My G.I. prints like a shotgun


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JeffC
December 11, 2004, 05:49 PM
Got a question for the group here, I took my new Springfield G.I. model to the range today, and was dissapointed in its lack of accuracy. The groups looked more like shotgun patterns. Even when sandbagging and trying my hardest at 15yds it shot more than 6" patterns. I used Win white box, Magtech ball, and a 200gr. handload that works well in my other 1911s.

The clearances are excessive in my opinion. I wonder if I'm wasting my time bothering with a tighter bushing, because the barrel is riding the link and the hood is undersized.

The dimensions on this slide are:
Slide I.D. is .701
Bushing O.D. is .697

Bushing I.D. is .584
barrel O.D. is .5785

There is .014 fore and aft movement in the barrel hood fit, way too much right?

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JeffC
December 11, 2004, 06:24 PM
Uh-Oh.... I field stripped it again, just wiped down the barrel and inside of slide. Looks like the barrel is only touching the slide on the 3rd lug. The barrel hood is very scratched up for only having less than a hundred rounds thru it. I'm afraid the slide looks like it may begin to peen if I do nothing about this.

Jeff Timm
December 11, 2004, 06:29 PM
Advise you return to Springfield Soonest!

Geoff
Who begins to suspect Springfields QA department are it's customers. :what:

JeffC
December 11, 2004, 07:24 PM
Sadly, I'm getting good at writing letters to their service dept.

But, they do take care of you!

On the good side, the Loaded model they fixed up for me is a freak'in Tack Driver!!!!

1911Tuner
December 12, 2004, 06:29 AM
Howdy Jeffro mah fren,

From the sounds of it...the barrel is badly fitted. It's one of the few GI Springers that I've heard of like that, though. To date, I've handled about
15 of'em and have been impressed with the fit and lockup in all but one...
and it wasn't as bad as you're describing yours.

You can tighten it up at the front end, and it'll help some....but goin' by the other dimensions...it's not likely to make a big difference. The peening is at least partly due to the excessive horizontal play between barrel and slide.
When the round fires, the bullet engages the rifing and yanks the barrel forward while the recoil impetus hammers the slide backward...and the lugs get too much of a runnin' start at each other.

I'd say that this one is a candidate for the Geneseo Shuffle forthwith.

Jeff...With your luck, I wouldn't advise a trip to Vegas any time soon. :p

Dave Sample
December 12, 2004, 02:16 PM
"All things come to those who wait". JeffC knows you get what you pay for. My advice? Take it to the gunstore and trade it for something good.

JeffC
December 12, 2004, 10:04 PM
Oops, got it backwards :o it's the 1st lug...

Gosh, the Geneseo shuffle...again :scrutiny:

Tuners advice:
Jeff...With your luck, I wouldn't advise a trip to Vegas any time soon.
That's why I quit playin' poker ;)

Dave's advice: Take it to the gunstore and trade it for something good.
.....believe me, I'm not thru considering it.

Bill Z
December 12, 2004, 10:27 PM
The Springers are hit and miss unfortunately. I guess not just in the parts but in the fitting. Jeff, it really might no make a bad project gun if you want to play around with something, either that, or send it back to Springfield. We've got to face it guys, the Springers may not be on the bottom of the barrel, but they are damn close.

You get what you pay for,................. if your lucky.

1911Tuner
December 13, 2004, 03:42 AM
Bill Z said:

>The Springers are hit and miss unfortunately.<
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Noticed that too...but oddly enough, the entry-level GI pistols have been
surprisingly good on average...at least in the ones that I've seen so far.
The standard Mil-Specs and above seem to be the ones that are slippin' through the cracks for some reason. I have a couple of dealers in the area who have agreed to call me whenever a shipment of new GI models comes in, and will let me come tear'em down for inspection. I should have a pretty good database to report on by mid January or early Februrary. Since the GIs are hot sellers for these two, I should be able to look at 25 or 30 of'em by then.

Stand by for it...

JeffC
December 13, 2004, 05:57 AM
Bill Z, yes it would make a good project gun.

Still meditating on what to do...


"Bottom of the barrel"...LOL

stans
December 13, 2004, 06:16 AM
I'm sorry, but I am not in the habit of paying good money for something that is brand new and defective. I would send it back with a letter explaining the problem in detail and maybe even some targets. Companies need to fix their mistakes, not pass them on to the consumer.

JeffC
December 13, 2004, 08:30 PM
I made up my mind, I sent it back.

Guess I'll get it back in 4-6 weeks, I'll surely post and let you all know the outcome.

1911Tuner
December 13, 2004, 08:58 PM
Hmmm. That makes you two for two Jeff... :scrutiny: :what:

Forsooth! And here all this time I was under the impression that we got all the bad Springers here in North Cackalackey... :rolleyes:

JeffC
December 13, 2004, 09:56 PM
LOL... I definitely can pick 'em :D

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