[Dionysusigma]

Vektor SP-2 (http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg30-e.htm)

Information about these is pretty slim... after running multiple searches on the net, all I could find out about these was what was said on Max Popenker's site, cut and pasted. If there're any reviews out there, I sure can't find them.

So, THR, what can you tell me 'bout 'em? I know that another model, the CP-1, was a massive failure due to its annoying habit of kBing all the time, but that's all. Any info whatsoever is appreciated.

[Dionysusigma]

*crickets chirping*








Anybody?

[wildehond]

Hi

I suppose you know that was manufactured in South Africa. They are based on the Beretta 92 with the same locking mechanism. The slide on the SP-2 and SP-1 (9mm version) was beefed up quite a bit from the Beretta slide. I have shot a few. They are very comfortable to shoot because of the extra weight. The trigger is a bit rough at the beginning but they wear in. They are meant to be service firearms so they are a bit big for CCW. I have not heard of any problems and the people at the local club that have them are very happy. I have found the grip quite comfortable compared to the Beretta 92 and also smaller. Does not have the 2x4 feel. I have tried to get one in the sport version, but licensing is a problem, but I am still trying. The slide is steel I think and the frame is alloy. The grip is a polymer that wraps around the whole 'handle' part of the frame. I think this also helps to tame the recoil. They have polygonal rifling that I think was pretty well done.

I would love the have one converted to 10mm. I am sure they are built to handle more than that.

wildehond

[denfoote]

Vektor: former subsidiary of the Dinel Corp, SA.
The division is now defunct over the CP-1 fiasco!!!
Mags and parts are going to become difficult to find.
Unless you are a collector of South African clones, I'd pass!!

[Ash]

It doesn't take standard Beretta Magazines? I would imagine parts and magazines would largely interchange between a 92 and the Vektor.

Ash

[Dionysusigma]

From what I understand, the SP-2 takes Beretta 96 mags; logically, the SP-1 would utilize 92FS mags. However, how many guns can you list that use S&W auto mags that aren't... well, S&W autos? (Kel-tec, Marlin Camp, etc.) Point is, just because the mags work doesn't necessarily mean that other parts will as well. But if they did, one would have a unique pistol capabl of both .40 and 9mm.

I have heard a story (Read: Take this with a grain of salt) that one owner accidently inserted a loaded 92 mag into his .40 SP-2 and it worked--fed, fired, and cycled... :uhoh: Not sure if he kept firing or what the long-term consequences were.

[wildehond]

If the claw of the extracter holds the round against the breach face the firing pin can detonate the round. That is when all goes well.

So it is possible, but VERY dangerous. I have heard of a 40 S&W going into a 45 ACP barrel. The real danger is that he whole cartridge can go down the barrel and you think there is a missfire then you cycle the handgun and the smaller sound gets pushed into the barrel and the next round detonates the one inside the barrel. That is the part where it goes boom!

wildehond

[Ash]

What I meant about parts working was that as I understand it, the Vektor is just a re-modeling of the Z88, which was their straight-up copy of the Beretta 92 (older model). As such, I would expect parts to be interchangeable between the various models. And, since Beretta does make a .40S&W in the 92 frame (the 96?) then it would make sense that the 40 parts might fit as well.

Now, this is conjecture I know, as I haven't read about compatibility. It could be a case of Tanfoglio versus CZ. BUT, it could also be Taurus versus Beretta.

I have wondered the same about the Llama M82, which is also a Beretta copy with a solid-topped slide, but uses the slide-mounted safety rather than frame-mounting of the Taurus, Vektor, or older Beretta 92's.

Ash

[wildehond]

The Vektor SP-1 and SP-2 are serious reworkings of the beretta theme. The The slide is closed except for the ejection port. and it is quite heavy compared to the Beretta. The grip is also quite different. I do not know how much the internals was changed from the Z88 to the SP-1 and SP-2. But I will not bet on the parts being interchangable. Maybe you can get more answers on the Beretta forum. I know that there are people there the own both the Berettas and Vektors.

Let us know if you find out.

wildehond