[locknload]

I have been wondering about all the frustrating stories I have read about the rejection of fingerprints. Can any of the Oklahoma people tell me, how much time went by before they got a notice that the fingerprints were shot down? (No pun intended) I mean, from the day the paperwork was put in, the fees were paid, etc. I read several threads by folks that posted the info; some said their prints were rejected three & four times. But, no one has stated how much time it took before the powers that be sent them a notice to re-do the prints. I applied for my CCW six weeks ago. If it takes pretty much the full ninety days, assuming my prints are okay, I should hear from them on or about the 24th of January. Thanks in advance, as usual!!

[Okiecruffler]

I know at least 2 dozen okies with CCW's and I don't know of any of them having their prints rejected. I did get a notice saying I couldn't use a photo of the family pig, but when I showed up they just handed over the licence.

[locknload]

Maybe you should have used a picture of the family cow! (lol) Actually, I read several threads on packing.org. that had their prints rejected. Just thought I'd put a thread here to see if I could pull any fellow Okies out of the woodwork..

[another okie]

The sheriff did mine - no problems.

[Flyboy]

No problems here. Everybody along the way was helpful and professional, even when I was calling every three days: "is it done yet? Is it done yet? Is it done yet?"

[saltydog]

Problem here.
Creek county Seriff Dept. finger printed me twice. Both times OBI rejected them. I said "screw it" and had my uncle take me to Okla City to have OBI finger print me there. OBI must accept "their own prints." On the way out I asked them if they accepted "partial prints or smeared prints" of a criminal at a crime scene. :confused: They thought that was real funny. I did to. All in all it took me 75 days and a trip to OK City, as I was counting. :neener:

[tulsamal]

Mine went through on the first try. Craig County sheriff's office.

Gregg

Vinita, OK

[mons meg]

Same boat as you, still waiting on Logan County. The Deputy that did mine was *very* careful and redid two prints to make sure they were nice and clear so as not to get rejected. I'm only up to my 3rd week, though, so I'm not getting antzy yet. All my friends went to about 6 weeks before getting the call to come get their licenses (Tulsa).

[Flyboy]

Okiecruffler, we need to get together and go shoot sometime. I finally joined OKC gun club; you pick the weekend, and I'm game. I'll even bring the ammo. (Hope you like .22LR, as I'm a college student. :D )

[Dog]

No problem here.

[bratch]

Whats the wait right now?
I sent mine in at the beginning of November. I was hearing they were backlogged right now and taking longer than usual.

[wmenorr67]

Did mine at Tulsa County a little over a year now with no problems. Sent it in the day before Thanksgiving and it was issued on 15 Jan. Just about 8 wks.

[Okiecruffler]

You bring the 22LR I'll bring the 444, we'll meet somewhere in the middle. I really need to join the OKC Gun club. It's on my list of things to do in January, but it was on my list of things to do last January too. :rolleyes:
At one time several Okies were informally discussing getting together, but I'm not sure what happened with that.

Not sure how many of you are on Yahoo, but I just put together a group for Oklahoma shooters. http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/OklahomaShooters/

[TonyB]

When I got finger printed here in upstate NY,the guy said "these may not go through."(I have arthritis in my left hand and the prints were odd shaped.)but they went trough OK anyway.Of course my prints were already on file somewhere from a job I had years ago,so maybe that helped.....but I did have to wait the 6 months(almost to the day) for my permit(with restrictions).Then after about a year I wrote to the judge and got my unresticted permit:)me=happy camper ;)

[Werewolf]

And my fingerprints got rejected the first pass. I knew they would, the deputy sheriff knew they would and they were.

I knew they would because of a large scar on the middle finger of my left hand. The Deputy Sheriff said it would be because of an overload of apps at the time.

It took less than a week after filing the app to get the rejection notice. The notice said to go get them done again at the sheriff's office. Screw that. I went directly to OSBI on Harvey in OKC and had the digital scan done.

From app date to picking up my CCW took 26 days. Considering I had been told it would take 60 or more I consider my self pretty lucky. I suspect the process went so fast because I'm in the system so to speak.

[TheEgg]

Not in Oklahoma, but in Texas.

They took a full 60 days to reject my fingerprint card. I had to have them redone. Once those were submitted, they started the clock all over again, and it took another 60 days to get the permit.

Elapsed time 4 months. :fire:

[berettaman]

It took my dad two trips to the Mays County SD.They are using the eletronic printer that wont accept a bad print.It did.Finally after about a month,two weeks each time to get the rejection letters I took him to Okc to have it done in person.The license almost beat us home.(haha).11 days later the letter to pick it up came in the mail. :)

[g56]

OSBI kept kicking back my prints, they rejected them so many times they sent me a letter saying that I was close to denial because they hadn't gotten any readable prints. I did a lot of fingerprinting when I was a Deputy and knew that my fingerprints are very fine, they are hard to get a clean print card, facing possible denial I called them and asked if I could come there to be fingerprinted, so they could keep doing it till they were satisfied, they told me to come on down, they had their most experienced person do my prints, they had to do them 3 or 4 more times while I was there, they finally got a set they could read...and I subsequently got my permit.

One thing that helped, most of the time if a single print is messed up they will reject the entire fingerprint card, at their office they had replacement panels, so if one print was messed up, they could keep working on it till they got a clean one, and then attach it to the main print card, they had to do that a bunch of times for me.

[HankB]

In TX, not OK. First time, a Pflugerville cop did my prints; even to my eye they looked bad, but he insisted they were fine. So I took my packet down to DPS (advantage of living near Austin) and had them look 'em over. Problem. They redid them for $10.

Second time, renewal. Austin cop did my prints. Same story AGAIN. Another $10 at DPS HQ.

So . . . if LEOs with a cooperative subject using fingerprint ink on a fingerprint card struggle to get good prints . . . how reliably can they lift prints from a crime scene?

If I'm ever on a jury where fingerprint evidence is introduced, I'm afraid I'm going to be VERY hard to convince.

[cerberus]

It's the FBI that rejects the fingerprints if they are just a little messy. The person doing the printing many times does not use a lot of care in the printing process. They have to be rolled just so and not smeared. I would advise getting an extra App. kit and have the extra finger print card ready if the first atemp at your printing does not look real good. :rolleyes:

[mod12]

when i applied here in ohio for my ccw, the sherriff's office had a small box that somewhat resembled a xerox machine. as i pressed my fingers on a glass plate a light scanned it and then blinked off. the whole procedure only took 30/45 seconds and they were accepted immediately. no muss, no fuss, no inky fingers.

[g56]

I could only wish we had one of those laser fingerprint scanners! They take fingerprinting out of the stone age!

In Oklahoma the OSBI puts your fingerprints on file, there is no need to re submit your fingerprints when you renew. In my case, they already had my fingerprints on file since I am a Cleet Certified Law Enforcement Officer in Oklahoma, but no...they wanted another set! They probably couldn't read the set they had on file from Cleet! :rolleyes:

It is the OSBI that rejects the prints, we would send the prints from booking to the OSBI, and I have received the packets of prints they send back as unreadable! :fire: That was before the computerized national fingerprint system they have now, I would guess that departments that don't have laser scanners send the cards to OSBI, where they classify them and enter them into the system.

[dav]

mod12 wrote:a small box that somewhat resembled a xerox machine. as i pressed my fingers on a glass plate a light scanned it and then blinked off. the whole procedure only took 30/45 seconds and they were accepted immediately. no muss, no fuss, no inky fingers.When I had my prints done recently they had that. Not quite as quick and painless as it went for you, though.

The operator kept rubbing the screen down with alcohol, and had some kind of gel I had to put on my fingers that supposedly made them read more clearly (that's what she kept having to wipe off the glass).

Still, lots better than print cards. You know instantly whether the prints are going to be accepted by the computer.

[Carlos Cabeza]

Fingerprints..................What's the point ? :rolleyes: to make sure you're who you say you are?

Otherwise, no prob's here.