Keep Firearm Ownership Secret?


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andy
March 2, 2003, 08:32 PM
Do you refrain from telling others that you own firearms? You know what I mean. You worry your coworkers might not understand or that new acquaintance might be put off if you say anything. When applying for a job you don't mention it under the heading of "Hobbies". Then there is always the worry that some bad guy will hear of it and decide your home would make a nice burglary target. How discrete are you about owning guns?

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JMLV
March 2, 2003, 08:39 PM
I will argue or discuss RKBA anywhere anytime. I also mention the fact I love GIANT dogs and always keep at least 2 over 100 lb. Rarely list my inventory but do admit to owning firearms for defence and competition. (I have in the past shot in IHMSA, SASS, IDPA, IPSC, bowling pin shoots, 22 IHMSA, and the odd lewis match or two. )

P95Carry
March 2, 2003, 08:42 PM
Hmmm...... ''discrete'' ...... yeah I am discrete, in as much as i don't go around showing what I have or even talkin about it much ... at least not with people i don't know. Friends, family . different matter.

I carry .. but as it is CCW . again, no one usually knows.

I think the thing is .. do we ''advertize''? ... and I don't. Neither tho am I shy at bein seen walkin with a rifle .. this is a good hunting area.

Much is down to what you feel ''suitable'' for your A/O ............ so as to not crank up liberal anti's unnecessarily .... tho having said that ... there is part of me that feels a sorta ''F**k you'' approach, in as much as this is my right!!

The robbery deal is a relevant one .... and so i think adequate gun security matters .... plus, and in my case .. there is rarely an empty house, as i work from home. And anyone would also realize I'd expect that this is also an armed house. NOT wise to consider forced entry. Add to that some good neighbors ... and it ain't too bad.

So much will dpend where you live .. what state and what area.

GoldenLoki
March 2, 2003, 09:09 PM
Do you refrain from telling others that you own firearms?

No. I'm always trying to convert others to "our" side. We need all the friends we can get.


Elements I DO try to keep quiet:
That I carry
Where I live
Where I keep my guns (not same place as where I live, except for a few)

GL

P95Carry
March 2, 2003, 09:12 PM
GL .. I agree and makes me want to add a small rider to what I said above.

I too am always out to ..convert'' ... very good point and laudable .. we should all do this. This is not in itself of course actually advertizing your addy, or guns details or location .... and those points I certainly agree are best kept a tad quiet!:)

burrhead
March 2, 2003, 09:15 PM
Around these parts, telling folks you own a gun is akin to telling them you have a pickup truck. No one would care. ;) YMMV

voilsb
March 2, 2003, 09:26 PM
I don't advertise my gun ownership, and usually don't talk about it with friends, but if the topic of guns comes up in a conversation I'll be all over it. Also, if I'm going shooting soon, I tend to invite people who have never gone with me before, and some of them never knew I had any guns.

Then there is always the worry that some bad guy will hear of it and decide your home would make a nice burglary target. Train of thought: "Hmm, I'll rob the place where the owner will *SHOOT ME* rather than the defenseless place down the street"

bad_dad_brad
March 2, 2003, 09:40 PM
Only with close friends and family (and my fellow bros/sis on THR).

Standing Wolf
March 2, 2003, 09:45 PM
Color me loud and proud! I can't imagine ever wanting to feel secretive about exercising my Second Amendment civil rights.

Dorrin79
March 2, 2003, 09:46 PM
I don't start conversations about guns, but I'll always jump in if someone else does.

Don't advertise, don't hide it.

Of course, I'm an introvert, so you could say the same about every other aspect of my life.

FPrice
March 2, 2003, 09:49 PM
I am by nature quiet and reserved. I don't discuss my firearms ownership with anyone I don't know. I may discuss the RKBA and other political issues, but I seldom go into personal issues without a good reason.

12.7x99mm
March 2, 2003, 09:57 PM
Not to mention being a target of theft. Yes

55645
March 2, 2003, 10:03 PM
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AR-10
March 2, 2003, 10:34 PM
Talking about owning and shooting firearms seems natural to me. I don't go into detail about how many I own or how they are secured, as that is personal.

Beav
March 2, 2003, 10:42 PM
Pretty open about it. All my co-workers know. A few of them are gun nuts as well. I've been to the range with a few of them and other have expressed interest. The only problem most of them see is the fact that I'm obsessed.

:D

Unisaw
March 2, 2003, 10:42 PM
I don't advertise my interest in firearms nor do I try to hide it. I have taken several co-workers shooting -- it's really fun to provide their first exposure to handguns -- but I never let others know that I have a CHP and carry.

enichols
March 2, 2003, 10:58 PM
I'm not too vocal about it, but when people ask me what hobbies and interests I have I'm not afraid to tell them that I'm a shooter.

Marshall
March 2, 2003, 11:02 PM
Pssst. I have some but it's a secret so, don't tell anyone, OK?


:neener:

NapAttack
March 2, 2003, 11:06 PM
I'm with burrhead, I think in Georgia you'd be considered odd indeed if you didn't at least own a shotgun.

When I was in college in NE Ga. a few years back one of the profs hosted a party for his class. He had a place out in the country where we could shoot off the back porch. The kids that came started pulling out their artillery. I was seriously undergunned at the time. All I had was my little Beretta .32 with me. The college had a nice name for old farts like me going back to college, called us "non-traditional" students.

I teach classes at the local technical college and sometimes we get to talking about guns. I'll talk ownership and shooting and all but when they asked me how many I own I told them I couldn't really remember, last time I counted it was over 20.

firestar
March 2, 2003, 11:10 PM
I know what you mean. I wish I didn't have to hide it but that is the world we live in.

I recently had a job interview and they asked the hobby question and I couldn't think of anything other than guns and shooting. I was stumped because I didn't want to look like a nut. I finally came up with some other hobbies but shooting and guns are the only thing I really am into right now.

CZ-75
March 2, 2003, 11:59 PM
I only talk about it to those who give me the secret handshake.

I think that most burglaries of gun owners start with talking too much to casual acquaintances, like cow-orkers.

andy
March 3, 2003, 12:17 AM
I understand CZ-75, I have trouble with cow-orkers too. ;)

samualt
March 3, 2003, 05:17 AM
I don't mention it to anyone unless they are a friend and a bit gun-nutty also. Sometimes I might ask someone if they hunt or something...to see if they are friend material, LOL. :D

Kahr carrier
March 3, 2003, 05:28 AM
I dont discuss owning guns with strangers .Unfortunately most of my coworkers even the Anti ones know that I own quite a few. I really dont like to advertise as I dont want to get robbed and the Prk isnt the greatest place to own firearms.:(

Captain Bligh
March 3, 2003, 06:38 AM
I generally get accepting reactions to saying that I enjoy "shooting sports." I think the tag "sports" softens any potential concern.

However, I've noticed I am much more likely to get an arched eyebrow or some other sign of disapproval if I say, "I hunt" or "I went hunting." Hunting has become very non PC in some places. Funny, how no one minds if you slowly suffocate a fish by pulling in from it's home with a barbed hook, but God forbid you should disptach game more quickly with a firearm.

RJ

jmbg29
March 3, 2003, 06:44 AM
Nope.

Diesle
March 3, 2003, 08:59 AM
The people 'around' me are informed on a need to know. Most people dont need to know.


Diesle

556A2
March 3, 2003, 10:22 AM
All my friends know that I have guns and promote RKBA, only my real close friends know how many I have though. As far as casual social converations I don't really bring it up unless someone gets on the subject.

anchored
March 3, 2003, 10:26 AM
Around here, I'd be more likely to hide the fact I didn't have guns. But at home, I don't display them anywhere within sight of the windows, since the threat of being an armed victim doesn't work if I'm not home, and I'd rather not tempt anyone.

BerettaNut92
March 3, 2003, 11:43 AM
No.

Some friends never suspected I shot, and having no other shooter friends, am their only chance to hit the range.

There would be at least a two dozen more gun-ignorant people out there if I kept it a secret.

45R
March 3, 2003, 11:49 AM
No
I dont bother keeping my hobbies a secret. All my co-workers know that I shoot and play with sharp objects. I wouldnt go around telling the whole neighborhood that I shoot. I'm fortunate that my co-workers arent sheeple. Like Skunk I've taken many people out shooting. Its a good way to de-sheeple antis. :)

riverdog
March 3, 2003, 12:08 PM
The guys at work know, but they're all ex-military and are in no way anti.
My neighbors here probably don't know. The UPS guy is much more in the know just from ammo deliveries. Neighbors in my out of CA home know but they're all gun-owners too so it works out.
Family knows.

TallPine
March 3, 2003, 12:48 PM
Around here, I'd be more likely to hide the fact I didn't have guns.

Yeah, same way around here :D

"You don't hunt? Whatsa matter with you ... you some kind of [very uncomplimentary non-PC term] ?

AmericanFreeBird
March 3, 2003, 01:45 PM
As I make no big secret of it. Though, I don't announce it over the intercom system either. Company policy forbids firearms in the building, I carry inside anyway. I don't make a big deal of that but if the time comes and some nut case breaks in and starts what he/she thinks is another easy massacre they've got an unpleasant surprise waiting for them.

I discuss RKBA with my co-workers and have converted two or three of them to the 2A cause. I guess you'd say I'm outspoken.

Tamara
March 3, 2003, 02:05 PM
Some folks may have figured it out from the large assortment of gun-manufacturer-labeled tee shirts, ball caps, fleece vests and et cetera that I wear. Or maybe the plastic Glock on my keychain. Or maybe the fact that I'm always ready to explain when someone asks what my "Molon Labe" hat means. Or the various gun magazines or books I am frequently seen reading in public.

I enjoy guns. This is completely moral, ethical, and, indeed, Constitutionally-protected on the same level as free speech or going to church. I will be damned if I am going to treat it like a kiddie-porn habit. If we don't prosyletize; if we don't spread the good word; if we don't comport ourselves as proud-but-polite ambassadors of our "faith", then we will lose.

Byron Quick
March 3, 2003, 02:08 PM
My co-workers know...including the few anti's. The neighbors know. The cops know-sheriff signed off on my Uzi submachine gun. The family knows. If you're my friend you know for I don't consort with anti's. When I work overtime, the other nurses comment, "Byron's buying guns again." The small rural hospital where I work has no real security. The night shift's emergency plan is basically: Keep Byron's vehicle between you and the threat.


Burglaries are way down in this part of Georgia. Might have something to do with the law that was passed a couple of sessions ago: If you forcibly enter a residence and you are not a resident of that home, lethal force can be used against you to prevent you from committing a felony...whether you are armed has no bearing.

ball3006
March 3, 2003, 02:43 PM
I don't advertise that I have guns, no bumper stickers, t shirts in public, load up guns into the truck in front of the house....My boss is one of my shooting buds so shooting gets talked about at work but everyone in the small office is cool. safes are bolted to the floor and to each other so a big hand truck can't be used to move one plus the door to the room is locked at all times. I have planted bushes around my parking area by the garage so the neighbors can't see in the garage where my workbench and loading equipment are. My garage windows are painted white too so noone can see in. Monitored house alarm too....chris3

kmays
March 3, 2003, 05:03 PM
I'm sure those unfortunate folks in Maryland whose neighbors ratted them out to the police during the Beltway sniper incident kind of regret letting them know about it.

The Montgomery County police are now investigating these gun owners to determine if any of them have "illegally owned" guns. They are even going so far as to train dogs to sniff out gun oils, etc.

Scary times, at least in MD.

MikeK
March 3, 2003, 05:35 PM
I'm proud of it. Often wear gun t-shirts in warmer weather and read gun magazines/books in public. My mother goes to Johns Hopkins for her eyes. Wore an NRA t-shirt with the 'armed with pride' logo. One nurse really liked it. On another visit I was reading Lott's book More Guns Less Crime - the doctor looked at the cover then looked at me like I was a little odd.

I am from Montgomery County MD, and yes things are bad all over the state.

I don't advertise the number I own (never enough).

G-Raptor
March 3, 2003, 10:58 PM
I own guns and I don't hunt. I'm not embarassed to say so. I don't wear "gun" shirts or put stickers on my car. I occassionally wear my IDPA cap.

In Illinois, you have to have a FOID anyway. Since the state already knows I own a gun why shouldn't anyone else?

I think its a good thing that people see that all gun owners aren't the "sweaty, toothless, rednecks" and "criminals" the Brady bunch claims they are.

Double Naught Spy
March 3, 2003, 11:14 PM
I am selective in who I tell. I figure some folks really don't need to know and I simply don't want to be involved in a debate with some of the others.

Funny though, if I mention that I like to shoot skeet occasionally or that I have competed in handgun steel competition, that is usually okay, but if there is going to be trouble, it is when someone learns I legally carry for self protection. Things like shooting targets, competing, or even hunting is often seen as being fine, but if you think you need a gun for self protection, then you must be some sort of gun nut militia type person who is paranoid. I still have not figured that out.

Mastrogiacomo
March 3, 2003, 11:26 PM
I brag about it to friends and classmates. However, my parents don't know I own one...umm...I'm mean three.:evil:

andy
March 4, 2003, 11:59 PM
It would appear most people responding to this thread use at least some discretion in letting others know they own firearms. The main reason being to avoid theft of said firearms. Good idea. I also find it very heartening to see many of you actively try to bring others into the shooting fraternity. If anything saves the 2nd Amendment this will be it.

coonan357
March 5, 2003, 01:14 AM
a few people know that I am an enthusist ( I you use the word Gun nut around me I will give you a verbal lashing ) as my neighbors knowI shoot as my Leo friends picked me up in the company car and they ( neighbors) saw me load my Evil black rifle cases (which one contained a 10/22 the other was a 110 year old lebel )and my range bags into the trunk of the car and I got into the FRONT seat of the cruiser . and most of the people I used to work with used to see me reading a gunsmithing book or gun rag , I had some people I used to work with think that I would go postal on them .. :fire: I actually invited them to the range and had them meet my Freinds , changed there attitude about me .Now my uncle introduces me as a gun nut, (verbally lashed at and corrected several times ) I often have been asked why I collect , and later if I teach .. after the correction has been made . I have no problem with people knowing , just the way they label me .

Blackhawk
March 5, 2003, 12:18 PM
I don't even tell people I wear skivvies or own a car. They can assume what they want.

Matter of fact, if somebody said to me, "I'm wearing underwear," I'd think they were really weird.... :what:

FPrice
March 6, 2003, 08:52 PM
"Matter of fact, if somebody said to me, "I'm wearing underwear," I'd think they were really weird.... "

I am tempted to ask what you would think is someone told they weren't wearing any underwear?

2nd Amendment
March 6, 2003, 09:22 PM
It's a small town and I've been here a looong time. Pretty much anyone who knows or knows of me knows I'm a shooter. Very few know *what* I own but the specifics aren't anyones business.

P95Carry
March 6, 2003, 10:01 PM
2nd ....... totally off topic but gotta say ... only just really taken stock of your sig ... it is DAMN funny!!!:D

Reminded me of the chicken lookin at the farmer's wife thru the window, watchin her make scrambled egg ... and saying... ''Sheesh, thah goes mah crazy mixed up kid.'' :p

JohnBT
March 6, 2003, 11:20 PM
I'm the very soul of discretion.

Well, not really. I just don't flaunt 'em coming and going to the car.

John

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