[Bandit01]

Why do so many people hate Glocks?
I have a G20 (10mm) and I think that it's perfect, although it is pretty large.

[charby]

I don't hate Glocks, I just prefer my pistols to have hammers on the them. I also like some sort of external safety, such as the decocker or a cross bolt safety. I know the best safety is the grey and white matter between your ears.

If Glock came out with a cross bolt safety in front of or behind the trigger I think I'd buy one.

charby

[SouthpawShootr]

I love 'em. I have 9. I also have a large number of 1911 pattern guns, as well as quite a few S&W 3rd Generation autos. My favorites are my Glocks, but I'm not getting rid of any of my other brands anytime soon.

There's alot of "my gun is better than your gun" nonsense going around and that's probably the cause of most of the animosity towards Glocks.

[Black Majik]

I can list a bunch of reasons why Glocks dont appeal to a lot of people.

1) The Trigger: Its spongy, mushy and requires a lot of practice to excel with it
2) Its Ugly. Self Explanatory
3) Weird Grip angle. For many I've read that Glocks either point too high or too low. There are other options out there that cure this problem
4) Polymer frame: 1911 affacionados prefer all steel. Though people do warm up to it.
5) Finger Grooves: To some it just doesn't fit.

Now I can also name a bunch of reasons why peope love Glocks. But I wont. :)

[NavajoNPaleFace]

I dislike Glocks.

My reasons have to do with their reliability (or lack, thereof) in the early 70s when I had to carry one.

From those terribly bad experiences I vowed to never own one. Sort of like the early Vietnam M-16s and their reasons not to even look at one.

[DelayedReaction]

I'm thinking of getting one, but the finger grooves make it impossible for me to comfortably hold. The trigger is also a lot less pleasant than my 1911.

[another okie]

"My reasons have to do with their reliability (or lack, thereof) in the early 70s when I had to carry one."

Perhaps you've confused Glocks with something else, such as the early S & W semiautos. The first Glock was designed in 1982.

[SmershAgent]

I like them a lot. The only grievance of those listed so far that I can relate to is the odd trigger, which I got used to after some practice. It's a matter of personal preference, of course, and I don't begrudge those of us who don't care for them.

[ggamyang]

quote "My reasons have to do with their reliability (or lack, thereof) in the early 70s when I had to carry one."

What glock did you carry in early 70s........? a Plastic shower curtain rod?
:neener:

Sorry, I couldn't resist..... :evil:

[TFH]

Howdy

I dont hate Glocks I have A 17 And will soon have A 23 but I do hate win
some jerk at the range is goofing on my 1911 and telling me I should throw
it in the trash and get me A glock cus they dont jam or break :confused:


Todd :)

[JL2152]

I like the sub-compact glocks. The larger ones do have an odd grip angle. And I do prefer an all metal gun it just feels like I am holding something.

[jem375]

Of course you could ask the same question to glockaholics....they run down other makes of handguns all the time...

[Bandit01]

When I first got into shooting and I was looking to purchase my first gun, the person at the range was showing me some Glocks. The conversation went like this:
Sales Person: Here are some nice 9MM Glocks

Me: Oh no not a glock

Sales Person: Why, what's wrong with Glocks

Me: I heard that they're not reliable and just not good guns

Sales Person: Really, do you realize that the police force here and in a lot of areas use Glocks? Specifically, what's not good about them

Me: Uh, I dunno, they're ugly

God what a horses ass I was. I'll admit, they're weird looking pistols and are very ugly but dang it, I love my G20. I will never give it up.

[Rockstar]

Many people who don't like Glocks don't like them because "of their lack of reliability when I carried them in the 70's." In other words, they've never spent any trigger time with a Glock. :)

It's a lot easier to improve a Glock's trigger than it is to get a 10mm 1911 that holds 15 rounds in a flush-fitting magazine to hold up after 100,000 rounds or so. :)

[Pointman1776]

Bottom line - a gun is simply a tool.

So the questions is, "What's the job?" Use the right tool for the right job.

Also use the right tool for **YOU**.

And, for gosh's sake, take the thing out for a test drive. If you can, locate a rental range or a shooting club or a friend who has what you're interested in and try it out.

Be honest. Did it meet your expectations? Don't listen to how well it worked or didn't work for somebody else...what were YOUR shot group results? Did it feel "just right?" Did it point the way you expected? Did you enjoy the trigger feel? How was the perceived recoil? How easy is it to take down? How clean (or lack thereof) do you like to keep your guns? Do you feel the price is worth the results (value)? And, most importantly, did it bring a big ol' grin to your mug?

At my club, we have several stock-Glock guys and gals who can, and regularly do, shoot the pants off a lot of other custom race gun owners. Also consider what people like Dave Sevigny can do with a Glock.

All that being said, I can't stand Glocks, personally. I never feel comfortable holding them, pointing them, shooting them, etc. Just not my preference. Glocks don't feel natural to my hand. But funny enough, I can do great things with an XD. Again, no slight to Glocks, just my personal preference and what seems to work best for me, my style, my physio-mechanics and ergonomics, etc.

I want to focus on my target and the enjoyment of pressing the trigger each time and the satisfaction of a tight group rather than focusing on overcoming my personal hang-ups with a Glock just to hit the side of a barn. That's just too much darn work and not enough return for me.

You're the one who has to live with the gun. Be safe. Have fun!

[Warner]

Most of the above reasons, plus they have no "heart and soul" feel to them.

My kid's Daisy feels better.

[GEM]

Go to an IDPA match and see how many people hate Glocks. Watch the 1911s jam!!

I took LFI - 1 with Preacherman, and IIRC the strong majority of guns were Glocks. I recall another class with Steve Moses and all the students had Glocks.

So I went into the Hill Country with friends. It's time to plink. 1911 with National Match blah, blah - jam. Browning BDM - jams. Sigma - jams. Very Expensive Kimber - jams.

My Glock - bang, bang, bang, ...

As far as no soul - that's what my SA revolvers are for.

[danbh]

Have a Glock 21 that I carry at times. nice and big! I also carry a 8045 Beretta. the Glock is great!!

As someone stated it's what's good for you. There are a number of great pistols tht I just don't like the feel of, so their not any good to me....

It's personal taste....................

[GLOCKT]

Some people just live and die by the Volkswagon.
When they try to upgrade to the BMW the fit just isn't there.
So they complain about price and fit and finish,and trade down for that Volkswagon.I'll keep the Beemer!

[..]

Folks that hate Glocks usually have never shot one, beleive what they've been told by folks that are jealous of them or gun stores that want to push higher priced autos.

Some folks just have to bash #1. Last I heard about %60+ of LE Agencies carry Glock.

[..]

Tools to work on a 1911

[..]

sig tools

[..]

What you need to completely detail strip a Glock

[Edmond]

I don't understand the Glock issues either. I have one Glock right now and previously had a 9mm that I recently sold. Didn't sell it because I didn't like it. It was a 26 and I wanted something larger, like a 19 and some regular capacity magazines.

I do plan on buying more Glocks in the future. My current Glock is a 30 and it has never failed to fire, failed to eject, failed to feed or any problem whatsoever.

But with that being said, I still wouldn't mind owning a few 1911's. :evil:

[GoRon]

You don't need any tools to detail strip a 1911, except whatever you need to take the grips off (screwdriver or allen wrench).

[Chuck Jennings]

It isn't an issue of so many people hating Glocks. This happens in a large group of people you can ask an opinion about any gun. Some of them will hate it and some of them will love it. Some of these people are fanboys, and some of these people have legitimate reasons to like/dislike. The only way to find out what is good for you (the only thing that really counts!) is to shoot one yourself.

[Curare]

"Go to an IDPA match and see how many people hate Glocks. Watch the 1911s jam!!

I took LFI - 1 with Preacherman, and IIRC the strong majority of guns were Glocks. I recall another class with Steve Moses and all the students had Glocks.

So I went into the Hill Country with friends. It's time to plink. 1911 with National Match blah, blah - jam. Browning BDM - jams. Sigma - jams. Very Expensive Kimber - jams.

My Glock - bang, bang, bang, ...

As far as no soul - that's what my SA revolvers are for."

GEM-excellent post. A combat pistol is a tool to defend you life with. If it is unreliable it is worthless.

[Edmond]

As for the no soul thing, I don't understand it. Like everyone else said, it's a tool that could save your life.

[WT]

I think Glock holds the World Record for recalling handguns.

[SpaceCowboy]

It isn't that I hate glock, but that I only like a few: 19 & 36. But I owned a 21, great gun; should've had a Robar grip reduction instead of selling it. Would be nice if they could make a full size single stack though, I'd buy two.

The problem with glock is that(trying to put it nicely) the way they are hyped by people as though they exist inside some nexus where the laws of physics and reality do not apply. I simply get tired of hearing about it. Bottom line= contrary to what Glocktalk.com will tell you glocks do and will jam, most firearms will shoot a limited time underwater(1 or 2 rounds?), they are not the ubergun, they are good(great even) but they do not harken the second coming. And where does jealousy come into it? It's a great gun, but there are very few guns I would be jealous of and glock isn't one(try Merkel--they are worth being envied). I am biased towards anyone who believes their firearm to be endowed with magic that causes it to be unrealistically flawless. All machines at sometime, will fail. Period. If glock was so mythically engendered with perfection, they would not have a need to sell you a takedown tool or offer an armorer's course. Furthermore, this nonsense that people who don't like glocks have never fired one is insane. Anyone who has done their research or spent any significant time in the shooting sports has, in all likelyhood, at one time test fired a glock.

Don't get me wrong, I like glock--some glocks-- but it is the more prevalant and opressive mysticism surounding them that turns me off; way off. Will I buy another glock? Of course. Do I buy the hype? If I do, it may cost me my like some day--overconfidence is a greater defect than any glock may or may not posess.

[TheEgg]

I love 1911 style autos. Own a lot of them, some very expensive ones. It is my favorite handgun -- but I also like SIGS a lot too.

Glocks are ugly, utlitarian little beasts. They have no charm, no style, no life to them.

I used to carry a 1911 every day.

Now I carry a Glock every day. It is overall a superior tool for concealed carrry in my opinion, so I switched. My carry gun is a tool, nothing more or less. If it works for me in that role better than the 1911 (and it does), that is what I carry.

For turning money into noise at the range, or for gun games, give me a 1911 every time -- for CCW the Glock is the ticket (for me -- YMMMV, etc.).

[Pebcac]

I loved my G19. The grip angle didn't bother me. Trigger didn't bother me, either, considering I shot better with my 19 than with just about any other pistol I've ever owned.

What bothered me was a conversation that went something like this:

"I have a model 19 that's affected by the recent recall-"
(Interrupting)"It's not a recall, it's an upgrade."
"Fine, upgrade, then. Anyway, I'd like to get the frame replacement mentioned on the GSSF website [not the main one] since this is my carry gun."
"Are you a law enforcement officer?"
"No."
"Then we recommend you keep it and shoot it until it breaks."

Umm, no. Like I said, it was my CCW gun, not just a plinking toy. I'm not carrying it and waiting for it to break on me when I need it most.

So, for me, the problem was the company, not the product. They identified a flaw and initiated what are really recall procedures including full manufacture of replacement parts. They did not, however, make any mention of the issue in the normally expected channels--not even on their website! It showed up on their shooting sports site! Then, when I called to get mine fixed, they told me to keep a potentially defective product until it actually failed.

I don't want to hear about the unlikelihood of failure, or that a Glock will run on three rails. If someone wants to tote a pistol that has a known manufacturing defect in a frame rail, and then wants to hope that only one side of that rail fails at a most critical moment, that's not my lookout.

If they hadn't told me to keep it until it broke, I'd probably still have it. They fixed the problem, after all. My issue was the suggestion that I hadn't bought a defensive tool, but a range toy. When I've ever had a need to call any other manufacturer, I've never run into this way of looking at a problem.

[camaroman]

Pebcac- Im surprised that you had that experience. Thats a bummer. I sent one of mine in for repairs and I mentioned that my other one maybe on the 'voluntary upgrade' list. After verification, they said send it to us and we will take care of it. I had a very pleasent experience.


I like my Glocks, the go boom when i need them too.

[Texshooter]

Terrible grip angle.
Terrible finger grooves.
Not as good a shooter as Rugers, Sigs, S&W, Kimbers.
Terrible rationalization regarding "trigger" safety.
Not perfect.
Arrogant corporate mentality.

[Lobotomy Boy]

I like Glocks. I have a 21 that I shoot very well... at the range. In self defense practice I'm better off with a traditional gun. I've just spent too many years shooting revolvers to instinctively shoot the Glock Safe Action trigger correctly in a panic situation. For slow-shooting, when I have time to think about using the trigger, I can punch a ragged hole in the ten ring at 21 feet on a regular basis, but in rapid-shooting self defense practice I tend to shoot low. I don't have that problem with any of my other guns.

If I was starting from scratch, I'd probably shoot nothing but Glocks and train myself to use that trigger system instinctively. But as an old fart I think I'm better off sticking with what works best for me.