rear sight may need a slight adjustment to the right.
March 2, 2003, 12:03 PM
If this happens with all of your guns I would find it impossible to believe every one of your sights are off in the same direction. It also appears to me that since your grouping is okay I would guess that it is something to do with you actualy moving the gun. It could be your finger placement on the trigger. If you put to much or to little it can cause the gun to move ever so slightly without you realy noticing it. It could also be some sort of flinch. Although usualy this causes shots low and left, not high. Although instruction would be the best bet, in the interim it might just help to have another person simply watch you shoot. They may see you do something that you didn't know you are doing.
March 2, 2003, 01:00 PM
Two things to try:
1. Use a 6 o'clock hold--aim directly below the spot where you want to hit by putting the top of the front sight directly below the target. See if that centers your group better.
2. What eye do you use to aim with? I'm right-handed, but left-eye dominant. When I use my left eye, I get groups like that. Try forcing yourself to aim w/ just the strong-side eye. A piece of tape on your weak-side shooting glasses will help here.
Try these before you look for a "hardware solution".
March 2, 2003, 01:16 PM
1. You might be milking your grip or pushing the gun to your left with your trigger finger. this is solved by dryfiring at a small 1/4" dot and watching your sights thru the whole stroke of the trigger. Try to keep your finger off of the frame of your gun on the inside of your trigger finger allowing just tip of your trigger finger or at most to the first joint to only touch the trigger and not anywhere else on the gun.
2. also you might be following your bullet strikes. The sceniario is you get a nice shot just left of the center then your next shot is aimed slightly at the previous shot moving it just left of the first shot.
lastly like my rifle instructor in the Marines said if you are getting good groups adjust your sights not your sight alignment to get the shots where you want them.
March 2, 2003, 01:38 PM
realmswalker, welcome to The High Road
Where do you shoot? I believe Sharpshooter's out in Torrance offers instruction formal and informal.
Never tried them, but LAX range sends out email notices of classes occasionally.
Have you tried shooting from a rest to see if your sights are off?
March 2, 2003, 04:36 PM
Thank you all for your help, I will try your tips and see if I can correct this.
Cal4d4 I shoot at the La Puente firing range, and a range in brea I forget the name at this time, only been once. I will check out torrance and LA, thanks for the tips.
March 2, 2003, 05:31 PM
This chart may help.
March 2, 2003, 06:32 PM
3Gun beat me to it.
Just dry fire 'til you're sick of it, then dry fire a little more, concentrating on keeping that fron sight right where you want it.
You'll center up ust fine.
March 2, 2003, 10:10 PM
l also use the sprtshooter.com correction chart. it rules
March 2, 2003, 10:18 PM
Took my step son and his buddy to range today for some tuition and practice ........ two points I make a lot (apart from safety) are ........ ABSOLUTE attention to sight picture .... ''level on top - equal in middle'' ...... and ..... focus on sights and NOT target . so much can go wrong here thru minor inattention .. the smallest deviation from perfect sight picture gives relatively large impact error.
Second is that all important trigger action ... ''slow squeeze'' etc ... and hopefully always that feeling of ''oh, the shot has gone''!!
Not saying here these are necessarily relevant but IMO they are VITAL.
March 3, 2003, 12:15 AM
Here's a little trick a instructor did with me. With your back turned (or in the next stall if it's empty) have someone else either load a empty mag or one with a round in it. The idea is that you don't know for sure untill you pull the trigger if the gun is going to fire. My problem was that I was jerking the trigger and most of my shots were going low-left. Have the person loading watch you pull the trigger but you probably will be able to see what you are doing yourself... I can dry fire all day and keep my sight picture but when it comes to live fire I would jerk or "stab" the trigger...
Hope this helps... it worked for me...
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