[Drjones]

So here I sit, pondering the purchase of ANOTHER gun. (Oh, no! I'm sure you're all saying... ;) )

Actually, it would be my first rifle: a Marlin 336 stainless, in 30-30, thank you.

I don't yet have a rifle (well, a coupla old .22s, but....) so I suppose I need a rifle. Plus I've probably been reading too many SHTF threads... :rolleyes:

Most of all, I feel a need to accumulate guns because living in CA, the day may very well come when it becomes incredibly difficult, if not outright impossible to own them. :(

Or am I just suffering from "Sky's falling" syndrome?

[WonderNine]

Plus I've probably been reading too many SHTF threads...

I try to avoid those.

[4570Rick]

In a word, YES.

But don't take my word for it. Ask someone of importance like;

A teacher

A City Council member

A County Supervisor

Your Assembly member

A State Senator

A Doctor

A Lawyer

A Psychologist/Psychiatrist

Anyone from the DNC

:neener:

[Kahr carrier]

NO YOU ARE NUTS .Looking at the Anti-gun climate in the Prk you are actually SMART. Just look at the Handgun approved list its shrinking daily. Alot of the older nicer handguns can only be bought PPT . And then they are trying to ban the 50 Bmgs in the Prk. New handguns you are limited to 1 a month and they are trying to extend that to long guns.SO ACCUMULATE AWAY.:D

[Airwolf]

Kahr carrier has the right idea.

Buy until it hurts. It''s one of the ways to communicate how we "feel" about the encrochment of our rights.

Besides, there's ALWAYS one more gun that you want, isn't there? :evil:

My GF and I started "collecting" in August last year:

Walther P99
H&K USP 45
SA XD-9
Walther P22
SA Ultra Compact
CZ 75BD
CZ 97B
Para 14.45 Limited
Beretta Cougar
Beretta 96 Elite II
Mossberg 590A1
MN M-44
Ruger 10/22
SA M1A Scout
Tikka Whitetail

Just added an SKS yesterday and have my eye on the next purchase, A Marlin lever action and .357 revolver to match (haven't decided which yet).

There's LOTS more to go.... :D

[fallingblock]

It would be more 'nuts' if you didn't want more guns!:)

That Marlin stainless is on my list to acquire also...the purchase process takes even longer here in Australia than in PRK, if that is any consolation;)

[Hand_Rifle_Guy]

What? No rifle yet?

DID I SEE YOU TYPE THAT YOU HAVE NO RIFLE?

Are you freakin' nuts?!


"--without it I am useless..."

;) ;) ;)

Tsk tsk, Dr. Jones. You have been remiss. There is no "suppose" about it. Everybody needs a high-powered rifle, period. However, you're willingness to address this problem is a sign that you realize you have a problem. You must forthwith immediately purchase as many rifles as you can afford.

If you do not comply with this, we'll have to ship you off for re-education. Maybe someplace like Texas. Remember, guns are more important than food.

The stainless Marlin sounds like a dandy choice. My first gun was a Winchester M-94 in .30-30. Be warned that those slick little flyweight leverguns can kick pretty viciously, particularly with 170-grain bullets. Don't be fooled by all the "good beginners caliber" hype about the .30 WCF. In a gun that weighs less than 7 pounds, it can make your shoulder purple if you're not paying attention. (And if you shoot 60-odd rounds of Silvertips the first time out with no instruction like I did. Ouch.)

Other options include a Savage M-99 in either .308 or .300 Savage, or the aforementioned Winchester.

In the context of the Kaliforny gun-grabbing attitude, you might want to advance consideration of a semi-auto up to the top. A Garand would be a good choice, or an M-14 copy. Of the two, the Garand is probably going to cost less, particularly if you get it through the DCM. Other options are the BAR, the Remington 7400, and my favorite, the Remington Model 8/81. A PRK-specific reference thread. (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5846) (Plugging the M-8 is the real reason I mentioned semi's at all. They're about as cool as a stainless Marlin, and they can cost half as much, IF you can find one. We now return you to your thread's original intent. ;) )

I would suggest getting a BFR in .30-30 as a companion gun, but of course, they're not on the Kal-DOJ Extortion List. That might be a case for a pistol-caliber gun like a .44 Mag. (Yes, I saw your "which caliber" thread.) Another possibility is either a .480 or a .454. Rossi is making a slick Winchester 92 copy in .454, and USRAC is producing the Winchester 94 in .480. Revolvers in these calibers are avalable here in the Interdiction Zone, and the .454 is a rifle round by any definition except that it appeared first chambered in handguns.

I wonder if the .500 Magnum's going to turn up in leverguns. Seems like it'd be a pretty good choice...too long to wait, though.

Because you're right, after all. This is the People's Republik of Korny Kaliforny, and because our liberal gubmint unofficials squall it to the rooftops, the sky IS falling. It's just a matter of time, unless some sort of dramatic reversal of fortune happens. :(

[ACP230]

Every shooter ought to have a lever rifle around somewhere. I shoot mostly bolts and semiautos, but even I have a Savage 99, a Marlin 336 in 35 Remington and a Rossi .357 hanging around.

They can all be used for deer hunting at reasonable ranges and two of them would work nicely for lever action silhouette, something I plan to try someday.

The Rossi is going to be replaced with a Marlin in .41 Magnum this year sometime. That will be my Cowboy Action rifle when I try that again.

[Tamara]

Accumulating guns...Am I nuts?

Lord, I hope not! What would that say about me? :eek: ;)

[cslinger]

I prefer to think of myself as eccentric. Yes my voices and I much prefer eccentric.

Life's short and you are dead a long time. Have fun and torque off a few anti-gunners while your at it. Just do it safely and responsibly so nobody gets hurt and you don't go destitute.

Chris

[cslinger]

How the heck do you have over 1500 posts :what:

Didn't this place just start two months ago?

Chris

[JohnBT]

Where? Probably talking 'bout you in the Moderator's forum :D

Meanwhile, back to the thread...To buy guns or not buy guns?

Well, don't ask me. I went to the gun show Saturday and all I bought was an $1800 safe. And some hot turkey jerky. Say that fast three times.

John

[Art Eatman]

I've been studyin' on this phenomenon for a number of years, about why I wind up with so many guns of all sorts. I finally figured out that it must be my magnetic personality. :D Them little doofers just natcherly follow me home!

Maybe that's why I don't have much in the way of plastic fantastics...

Art

[Skunkabilly]

Redneck Assault Rifle!

I wouldn't mind a light and handier rifle maybe an SKS or Marlin 30-30, but isn't 30-30 ammo quite pricey?

[Drjones]

So honestly, all kidding aside, would it indeed be prudent of me to purchase all the firearms I can while I still can?

(Sorta a dumb question now that I look at it typed out in front of me...:rolleyes: )

I just feel guilty.... :(

[hawk0484]

At the top of any wish list, I have either guns or gun-related items. For Christmas, I got a .357 LadySmith& one of my sons gave me a swinging target for .22 practice. For Valentine's Day, our romantic night out was a trip to the range. When in doubt, get Mom ammo or a weapon!

Hubby was teasing me about his friends' wives wish lists being full of jewelry and mine being weapons. To that, I replied, "Yep...I've got more jewelry than I can wear at once, but I'm sure I could carry more weapons than I have. Besides, I have no daughters to leave jewelry to. I can leave guns to our boys." My 17 year old pipes up with how he's gonna be hovering around my deathbed, trying to get "in good" with me! Good laughs!!

Becky

[firestar]

If I lived in CA, I don't think I would be buying many guns. I would wait until I moved out of state and buy them for half the cost and get the good ones. Hi-cap mags, assult rifles, guns without internal lock, guns without a spent caseing. I would nuts! I love buying guns without a spent casing, it makes me feel so bad!:neener:

[2dogs]

Every one I've bought so far has been the last one..................until the next one which I always swear is the last one...................until.....................:)

[AmericanFreeBird]

Nope, you're normal and the Marlin is an excellent choice for an all around reliable firearm.

[GW45]

I have to agree with 2Dogs - the last firearm I bought was going to be the last I was going to get, well - that's what I tell myself as I walk out the door with another box.....:D

If you're nuts the rest of us will be in the adjoining rooms with you at the funny farm.....do they have ranges there????

[M1911]

I finally figured out that it must be my magnetic personality.I've tried telling my wife that they reproduce when we close the safe door, but she isn't buying it:p

[spacemanspiff]

drjones, you could have one of every type of firearm ever made, and i'd still call you nuts. in fact, even if you had no guns at all, i'd call you nuts. but thats just me. i call everyone nuts.

yes, get a rifle. then another. and another. and dont forget to feed your handgun habit either. i'm still smiling about the mauser i got two months ago.

[kmays]

You're contemplating buying your first rifle, and already you're worried about "accumulating guns?"

Don't worry about it until you have to dedicate a room to them, and closets don't count.

One suggestion: 30-30 is fine, but you really should get a .44 instead... this will neatly lead into the "But honey, I really need to get a matching revolver so I can use the same ammo" argument.

[goon]

Nothing wrong with buying a few guns...
I just bought one last month, and I am going to pay my next one off this week.
It's an AK.:D
I still have the wish list from hell...
A FAL of some sort,
A Makarov,
A .22LR automatic pistol,
Another .22LR rifle,
An Albanian SKS or two,
Another M-39,
Another M91/30,
A No4 Enfield,
And whatever else I come across that I like.:D
Unfortunately, I will run out of money long before I can afford all of those.
I have to prioritize. :mad:

[Standing Wolf]

Or am I just suffering from "Sky's falling" syndrome?

Nope. The sky is falling on American civil rights in the People's Republic of California. Vast portions of American First, Second, and Fourth Amendment civil rights have already been lost, and more will surely follow.

[Sven]

Hand Rifle Guy just sold me on a Garand or that Remington Model 8/81.

Dr Jones: I imagine that somewhere the marginal utility of buying another weapon will start tapering off and you will settle into a 'normal' consumer pattern...

... say, somewhere around the accumulation of gun number 100.

[G-Raptor]

Am I nuts?

Nope.

Every gun you buy is one more the "masters" will have to look for. The more they have to look for, the more nervous they will get. The more nervous they are, the better off we are. :neener:

[Uncle Ethan]

Drjones- I will certify you as certifiable if that will slow your gun acqisitions down so there will be more for me!! Besides, they are an investment that always goes up!! My Ruger #1 w/match XXairguage bbl for $350.00-what's it worth now? My Shilow Sharps Farmingdale Gemmer in 4 digit range for $1200.00- My 1911 Colt Commercial mfged in 1914 in mint condition for $1000.00. What are they going for now? Best investment around, and they are FUN!!! BUY MORE, BUT WAIT 'TIL I AM THROUGH. :D

[ahadams]

uh, Dr. J. what you need to be doing is seeking out old timers, folks who are getting up in years to the point where they may no longer feel like they want to shoot one or more of whatever they may have in their closets. If they're of like mind to those folks here, I'm sure they'd rather have those things in the hands of someone who would preserve them and use them wisely, and if approached appropriately with a reasonable monetary offer be persuaded to sell them to you...

the more you have completely off paper the better you are set for the future. That's why the left hates private sales so much!

[45R]

Dr. Jones-
In my professional opinion I wouldnt send you out for a psych evaluation. :)

Your just trying to complete your Three-Gun Combo. :) Go for that 30-30. You know you want it. Then show it off at the meet on the 23rd :)

Take care

45R

[Drjones]

Bump.

:)

[MicroBalrog]

I just feel guilty....

Remember how you were small, and you didn't eat and your Mom said "think of the starving children in Africa"?

Think of all the people in the UK. Actually, think of the people in Israel.:D

Now GO BUY THAT RIFLE!:neener:

[Scooter .45]

There are alot worse things to spend money on than guns, so stock up! You can always recoup a significant portion of a gun's original value if you decide to sell, which isn't true with many things, even "necessities" like food and clothing. I use this fact as justification for most of my gun purchases :D

[Hkmp5sd]

The only valid reason to stop accumulating guns is because you already own one of every model in existence. Once you reach that point, you start on the custom and commemorative firearms.

[Greg L]

Accumulating guns...Am I nuts?...

...Actually, it would be my first rifle...

If you don't have a rifle then you have not yet begun to accumulate. If you don't have a C&R then you really haven't begun to accumulate (I just ordered three today. Still trying to figure out how that happened :rolleyes: )

Most of all, I feel a need to accumulate guns because living in CA, the day may very well come when it becomes incredibly difficult, if not outright impossible to own them.

Ammo might be a better bet (after you've accumulated a few rooms full of rifles :D ).

[Smoke]

You're asking this group if you're nuts for accumulating guns?

Yes, you're nuts....but it's not for accumulating guns.



The only valid reason to stop accumulating guns is because you already own one of every model in existence.
Change that to: "own two of every model in existence" and I'll agree with you.


:D :neener: :D

[Greg L]

Change that to: "own two of every model in existence" and I'll agree with you.

Three, that way I can give one to each of the kids. Thinking about it, bump that up to four that way they won't plan on getting rid of me to get their inheretance (I can just give them theirs while still enjoying mine). Ooops, better make that five of each when you factor Mrs. L in.

Five of each it is :D .

Greg

[Quartus]

Are you nuts? Yes, my dear Jones, you are certainly nuts. No question about it.


Now, what was that about buying guns? :confused:



:D




Okay, no, you ain't nuts, and yes, the sky is falling. Follow the advertising maxim - buy now and SAVE!


And save them out of state.

[cordex]

The only valid reason to stop accumulating guns is because you already own one of every model in existence.
What about different finishes? Barrel lengths? Grips/stocks?

[roscoe]

Get a military-style semi-auto rifle while you still can: mini 14, M1A, SU16, SKS, whatever.

[telewinz]

If you think you might be crazy because you want to get another gun....I went over the edge many, many years ago.

The only valid reason to stop accumulating guns is because you already own one of every model in existence.

The only other reason I can think of is because your DEAD!

Self-defense almost never enters into my train of thought, unless you live in a third world country or a few crime centers in this country (consider moving) its a bogus issue with me. I enjoy guns for their history and design, I don't try to impress people with them or dream of "taking out" a bunch of right wing nuts. I rarely discuss my hobby with friends or anyone else other than THR, sometimes it pays NOT to advertise. I do it for my own entertainment/enjoyment, the "fruits of my labor"sort of speak. Thats all the reason I need.

The sky is falling only for a very few, Ohio will soon join the list of CCW states. Thats tangible progress even to the most crazy doomsayer.

[Majic]

Yes I think you're nuts because you don't have a rifle yet. :neener:

[Sheslinger]

Nuts is such an ugly word.......
I prefer to think of myself as eccentric. Yes my voices and I much prefer eccentric.



Don't you have to have millions of dollars to be called eccentric? I would call you unorthodox. Yeah, that's it.

Sheslinger

[Thumper]

Are you nuts?

Absolutely: You're buying a 336 when there are short barreled '94s all over the place.

Buy the '94.

[minnesota oldie]

You have a problem with to many guns. I advise you to send them to me as soon as possible since I don't have that problem.

Browning buck mark
Berreta Neos
S&w 41
SP 101 22 lr
GP100 .357
SP101 .357
Taurus Tracker .17
NAA Mini .17
Glock 17
Glock 19
Glock 26
Glock34
Glock 36
Colt Commander
Kimber Tac II
Kimber Gold Match
CZ 52
Mini 14
5 shot guns
2 22 rifles
and the list goes on. Just add yours below.

[TarpleyG]

Actually, it would be my first rifle: a Marlin 336 stainless, in 30-30, thank you.
Actually, I just bought one of these from a fellow forumite. I get it for Christmas so I haven't shot it yet. Can't wait to get out to the range on 1/3 to try it out. Overall though, it looks like a VERY well made rifle. Go for it. I think everybody needs a lever rifle in the safe.

GT

[hansolo]

RE: "..Isn't .30-.30 ammo pricey?"

I've found it at Walmart for about $6.00/20 -- American Eagle. If you get the .30-.30 like I did(Win. '94), you probably won't shoot more than that until your shoulder gets used to it. Get into handloading and price plummets. BTW I had my first three handguns and really wasn't into rifles.
I stumbled on a PPtransfer and aquired an older Win. 22 Lr., the Win. '94 and, a couple weeks later, a friend offered me his SKS at a great price; now I spend equal time with handguns and rifles...they're all fun! I highly
reccomend the SKS -- minimal recoil and that cheap Russian ammo means you can shoot a lot! California has no internal gun lock law, as stated earlier in this thread. If you move to a more gun-friendly state, just buy "hi-cap" magazines.

So, Yes! Buy as many as you can....I don't see any downside.

[P95Carry]

NUTS!! Naw ......... :D

Every purchase i make is ''the last'' :rolleyes: Trouble is the last month has seen an average of approx one per week.:eek: And there are still 2 in the ''pipeline''. Oops!

What the heck .... I keep telling my wife ..... she can bury me three times over with the funds tied up in my inventory .... and still leave enough so my son can choose some choice items!:D

[G.I.Jew]

The Marlin 336 in .30-30 is a great rifle. The 20" rifle balances extremely well, so it is easy to shoot offhand. Recoil, while not severe, is enough to make you flinch if you are not careful. The recoil doesn't bother me that much unless I fire off many rounds in succession from the bench. It is incredibly accurate, too. I have one made in 1948, and I have put four shots through the same hole at 29 yards with the regular sights. You made a good choice.

[Gordon]

And with a scout sight set up it is about the most practical set up there exists. And no your not crazy , I have currently 208 firearms with 2 new(antiques) ones on the way, I have 5 large safes in Calif and a vault in Oregon.I have got rid of anything that I wouldn't/can't shoot! I started collecting when I was 9 or ten and that was almost 1/2 a century ago. I had over 300 at one time but I am giving to 4 son's a firearm each at least for Christmas or a birthday as I get older and cannot use or mainain my collection. I sold very valuable antiques over the years to finance homes,educations, business and other ventures.You see my family in Georgia had , until 1949 when it burnt down, the largest gun collection in the South , and I got a leg up early on! My wife understands that unlike clothing you don't take your guns to good will after a couple years! You don't have to have mechanics fixing them as they depreciate either,well not if you don't buy junk guns!:evil: Anyway everybody has a hobby and guns seem a lot less than Golf, boats and other money pits where your investment deteriorates as you have fun,(what the hell, primers and barrels are cheap):neener:

[Matt G]

Keep us not in suspense, Herr Doktor, did you alleviate your nuttiness with long guns bearing rifled bores?

Pray tell.

[Drjones]

Thanks for asking, Matt. :)

Honestly, the reason I bumped this thread is because of my drive to accumulate pistols.

I'm not sure if you are familiar with SB 489 that commie davis signed a while back. It requires all semi-auto pistols sold in the state to have a chamber loaded indicator and mag disconnect, effective Jan 1, 2005.

Those requirements obviously mean that the vast majority of semi-automatic pistols will no longer be legal for sale in CA. :cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

So, I just bought a Desert Eagle, next gun will be a Colt 1991A1, and after that, either a stainless 1991A1 or Glock 29. There are more on the list too...

So that's my predicament.

I've not yet acquired the Marlin, though I will at some point. I guess sometime in 2005 when I can no longer buy pistols, I'll start accumulating long guns and a revolver or two.

Maybe I'll start with the .500 S&W to really piss of the antis. :D :D :D

[Bob Locke]

Well, you ARE nuts, but it's got nothing to do with buying firearms!

And a good lever gun is an under-the-radar way to get some firepower, IMO. It doesn't raise any eyebrows over the mantle in the living room, but packs plenty of punch out to a couple od hundred yards.

[kentucky bucky]

The little man that lives in my sock drawer told me I wasn't.










:scrutiny:

[P95Carry]

The little man that lives in my sock drawer told me I wasn't. kb .... my ''little man'' lives full time in my safe .. he says ''OK'' too but does complain now and again cos conditions seem to get ever more cramped!:p :D

[Bainx]

Sir, you have the same instinct as I;)

[Captain Scarlet]

your better off saving your money, in California something legal today is
banned tommorrow, investing money in soon to be banned guns is not a good idea if your planning on staying in CA.

[Uncle Ethan]

Anyone planning on staying in Kali probably doesn't like guns anyway. As soon as my children start popping out Grandchildren my wife will be willing to leave, and the difference in price from here to there will help retirement and buy me more gun/ I mean investments.:D

[Mastrogiacomo]

I feel the same way living in Massachusetts. I want to buy everything I can in case we get more restrictions. I don't think I'm nuts but I'm sure others might. I have a small collection for now:

2 Beretta type M
1 92FS Blue
1 92FS Inox Brigadier (as of this coming Saturday:D )
1 S&W 686 4"

I hope to get a couple of Ruger New Single Six by early February and after that, I'm still thinking.....but I'd love to get a rifle when I'm done with my handgun collection. :p

[Brass Balls]

Buy an M1A first because it is more likely to be banned before a lever action "cowboy" rifle.

[Sven]

Brass Balls: We are on the same page there.

[Langenator]

That's why my first C&R buys are going to be a couple of Yugo SKS's...get 'em cheap before they get taken off the list.

[fiVe]

I don't get it---are we trying to say it's possible to buy too many guns?:p

[XLMiguel]

Q.: Accumulating guns...Am I nuts?

A.: Nope.

[michiganfan]

The cop at the local department who does the safety inspections laughs every time I walk in the door because every gun is my "last gun".

Me: "Swear to God Paul this is the last one."

Him: "You'll be back."

[ZekeLuvs1911]

Let's see.........................I got a 12ga. shotgun, 3 AR-15's, 1 M1A , and 20 handguns.............hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............yeah, you're nuts!!!!! Stay away from me!!!!!!!!! :neener: