NC CCW laws...


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MisterG
December 7, 2004, 09:53 PM
I've been looking at Packing.org but that legal mumbo jumbo is hard to decipher. Can someone explain me in simple terms some of the CCW laws of North Cackalacky? I used to live in SC and still have that permit but we are considering moving to NC. This issue may have some bearing on our decision though. Thanks.

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RoyG
December 7, 2004, 10:16 PM
Places off-limits while carrying:
Schools, public or private, all levels including universities
Assemblies and establishments where alcohol is both sold and consumed
State Buildings
Financial Institutions
Assemblies and establishments where admission was charged
Parade, funeral procession, picket line, or demonstration
Areas of emergencies or riots
Any place posted no weapons/firearms (can be a hand written sign)

You must inform LEO if you are/are not carrying


I think we are up to 29 or 30 states that honors the NC CHP

LiquidTension
December 7, 2004, 10:32 PM
"Assemblies and establishments where admission was charged."

Does that include movie theaters?

Wild Bill
December 7, 2004, 10:41 PM
Most of the answers you seek ...

http://www.grnc.org/

MisterG
December 7, 2004, 11:02 PM
That's a good start.

SkyDaver
December 7, 2004, 11:34 PM
Yes, it does include movie theaters :fire:

RealGun
December 8, 2004, 05:05 AM
I live in SC. One difference I recall with NC is greater freedom for open carry. Please verify that. I don't know of any CCW net losses when moving from SC to NC.

Model520Fan
December 8, 2004, 05:59 AM
Check into PERSONAL property taxes. This may amount to registration of every gun, and paying for it every year. Don't know if it's true, but I think it once was.

Waitone
December 8, 2004, 08:46 AM
NC does have a law that some think permits open carry. Trouble is the law is obscure and obtuse. I have yet to encounter anyone in LE or the gun culture that advocates open carry. The law is just too screwy.

CCH is administered by your local sheriff. Shall issue state. CCH can be used instead of a gun purchase permit. See it, buy it, walk out with it, shoot it. :D

It ain't perfect but it is acceptable.

RealGun
December 8, 2004, 11:07 AM
NC does have a law that some think permits open carry. Trouble is the law is obscure and obtuse. I have yet to encounter anyone in LE or the gun culture that advocates open carry. The law is just too screwy. - Waitone

Traveler's Guide to the Firearms Laws of the Fifty States - 2004 Edition
researched and written by J. Scott Kappas, Esq.

SC - Open carry - "prohibited in most public areas" (ed. permitted on private property - I open carry when I mow)

NC - Open carry - "unrestricted under state law except for certain events such as public parades"

Note that even before NC-SC CCW license reciprocity was established, an SC resident could open carry on the streets of downtown Charlotte (NC), for example. I know that because my instructor told me he did exactly that with a western rig. He had no options, short of risking having the gun stolen from the car. Walking around "naked" is not his first option in any case.

Mark13
December 8, 2004, 11:48 AM
I have relatives in NC, so I was excited to learn my CCW was valid there.

Unfortunately, CCW is NC is very different than FL.

NC:
Can't carry to dinner because, virtually every restaurant serves alchohol.
Have to reveal you are armed anytime you are questioned by a LEO.
Can't carry into commercial places marked no firearms. Does this have teeth?
Can't carry to the movies, fair ETC.
Gun in glove box is illegal.

FL:
Can't carry in a bar or bar area of a restaurant.
Don't have to reveal you are armed to a LEO.
If you are discovered carrying in a commercial place marked no firearms, you are obligated to leave immediately if asked. No teeth here.
Can't carry to organized, paying, sporting events.
Holstered gun in glove box is legal. Loaded, securely encased firearms in passenger area of vehicle legal.

Please tell me if I'm wrong on these.

SkyDaver
December 8, 2004, 02:27 PM
Model520fan,

There's no registration required (except possibly in Durham County, and that is really a screwed up mess) and firearms don't appear on personal property tax

Calhoun
December 8, 2004, 04:18 PM
Can't carry into commercial places marked no firearms. Does this have teeth?

If you carry into a place that is posted no CCW they can ask you to leave. If you do not leave they can call the police and have you trespassed. That's about it, according to my CCW Class.

Also, I don't think you have to inform a LEO if you are NOT carrying. However, if you are stopped, when they run your license they are going to see that you have a permit. It probably behoves you to tell them up front that you have a CHP (Concealed Handgun Permit in NC) but that you are not armed. That is, of course, if you are not armed. If you are carrying you do have to let them know. I don't really see why some people make a big deal out of this. If you are not doing something wrong they can't touch you.

Here is my disclaimer: I am not a lawyer, LEO, Govt. Employee, Senator, Judge, Clerk of Court, Supreme Being, dog catcher, etc. The information here has been gleaned from my CCW instructor (who was supposed to know what he is talking about), and from various other places (packing.org, and NC Gov. website, etc.). Verify facts for yourself before you go taunting Johnny Law.

Come on up to NC. See how you like it.

Peace out,
Calhoun

MisterG
December 8, 2004, 06:08 PM
All this sucks. I think it sucks we even have to worry about this. I'm teetering on North Or South carolina. Can't decide.

Waitone
December 8, 2004, 07:02 PM
Assume for the moment both states are equal wrt to CCH.

Spend some time researching comparative tax loads. On a state level NC is pricier however the economy is larger. All depends on what you do and what kind of enviroment in which you want to live. SC's government is conservative compared to the socialist paradise we are developing here in NC.

Mark13
December 8, 2004, 09:43 PM
I don't want to disclose that I am carrying to a LEO for two reasons

First, if he wants to he can ask to hold my pistol correct? It's not that I am hiding anything, but my holstered, loaded pistol isn't dangerous. My unholstered, loaded pistol being handled by a LEO is an opportunity for an AD.

Second, I don't want anyone to know I have a gun. Announcing that I have a gun may offend my liberal, anti-gun relatives, who are blissfully unaware that there are guns in their midst. Plus it would make it uncomfortable if I am staying at their house while visiting NC.

When visiting NC a while back, I said to my father in law (anti gun new england type doctor) that I can keep a gun in my glovebox in Florida, his eyes got really big and he asked if I had a gun in my car now. I quickly said a very straight-faced, sincere "of course not". Actually that trip I had two guns locked in my trunk, so technically I wasn't lying.

Fed168
December 8, 2004, 10:05 PM
If approached by LE you must state that you are carrying if you are. Failure to do so is an infraction, next offense is a misdemeanor.

We do have open carry, but we also have a statute for "going armed to the terror of the public". Things to keep in mind, upsetting the bliss ninnys may land one in hot water.

Zach S
December 9, 2004, 08:21 PM
I've never been disarmed, but I've only had to inform three or four times, none were traffic stops so that may go differently.

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