reflections on the PRK...


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Kaylee
March 1, 2003, 02:43 PM
wow.

I'll say it again.

wow.

I just got back from the several day trip to the SF Bay Area of California. It had been several years since last I was there, and I'd forgotten the tenor of the place.

What struck me most was the culture... while proclaiming itself as open and tolerent..it was nothing of the sort. In fact, the outright bigotry toward anything not-hyper-liberal in the popular media and culture seemed pervasive.. it reminded me of nothing so much as the most stringent parts of the Bible Belt when I was growing up in it once upon a time.

Except instead of saying "it's okay to be bigots because God said so" it was "it's okay to be bigots because we're right and everyone else is a Neandrathal" ... which I guess amounts to much the same thing.

Some things just Could Not Be Said... the self-imposed code of correct speech and action seemed pervasive.

Then there was the panhandler I took to lunch my first day there. You know, on the principle of "as ye do unto the least of these...."

wow. The man's sole ambition in life was to find a woman with kids so he could supplement his disability check with her AFDC check and so "retire" to write his "spiritual songs" about the women he couldn't get on earth and so would have in heaven. I tried hard to find ONE thing about this man that was admirable.. the best I could do was that he wasn't *as* hooked on drugs as he used to be. He had absolutely no shame over living on the largess of others.

I found myself torn between human empathy/pity that a man could sink so low, and a flat desire to see Darwin work his magic on him.

The two people I met who were most inspiring to me though were two hispanic women.. legal immigrants or not, I don't know. Regardless, they were waitressing in a small restaurant -- still smiling and laughing as they worked at a job most folks I met seemed to think they were "too good for" anymore. To work those hours, at that pay -- and in the SF Bay housing market, no less -- and STILL be smiling and happy.. it was incredible to see.

Finally.. the gun stores. :)

All the ARs/AKs were gone... in their place were rows of M1As, Steyr tactical and scout rifles... all manner of scoped bolt guns. There was a certain delicious irony in the realization that all those weapon control laws had the effect of putting more powerful arms on the market, and in making the citizens of the state more inclined to actually use them. Kinda scary that way, actually.

Still -- the people I met in those places were among the most grounded, dedicated, take-no-prisoners-won't-be-moved stubborn honorable idealists I've ever had the pleasure of meeting. Y'all have some good folks down that way.

My congratulations and thanks to you all.
Life on the front lines looks like no picnic, and I was constantly impressed with what you handled down there. You really are the tip of the spear.

God Bless You.

-K

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Sven
March 1, 2003, 02:59 PM
Wish we'd had time to head to the range together.

One of my ultra-lib roomates was in my room a couple months back and said, out of the blue, "I'd NEVER let my son or daughter date a Republican". This girl is the daughter of a Stanford professor, so you can only imagine the brainwashing in place.

It's not that she is such a Democrat, its the fact that she projects her worldview that far... the idea that she would someday control her son or daughter and see that they date the 'right person' smacks me of the same attitude of a lot of the people in the Bay Area, namely:

"We don't trust that people can take care of themselves, so we will tell them what they can and can't do, and create a welfare state in the process."

Jim March
March 1, 2003, 07:05 PM
Welcome to my world.

:banghead:

The pro-freedom types still left are one HARDCORE pack though :neener:.

twoblink
March 1, 2003, 08:41 PM
Kaylee..

:banghead:

The PRK, why I won't go back, why Skunk wants out, and why Jim March is fairly famous there..

Let's send the SF people to Iraq...

That's my answer to 99% of the questions btw, send them to Iraq!

Reality is a harsh mistress..

Standing Wolf
March 1, 2003, 09:01 PM
Except instead of saying "it's okay to be bigots because God said so" it was "it's okay to be bigots because we're right and everyone else is a Neandrathal" ... which I guess amounts to much the same thing.

Well said, although in my opinion, it doesn't amount to the same thing: it is the same thing.

One of the ways I put myself though school was an evening janitorial job: not much pay, but easy work, and it left my days free for classes and shooting pool. My boss was a proud, feisty member of the Ku Klux Klan. I saw him dance up and down the hall and howl with glee the evening Martin Luther King, Jr. was shot. He was the real thing.

I spent ten years in the People's Republic of California, most in Silicon Valley. Most of the leftists I met and worked with there were every bit as narrow-minded and hateful as that old janitorial supervisor.

I believe hatred is hatred is hatred, and the impulse to deny others their freedom is identical, no matter what excuses are offered in an effort to justify it.

QuickDraw
March 1, 2003, 11:00 PM
Kaylee,
As a Californian let me say Thank you.As bad as California is,
its nice to get a little positive press:D.
Through The High Road and Calguns.net,I'm meeting more
and more "like minded people"here.So, who knows.
Anyway,your welcome anytime!

QuickDraw

Guy B. Meredith
March 2, 2003, 12:44 AM
Kaylee,

You are right, the anti gun attitude and other similar forms of bigotry run rampant here. Just like the old "Free Speech" garbage where the bigotry was that the free speech extended only to those spouting hateful froth.

The closest I come to bigotry is in dealing with panhandlers.

One of the local news channels did a bit on a couple of panhandlers in SF. One in particular had one leg missing and spent his day holding a sign at the freeway onramp asking for money. Turns out they interviewed him, finding out he was making on the order of $70,000 a year!! By golly, I have to WORK to pay the rent. Okay, the next question is "where does all that money go?" They followed him and found him shooting it up in drugs.

I have ZERO tolerance for panhandlers. Though some are mentally incompetent, a large number are just derelict drugees. In 1989 I took dive in a business I was trying to start up and ended up tossing papers through the night and restocking library shelves part of the day to help keep the rent paid and my wife and daughter fed. Anyone who can sit around all day holding a sign has time to do some honest work and I can't believe washing dishes is beneath some grubby derelict sitting on the street.

GRRRRRRRR!!!

Jackanape
March 2, 2003, 02:43 AM
Kaylee, If we knew you were coming we'd have baked a cake. One thing that I do like about living behind enemy lines here in S.F. is that the pro freedom folks that you meet really mean it. Pity there aren't more of us here...

4570Rick
March 2, 2003, 02:43 AM
I've not been in SF since '67 and my memory of it makes me want to:barf:. Can't think of one reason to go back. It's bad enough in OC.:banghead: :banghead:

Skunkabilly
March 3, 2003, 02:05 AM
The bigotry really depends on who you hang around.

Blackhawk
March 3, 2003, 02:23 AM
Thanks for the well written report, Kaylee. :D

S_O_Laban
March 3, 2003, 06:29 AM
Kaylee, interesting post. I never lived in the PRK nor do I want to, but I can tell you, having lived in Afganastan, India and Indonesia, why thoses waiteress were happy. The PRK is still better than where they came from, amazing :eek: . I personally hate the way things are out there and I don't have to live there, just read about it, but as much as I like to complain, anywhere in the US of A is better than the third world. I just hope we can keep it that way.

Sven
March 4, 2003, 06:18 PM
"That government is best
which governs least."

-Henry David Thoreau

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