Ca
December 4, 2004, 12:11 AM
i have not seen a sign personally in Cali. but we do have places where they are not allowed. Courthouses and some public buildings and of course fedeal buildings and post offices. Drinking establishments and gaming casinos would also be a NO.

The average person does not realize that some people have CCW's in this state! SF City/County had a grand total of ten with several hundred thousand residents. My former county had maybe 150 thousand residents and had over five-hundred permits. My current county has over six-hundred permits.

Each county seems to have different criteria for issuance. My reason for a permit in my new county was not reason enough until the issuing office gave me some tips on what was needed.

QuarterBoreGunner
December 4, 2004, 12:41 AM
Phil Cal has it down.
The average person does not realize that some people have CCW's in this state!
Which really does work in the favor of the few in the urban areas... they just NEVER think that the bulge on your hip is anything other than a mobile-phone or a Palm Pilot or some such. A gun? Good Lord NO! In the Macy's store on Union Square? not possible... yeah right... not possible...

sm
December 4, 2004, 01:01 AM
I found another one in North Little Rock.

Small Pawn Shop , under the "We buy guns" he had a handwritten sign " NO firearms allowed".

Since this is "improper signage" , I need to go in and see what is up - carrying concealed of course. :p

There was a Gas Station in Ohio , I forget , near Cincinatti I think. With AR res and Fl non res...and Ohio "laws" , I would have driven straight through the state like I normally do...took a detour because of an accident , and had to use the restroom.

I pick a gas station that 3 LEOs come into, I didn't see the sign until I exited...someone was standing in front of sign when I entered.

" If that is your truck , you are a long way from home son". I just answered " Yes Sir and left. I was headed to PA. :)

That was the trip I took starting from Alabama, to TX to the far upper part of PA - non stop. Tired puppy when I arrived.

stevesmith7
December 4, 2004, 07:20 AM
Wolf,
The IMAX theater on Powers had one last time I went there. It's been about a year. Only one I've seen in five years here.

Steve

Phil Ca
December 4, 2004, 02:59 PM
QuarterBoreGunner: Yup, BTDT, I do not go to SF unarmed. I worked there 27 years and old habits die hard! We were at Macy*s across from Union Square at the Cheesescake Factory when my son and his fiance were here from Switzerland some months back.I recogniszed some society type liberals that i had seen photos of the the papers. They would have had a fit if they new someone in the place was armed. :cool:

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