[Meow]

I've heard referances to "glock reliability issues" and "glock is nothing compared to old 1911" do they have problems?

[DeltaElite]

I have put 10k+ rounds through over half a dozen different Glocks with no malfunction.

I can't say the same for my Kimber or even my Delta Gold Cup. :(

YMMV

[Hkmp5sd]

This is one of those questions with no conclusive answer. Any gun can have reliability problems and they can be the result of something other than the gun itself.

It seems the Glock is one of those love or hate guns, with no common ground. I've put 25,000+ through my Glock 17 and it is completely reliable. It does not like non-Glock magazines. It does not like Corbon ammunition. But with everything else, it functions properly.

My 1911 is also picky about magazines and some brands of ammunition. But it is reliable with everything else.

[AK103K]

Eventually, no matter who the maker is, your going to have a problem gun, its inevitable. I've had a couple of Glocks, and even more 1911's, and have had trouble with both at one time or another. I'm just more comfortable with the 1911's, so thats what I carry.

[gbelleh]

Yes, Glocks can and do have problems. I just got a G36 a few weeks ago that had the recoil spring assembly fall apart on the 88th round fired. That's my personal experience, other's Glocks perform great for thousands of rounds.

Every gun maker has occasional problems, and Glock is not "perfection".

[Meow]

thank you all. arn't glocks used by most PD's in the US?

[Schuey2002]

Aren't glocks used by most PD's in the US?
Prrrrrrrrr ....Yeeee-up!:D

[synoptic]

I have heard the occassional story about someone getting a bad glock, but that once they sent it in and got it back it worked great. Just my .02

[Kevlarman]

Anything mechanical can and will fail eventually. Perhaps with all the 1911 variants in existence makes their problems seem huge compared to Glock.

[Bainx]

Well, Pilgrim, I tell ya what...the guy that sold me my Glock model 30 had nearly 10,000 rounds on his model 26 without cleaning, and no malfunctions so he claimed. I have no reason to doubt him after reading the Austrian military acceptance testing of a Glock.

[Quick...somebody give us the URL of the Austrian testing]

[care-less]

Glock has and continues to have some problems. What bothers me is the way they handle it. They refuse to recall, they call them factory upgrades! The worst part is that once aware of the problem, they continue to sell affected products, and leave it to the customer to "discover" the problem, contact them, and yes, then they will fix it. Terrible business management. I love the Glocks, or rather the concept of them, and have had three. two were good, one problem I will have to wait a few months for them to fix. Worst part is that theyk were aware my serial number was affected, and let it be sold anyway. That kind of attitude stinks. Steyr, or HK as a corp. don't act that way. Just my opinion. Go to Glock talk and check it out.

[DeltaElite]

Funny we dumped our HK USP 40's for Glock 22's.
Sadly, I can't carry my Glock 20, 10mm. :(
HK blamed everyone, but themselves for the malfunctions that the USP's had, so much for their customer service. ;)

Find another manufacturer that can make a gun as reliable as the Glock and I will buy it.
I am not brand loyal, I want what works.
My life is far more important than brand loyalty.

[Tecolote]

Everyone's experience will vary. Don't use what LE agencies issue most as the sole measure. Make sure it works for you. My buddy swears by his EG Mak even though no LE agency in the US issues them.:D

[esldude]

Well I have owned a dozen Glocks. No problems. Have seen
at leat two dozen other Glocks belonging to other people.
Have never seen any problems. Have owned one 1911, lots of
problems.

Have seen lots of 1911's, and seen jamming unless using hardball.

Now I hear about all these folks with fully reliable 1911's. I am
sure some exist. But the only one I have seen that was trouble
free feeding non-hardball was a Norinco copy of one. Have heard
of lots of people telling me theirs would shoot anything, and then
watched as they choked on non-hardball ammo.

Actual experience with something can be misleading when it only
includes a few examples. Or especially only one. But I have trouble believing those 1911's are in general anywhere near
as reliable as Glocks.

Glocks and Garands are two firearms that impress the heck out of me.

1911's and AR's are two firearms that impress me too. Only the
impression is not so favorable.

[Stevie-Ray]

I have only one Glock. Never wanted one til I started carrying. My 26 has been ultra-reliable though it has yet to fire 1000 rounds. I'm a Glock convert though, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another if it caught my fancy.

However my 1911 also is ultra-reliable, though I did some work on it. The work was for IPSC. Be that as it may, it spits out everything from hardball (boring) to personal defense hollowpoints to lead semi-wadcutters. Hasn't failed in over 10,000 rounds.

[Lone_Gunman]

I happen to love Glocks, own several, but am willing to admit that they can have problems, just like anything else mechanical.

There are a lot of outrageous claims made about Glocks that I find unbelievable.

"25,000 rounds with no malfunctions"

"I know 12 people with Glocks who have never had a malfunction"

"10,000 rounds with no cleaning, still works great"

All these are just not believable.

Either that, or I just have really bad luck with Glocks.

I owned a G20, which would fail to eject 1 out of every 30-40 rounds.

I owned a G19 which would not reliably feed hollowpoints.

[10-Ring]

Glocks have there share of problems just like every other manufacturer. That's why the have their warranty ;)

[Gary G23]

I agree with care-less. Even though none of my Glocks were affected by the "non-recall", I'm selling them anyway and getting Sigs and XD's.

[care-less]

GaryG23; Smart move, at least as far as Glock's 40's are concerned. forget the XD though. Slide rides on only one set of steel inserts in the middle of the frame; at the rear, the steel slide rides on the plastic frame. Doesn't seem to cool to me. Sig is good choice, so is Steyr ( a steel pistol encased in polymer; check it out) HK is also a superior choice.

[Rio Grande]

I've purchased 3 Glocks and shortly sold all 3 because 1) the trigger pull was disgusting, and 2) couldn't hit with them (blamed that on the trigger-pull). None of the three ever jammed.

Rather than upgrade the trigger I sold them because they just didn't have any "soul". Boxy, plastic feeling things.

I have two 1911's that are real shooters, but they both have target sights and trigger upgrades. When I shoot timed plates with them I use instinct more than aim - because a 1911 just feels and points great. They only jam after the dirty build-up of several hundred rounds of my semi-wadcutter reloads. I only dissasemble and clean them after four or five trips to the range.

I like to carry what I can hit with.

[Boats]

[andy dufrense]Don't you know kid? Every Glockster on the internet has 7,000,000 rounds downrange with no malfs and no cleaning.[/andy dufrense]*:rolleyes:




*Shameless Shawshank Redemption reference.

[denfoote]

Yup!! They sure do!! Take my beloved G36 as an example. I had the stock slide stop leaver changed out for the extended one. Gave me nothing but problems!! I then had it switched back to the stock part and guess what??? Problems persist!!
It's a good thing I now have a 1911 to act as back up!! (Bet you never in a million years would ever think 'ol denfoote would utter these words!!) :evil:

[JohnBT]

I dropped by General Glocking on Glock Talk earlier today for the first time in ages. They have threads on the frame replacement recall, sorry - I mean upgrades, with the list of serial numbers by model. Seems to be a little resentment that government agencies are getting theirs done first and then the general public. Then there's a thread on the G36 and why they have trouble feeding Corbon ammo.

I never knew.

John

[Newton]

The Glocks I have tried jammed frequently.

I'm not a Glock hater, as some seem to be because of it's unusual design, but for me at least, the issue of absolute Glock reliability is difficult to understand. People tell me that this it is caused by incorrect grip, inadequate cleaning, and/or lower pressure ammunition.

To cater to the whims of a specific pistol for it to function reliability seems to be a contradiction in terms.

Of all my other semi autos, only a Ruger .22LR has proved to be in any way unreliable.

Newton

[Lone_Gunman]

Newton quote:

"To cater to the whims of a specific pistol for it to function reliability seems to be a contradiction in terms."

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I assume you must not be a 1911 fan either, as there is an entire industry built up around making them functional and reliable.

[DeltaElite]

Wow, I must be a liar. :rolleyes:
I have put 10k+ through my Glocks and never, never had a malfunction.
I must be a pathological liar and delusional. :neener:

Sure Glocks have had some problems, so have every other gun out there.
I can only tell you my experiences, which have been wonderful to date.

[tex_n_cal]

Glocks are usually pretty reliable.

Perfect?:neener:

Their problems have been well documented.

Unless you buy a 1911 that has been "accurized" (made too tight) or is in a wierd caliber, they also are usually pretty reliable.

At last count, I have four 1911's that have never jammed, period. Only one of my seven I would have called unreliable, and that was easily fixed with adjustment of the extractor.

I did own a Glock 22 a few years ago. It was reliable, just inaccurate.