Lowest recoil in 9mm
8mman
December 14, 2004, 10:27 PM
Just curious you guys. Among all the 9mm autos you've shot which has the lowest felt recoil and/or muzzle flip?
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psyopspec
December 14, 2004, 11:40 PM
My experience with pistols is fairly standard, by no means great. But between Beretta 92, CZ-75 (I think it was a 75; a full size CZ model in 9mm that I borrowed at the range), Glock 17 & 19, and HK USP 9, I would go with the HK for lowest perceived recoil. YMMV.
chuckles
December 15, 2004, 12:00 AM
To me, the Beretta 92 has almost zero felt recoil. SIG 226 isn't bad either.
tc300mag1
December 15, 2004, 12:03 AM
Usp 9mm has about none and glock 17 i shot was pretty low..
i had oppsite experance with beretta 92 i thought recoil muzzle flip was excessive maybe it was becuse it was range gun but my subcompact xd 9 i was shooting same day with same ammo was recoiling less..
im sure it was the gun but thought it weird
mete
December 15, 2004, 12:04 AM
The delayed blowback of the HK P7 makes it like a 380, and the heavier one ,P7 M13 ,has the weight to soak up more .
sm
December 15, 2004, 12:12 AM
BHP
I'm probably not a good one to ask though. I was shocked and appalled when told there was another handgun that fired the 9mm. :p
Compared to Beretta 92, S&W 3913, Glocks 17, 26, and Keltec P-11.
I don't stray too far as you can tell.
Hypnogator
December 15, 2004, 12:22 AM
My Smith 5906 seems to have less felt recoil than most other 9s I've shot.
Worst were my Kel-Tec P-11 and a 1st Gen Smith 39 I once owned.
Black Majik
December 15, 2004, 01:04 AM
IMO, the Sig 226 9mm kicks quite a bit for a 9mm. Of course not a lot since its jus' a nine, but more than others because of the higher bore axis and the light weight aluminum alloy frame.
Of the ones I've shot, the lowest felt recoil was the Beretta 92FS. The gun is a lil' too big for the 9mm cartidge IMO, but it helps soak up the recoil.
robctwo
December 15, 2004, 01:11 AM
Sig 226 Stainless Stock
Black Majik
December 15, 2004, 01:28 AM
Hmm... Rob, not that you mention that...
I really wonder how the recoil would be on a P226ST.
natedog
December 15, 2004, 01:31 AM
Hmm...I'd probably say an MP5-K PDW. Didn't recoil much more than a .22.
MrTuffPaws
December 15, 2004, 03:14 AM
In my findings, I found the G19 to have less recoil than my XD9.
chevrofreak
December 15, 2004, 05:09 AM
CZ P-01
I shot one back to back against a 75b and the P01 had noticeably less muzle flip, and to me that meant less felt recoil.
farscott
December 15, 2004, 06:25 AM
A 1911 in 9x19 or the S&W M952-2. Both are very pleasant to shoot due to heavy steel frames and slides and relatively low bore axes referenced to hand position. Both also use rather light recoil springs which add to the "soft shooting" feel.
denfoote
December 15, 2004, 06:36 AM
The Walther P5 has minimal felt recoil followed by the above mentioned BHP!!
AndABeer
December 15, 2004, 07:43 AM
1911
hillst1
December 15, 2004, 07:45 AM
This pistol has a low bore axis and is a pleasure to shoot.
nero45acp
December 15, 2004, 08:54 AM
1911 Government Model 9mm
SIG P226-ST
Beretta 92 Steel I
S&W 5906TSW
S&W 952
Steyr M9
nero
KMKeller
December 15, 2004, 10:01 AM
I compete with the Sig P226ST, and it's a beauty in the felt recoil department. With a 124 grain bullet over 3.8 grains of titegroup (match load), it barely moves at all.
Satch
December 15, 2004, 12:05 PM
I have a Ruger p89 and a S&W Sig9G. The Ruger jumps all over the place,I think it might be bcause of the large slide it has. The S&W has about half the recall jump of the two.
Ankeny
December 15, 2004, 02:31 PM
Of the dozens of 9mm pistols I have shot, the P7M8 had the lowest percieved recoil. I regret selling it. The low felt recoil comes from the blowback action in combination with the extremely low bore axis.
shoobe01
December 15, 2004, 02:45 PM
HK94.
Then, P7 or anything heavy. Also notable was a 9mm commander. Felt like shooting a .380 for some reason. Nice gun too:
http://shoobe01.homeunix.net/~shoobe01/gun_photos/607.html
Sactown
December 15, 2004, 02:57 PM
My Springfield 1911 in 9mm feels like my .22 Beretta 70s. I put a Smith and Alexander magwell on the 1911 as well so that added more weight. People are shocked it's a 9mm.
halvey
December 15, 2004, 03:09 PM
Para Ordnance 9mm.
oweno
December 15, 2004, 03:10 PM
My Steyr GB has a very, very mild perceived recoil - especially the first round when you still have 18 left in the magazine.
The "gas brake" action is sort of like a recoil buffer.
Owen
rauchman
December 15, 2004, 04:21 PM
I have to go with either the Beretta 92 or the USP fullsize.
riverdog
December 15, 2004, 04:24 PM
Glock G-17 with Tungsten guide rod.
Boats
December 15, 2004, 06:34 PM
After shooting my .357 Mag and .45ACP commander sized pistols, My XD-9 feels like a Ruger Bearcat. The sights are back on target so relatively quickly that I don't even notice that it is appreciably recoiling. That may be a quirk of the polymer frame, but I do notice that it shifts a little more upward as the mag empties and unbalances the weight of the piece, which is a fairly strange phenomenon to me, but not alarming in any way.
Recoil in the duty rounds is pretty subjective when you get to fire the odd .454 or larger wheelgun. I really want that new Ruger .45 Colt/.454 snubbie Super Redhawk because I seem to be relatively recoil insensitive.
mons meg
December 15, 2004, 07:08 PM
Steyr M9
Second that. All those who have not shot an M9 will re-evaluate their standard of "muzzle-flippiness" after they do. ;)
Edit: Naturally, I mean compared to pistols of a similar "build", not your 4 pound brick that happens to be chambered in 9mm... :D
sigma 40ve
December 15, 2004, 07:13 PM
Arcus 94 IMO
I have Glock, SA, Steyr, Walther, Star and the Arcus. The Arcus has less felt recoil IMO than any of the 9's that I own.
tbeb
December 15, 2004, 09:12 PM
I haven't shot one but I'm guessing a Glock 17C, which has a ported barrel, has low muzzle flip. 9mm is kind of snappy so you need a pistol that is muzzle heavy or compensated.
JohnKSa
December 15, 2004, 10:16 PM
My wife took my USP after deciding that it had less felt recoil than any of my other 9mms... :(
robertbank
December 16, 2004, 09:09 AM
Have a Browning coming but of my two now the STI Trojan in the 1911 format the recoil seems to be significantly lighter than my CZ85. This is due to the weight of the Trojan. Hardly moves! Like them both but the Trojan tigger is pretty hard to beat. Breaks at around four pounds with no creep and a quick reset.
Island Beretta
December 16, 2004, 10:56 AM
beretta 92 by far..
Berg01
December 16, 2004, 12:18 PM
My P228 isn't bad, but after about 5K rounds, I'm used to it. A lot of it depends on the ammo you are using. The Glock 17 shooting most of the standard ball ammo loads isn't bad.
Mute
December 16, 2004, 12:39 PM
Beretta 92. The recoil comes almost straight back. No muzzle flip. And the recoil is very mild. Feels almost like shooting .38 specials out of a 6" Colt Python.
wanderinwalker
December 16, 2004, 01:27 PM
I think the Glock 17 has the least percieved recoil for me of all of the 9mm pistols I've fired, although I had a chance to fire a Walther P-88 and that didn't seem too bad either. Least percieved recoil overall shooting a 9mm was probably an Uzi. It seemed easier to keep the Uzi on target than an MP-5. Could be a stock-fit/cyclic-rate issue there though.
Ankeny
December 16, 2004, 02:11 PM
I had forgotten all about my 19C. The 19C is a pussy cat, fast and flat. Next on the list is the P7M8.
lycanthrope
December 16, 2004, 04:19 PM
STI Edge with heavy dustcover and tungsten guiderod followed by a full size 1911.
edefonzo
December 17, 2004, 12:28 AM
CZ 75B in 9mm.
gvass
December 17, 2004, 07:38 AM
SIG P226 X-5.
1,35 kg solid German stainless steel. Unloaded. Loaded with 19+1 rds heavier than Dirty Harry's .44 Mag. 8 3/8":-))
Recoil like a .22 LR
cratz2
December 17, 2004, 12:43 PM
Hrmm... Probably the Glock 17 and Steyr M9. I've never experienced a full size or mid size 9mm that really offended me with its recoil though...
My Springfield Stainless Target Loaded 9mm actually surprised me with how much recoil it had. With the lesser recoil spring, it just isn't reduced from lightweight 45 loads as much as I thought it would be. I loved it however.
Are you really interested in the least recoil or the quickest shooting? Even if the G17 has the least recoil, I still think a nicerly adjusted 1911 in 9mm would probably be the quickest shooting 9mm. I really like CZs and BHPs. And the 9mm 1911. If I had to spend a lot of time shooting a 9mm it would be either a CZ, BHP (with worked trigger) or a 1911.
Lobotomy Boy
December 17, 2004, 01:00 PM
Recoil is not even something I think about when shooting a 9mm. I only have one 9mm--all my other handguns are of larger caliber. After shooting off 50 rounds of .357 through my Taurus 605, my CZ75B feels like shooting spitballs through a straw.
robertbank
December 18, 2004, 10:27 PM
My Trojan hardly moves while my CZ85 jumps.
R.H. Lee
December 18, 2004, 10:32 PM
My CZ75B doesn't recoil enough to even worry about. The recoil from my Beretta 92 was neglible, but the pistol was too big, so I traded it for a 1911.
LiquidTension
December 18, 2004, 11:28 PM
P7m8
10-Ring
December 19, 2004, 12:48 AM
For me, I'd have to say the HK USP 9 ;)
Big Mike
December 19, 2004, 01:23 AM
Beretta 92 Brigadier, S&W 5906
71Commander
December 19, 2004, 07:23 AM
My SA 1911A1 Gov't. like shooting a .22.
Tman
December 19, 2004, 08:25 AM
for me, 9mm pistolas USPc, P7M8, and STI Trojan, I would say felt recoil is the least in the full sized Trojan.
incursion
December 19, 2004, 11:25 AM
P7 series, BHP with rubber grips, Steyr M9, Beretta 92FS, 1911
Mike Kerr
December 19, 2004, 05:19 PM
Para Ordnance 18.9 Ltd - Plenty of weight - double stack widebody grip- you feel very little. Next is 9mm in a 1911 gov't model. Plenty of weight- you feel very little. CZ 75B SA- The Single action 75B has a heavy slide - minimal recoil or flip.
Regards,
:) :) :)
Mastrogiacomo
December 19, 2004, 05:48 PM
Glock 19 isn't much but the Berettas are the best due to the weight of the gun.
greg531mi
December 19, 2004, 06:51 PM
Of all the 9mm's I fired, my Star Model 30, at 40 ounces, with a 5 inch barrel, all steel, has the lowest felt recoil. The heavier the gun, the less recoil. Buy the way, an all steel gun will probally last 50,000 rounds, or a couple life times of steady use.
NEtracker
December 19, 2004, 11:48 PM
BHP for me.
Walther P99 flips noticeably more, but very manageable for double-taps.
SapperLeader
December 20, 2004, 04:06 PM
My Government 1911 9mm and my BHP both have little recoil and muzzle flip. Any steel 9mm should have little recoil particulary with standard pressure laods.
albanian
December 20, 2004, 05:08 PM
I am a 9mm junky so I have shot quite a few of them. From what I can tell, the Ruger P-89 had the least. The Beretta 92fs and Ruger P-95 don't have much recoil either. I had a FM Hi Power with a Detective slide that kicked more than any 9mm I can think of. It kicked more than my Kahr K-9 that is about half the size and weight. :what:
I can't say that any full sized 9mm is going to have much recoil. Glocks tend to soak up recoil very well but I have not shot one in 9mm yet.
Peter M. Eick
December 20, 2004, 07:02 PM
Sig 210 by far.
The slide is quite heavy and the frame is not very light either. Also the bore axis is pretty low. With mild target loads you have to wonder if the case is going to eject out. This is especially true with the 210-5 heavy frame over the 210-6 light frame.
QB
December 20, 2004, 09:25 PM
My P226 Sport Stock is the softest shooting 9mm I have....softer shooting than my P210-6 heavy frame (my opinion only of course). My S&W 952-2 iand CZ Champion (compensated) are also soft shooting 9mms.
Pointman1776
December 23, 2004, 02:30 PM
Bottom line - perceived recoil is primarily the combination of:
1. muzzle weight / material (weight block, longer barrel, stainless vs. steel, etc.)
2. frame material and length (again, with the CG centered closer the muzzle)
3. recoil springs
4. ammo power
Lowest PR I've experienced is with a Sig P210 extended barrel, followed by Sig P226 Sport with the weight block, followed by a Sig P226 ST, all with after-market recoil springs and with 115gr ball.
Northslope Nimrod
December 23, 2004, 03:13 PM
Of those I've tried....BHP.....CZ75.....1911.
I hear good things about the Beretta & Taurus 92's.
Brass Balls
December 24, 2004, 12:09 AM
The 41 ounce S&W Performance Center 952 is a very soft shooter with standard pressure 9mm. Great gun and very accurate with a sweet single action trigger.
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