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wizmar
December 23, 2004, 03:00 PM
Why would anyone Want to carry OPEN, for What reason?
(1) Does it make you feel like a Tuff Guy...(2) Do you think it makes you more Secure?...(3) Your in the Open and Open to anyone that wants you, they already know you are Armed so there is No suprise? (4) No offense but it makes you look like something out of a Goof Movie.

Those of Us that are trying to get Politics on our side to Change Laws for the better and Allow us to carry Concealed are being Joked Off by Carry open, there is No reason to do this. So if you want to Carry, Put it under something on your Person, you Know it Just may save your LIFE.

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Valkman
December 23, 2004, 03:09 PM
If you don't have a CCW then open carry is your only option, if it's legal where you live. If you cover it up then you're illegal because it's concealed - that's why it's called Open Carry. :)

MarkDido
December 23, 2004, 03:25 PM
Nuff Said

mustanger98
December 23, 2004, 03:27 PM
Why would anyone Want to carry OPEN, for What reason?

Some handguns some of us like to shoot and carry, for a variety of reasons aside from the defensive, are too big to easily conceal. If we have legal Open Carry, we don't have to worry about trying to conceal the nearly unconcealable. Plus, and I say this as one who builds his own gunleather, a good holster is a work of art and why would anybody want to conceal that.

(1) Does it make you feel like a Tuff Guy...

That is one idiotic question. Does CCW make you feel any tougher because a BG may attack you and enable you to legally blow him away?

(2) Do you think it makes you more Secure?...

What makes one secure is not a weapon, but rather situational awareness. A weapon, concealed or not, is no substitute for situational awareness.

(3) Your in the Open and Open to anyone that wants you, they already know you are Armed so there is No suprise?

If a lot more people carried, open or concealed, the crooks would be on a lot more notice than they are. 1- more people are packing, and 2- just because somebody does or don't have one visible don't mean they don't have one.

In Georgia, we can legally carry a sidearm as long as it's in a holster. The way the law reads, that may or may not be concealed by a coat as long as it's in a holster.

(4) No offense but it makes you look like something out of a Goof Movie.

Looks to me like somebody needs to get a grip on the difference between Hollywierd and reality.

Those of Us that are trying to get Politics on our side to Change Laws for the better and Allow us to carry Concealed are being Joked Off by Carry open,

The key word here is "politics" and if you feel "joked off" by open carry, you must not believe the 2A means what it says about "shall not be infringed".

Greg L
December 23, 2004, 03:33 PM
The search button is your friend ;) .

geekWithA.45
December 23, 2004, 03:35 PM
Although controversial, I support open carry as a matter of principle.

Sometimes you simply need to excercise your rights, as an assertion that you have them.

The degree to which it is controversial in any given area is a direct measurement of the amount of political and social work that needs to be done to secure the social acceptability of being armed.

wizmar
December 23, 2004, 03:38 PM
The Point I was making was--This is the way Liberals Look at it, I know there are time when you carry Open, but the Liberals do not think walking Down Main street is the way to do it and they will keep on fighting the CCW law.
So do not get MAD, Vote for a Politician that beleives in CCW and Open carry, the Way to change a Bad law is to change a Bad Politician?

R.H. Lee
December 23, 2004, 03:38 PM
Apparently, 'wizmar' is not a proponent of open carry. I find his argument uncompelling however. :rolleyes:

spacemanspiff
December 23, 2004, 03:55 PM
the Liberals do not think walking Down Main street is the way to do it
yeah, i tend not to pay much attention to the opinions of liberals.

lessee, liberals sue tobacco companies when they willingly smoke their cigarrettes and get sick.
liberals sue fast food companies when they eat their fast food and get sick.
liberals sue gun manufacturers when criminals use them to injure/kill others.
liberals sue to remove anything related to religion out of the public eye.
liberals sue to force everyone to accept/embrace their lack of morality.

to me, the simple fact that it irritates liberals is enough reason to open carry. too bad i live in a state where even our most leftist liberals are gunowners that are okay with open/concealed carry.

dav
December 23, 2004, 05:51 PM
Thank you for putting it politely, RileyMc. I was tempted to leave the High Road. :banghead:

TallPine
December 23, 2004, 05:55 PM
When the grizzly bears see my .45, they immediately turn and run away :neener:

Seriously, if you come on my land and don't like the revolver on my hip, then you are welcome to leave.

geekWithA.45
December 23, 2004, 05:58 PM
If you come to my land and DON'T have a gun on your hip, you are EXPECTED to leave, presumably to go get one, which should at minimum be in your trunk.

The guests in my house are expected to help me defend it, and that's not doable unless they are properly armed.

:neener: :neener: :neener:

Ian
December 23, 2004, 06:11 PM
I like open carry, because it makes me feel powerful, like Rambo or John Wayne. When I open carry, everybody knows that the I-dawg don't take nuthin' from nobody, and if they try something they'll get a face full of Mr Point-Five-Oh Deagle!

Oops, did I say that out loud? :p I think what I meant is:

- Open carry is more comfortable than concealed.
- Open carry allows a significantly faster draw than concealed.
- Open carry deters criminals from acting, rather than merely allowing you to repond with force (an ounce of prevention, and all that).
- Open carry might help condition people to seeing guns in day-to-day life.
- Out in the boonies, nobody cares anyway.

Standing Wolf
December 23, 2004, 06:32 PM
Why would anyone Want to carry OPEN, for What reason?

I carry openly about a quarter or a third of the time for several reasons:

1. I have a perfectly legitimate, perfectly legal right to do so, and I believe rights, like I.Q. points and muscles, benefit from regular, frequent exercise.

2. It's much easier to carry more gun in a hip holster than try to conceal it. I can conceal a four-inch Colt Python reasonably well; I can carry a three-inch pre-agreement Smith & Wesson model 629 in a hip holster with much less stress to my lower back.

3. I believe America would be a saner, more polite nation if millions upon millions of us saw law-abiding citizens keeping and bearing arms openly, legally, and safely.

That said™, I've to confess that to date, the only people who've noticed my carrying openly are the fellows I shoot bullseye with two evenings a week.

Warren
December 23, 2004, 07:23 PM
Dude, it's just a tool.


Get over it.

dairycreek
December 23, 2004, 07:38 PM
Obviously, you must make some good choices when you opt to carry open. Carrying in a metropolitan area probably would not be a really good choice. But I have carried open in rural eastern Oregon which is "cowboy country" to say the least. People's reaction to me was disconcerting to say the least. So much so that I stopped doing it. So, while I have no problem with open carry per se my own experience says that it makes a lot of people nervous and why would I want to do that? My answer it that I don't just to make a point. FWIW.

musher
December 23, 2004, 07:44 PM
No offense but it makes you look like something out of a Goof Movie.

I've always wondered why some folks think it's ok to say offensive or insulting things if they simply precede their statement with the words 'no offense, but...'


:rolleyes:

ClarkEMyers
December 23, 2004, 08:08 PM
My GWH doesn't really hide enough gun for hunting - game that is.

There are certainly places I feel diffident about open carry. I'd rather not go there. I do wear a shoot me first vest but that's just for the pockets.

Even in Michigan I'd expect some difference between the upper and lower peninsula? Why should anybody worry his head about what I might or might not do on family land where we try to be what America was? The family still has a piece of furniture that took a bullet during Quantrill's raid on Lawrence - next time we'll be better prepared.

Tom Servo
December 23, 2004, 08:11 PM
I don't generally carry openly except at "gun" functions, but at the same time, I'd rather not end up with a Texas-type situation where I've got to be absolutely paranoid about keeping it concealed at all times. I don't mind others doing it; they'll get a second-glance, but that's me just checking out their sidearm. It IS a conversation-starter :)

What I do care about is that the right to do so still exists, whether or not I choose to excercise it.

wizmar
December 23, 2004, 09:43 PM
Do Not get Mad at me, I am 100% for the 2nd Amendment, I believe in a CCW and Open Carry because that is our Rights, I am just saying that the Liberals want to take this away and sometimes where you carry your weapon can give them a excuse to further try and hold up our right to carry. A person in a Rural area would not draw attention to a Gun as one walking down a Main street, its just common sense where you carry, and this is where attorneys watch when you pull the Trigger. Thats why Liberals will never Win the Fight, they have No common sense, to them everybody that breaks the Law is a (Child of Love).

jamz
December 23, 2004, 09:44 PM
I never carry open here in MA, though there is no law against it. I don't just because of the hassle involved in this state. Open carry is, however, much easier. Having to conceal is difficult sometimes.

-James
Plus, it makes me feel like a Tuff guy in a Goof Movie. ;)

bpisler
December 23, 2004, 09:55 PM
I open carry because i can,i don't feel a need to get a permission slip from the local or state goverment to carry concealed.In almost 13 years carrying in the open in phoenix i've heard only 3 comments about my gun.If you don't like open carry,then don't do it.

CB900F
December 23, 2004, 10:11 PM
Wizmar;

There are those of us, who upon occasion, take a walk. Now, I know that this is going to be hard for you to understand, but bear with me. We don't do it on pavement.

Since we don't take our walks on pavement, we recognize that the mugger we meet may be politically incorrect & will wear fur. And worse than that, said mugger may not want our wallet, but our gullet. As these muggers are of rather low IQ, or at the very least, non-college-grads, they don't recognize weapons. Very politically correct in that, but beside the point.

Trying to conceal a Freedom Arms .454 is not impossible I suppose, but not worth the bother. Besides the concealment could slow one's access to said .454; the muggers generally conceded to have better reaction times than us poor tool user's.

Or, to put it another way, I know for a stone fact that free range grizzly bears have bad breath. Look where Tall Pine & I are from.

900F

Ryder
December 23, 2004, 10:20 PM
The idea of freedom is that you don't need the approval or permission of others Wizmar. Least of all those without common sense. Your car can be a more deadly weapon than a pistol. If the sight of it scares somebody that is their problem, not yours.

I've carried openly in public without negative feedback. I did it because I had to by law. I don't do it anymore because I don't have to. If others want to do it for whatever reason it's nobody's business to say otherwise as far as I can figure.

Standing Wolf
December 23, 2004, 10:53 PM
...sometimes where you carry your weapon can give them a excuse to further try and hold up our right to carry.

People who tip-toe around in fear of provoking the leftist extremists—as if that bunch of parasites ever needed excuses to wreak havoc with the nation's civil rights!—don't still have their civil rights. The most wretched slave is the one who enforces his own bondage.

mnrivrat
December 23, 2004, 11:07 PM
Hummm --- This sounds like a take off on the thread regarding Maria 's article that advises against open carry.

I think what both Maria and Wismar are getting at is that open carry is not politicaly correct in most area's of the country and particularly in larger cities. They are also concerned that because of this, open carry will do more political harm to the cause of gun rights than good.

In a sense , I think that can be true. On the other hand, I can also relate to those who feel a need to display , if for no other reason, to make a statement ,and to somewhat de-sensitize and educate the general public so that they realize that carrying a gun does not automatically make you something to fear.

Is open carry a in-your-face statement ? Sometimes , but not likely nearly the statement a gay pride parade is for example.

I realy think it is a non-issue for the most part. Most who open carry do so in area's that are somewhat more excepting of it, and for reasons other than making a statement.

Taurus 66
December 23, 2004, 11:25 PM
For one to carry non-concealed provides more ease amongst the public majority immediately exposed to it than it does to raise tension and uneasiness amongst the smaller minority. A sidearm proudly displayed is likely to deter small scale criminal acts within its immediate vicinity. And you'd better think twice if you believe it's easy to relinquish a pistol from its owner because it's visible! Just because it's there saying "Hello", it's not at all an easy take.

Concealment takes slightly longer to get the piece out from under the coat, shirt, vest, etc, and bring it to drop an accurate bead on someone. The time difference between this and that is minute. On the positive side, concealment allows me to visit family, friends, my bank, while armed and not have to worry about any negative feedback from them.

migoi
December 23, 2004, 11:33 PM
is to educate the masses. A huge majority of folks in the U.S. only know about guns through the mass media (TV, movies, magazines, and newspapers). I meet people all the time that have never handled a firearm. Since they draw all their knowledge about firearms from those sources they end up with a pretty warped view about what folks have firearms.

The people that have guns in the mass media fall into a very few categories (I know there are a few exceptions but the overwhelming majority will fall into these few categories): LEO's, criminals, military, survivalist nutbags, and folks in the process of flipping out. You hardly ever (if ever) see a ordinary, go to work every day, pay their taxes, raise their kids to the best of their ability, worry about rising taxes types of people who are not in the process of flipping out have guns in those media sources.

Those that live in places where open carry is legal should exercise that right so that all those soccer moms will see that just because a person has ready access to a firearm doesn't mean that the person will resort to it to resolve all conflicts or situations. All us ordinary folks with firearms need to show that we are just that...ordinary folks. One way to do that is to open carry during the normal course of our daily lives. Except of course those of us that live in places where it is unlawful.

This all of course is just my opinion and it could all be wrong.

migoi

tyme
December 24, 2004, 12:15 AM
Do Not get Mad at me, I am 100% for the 2nd Amendment, I believe in a CCW and Open Carry because that is our Rights, I am just saying that the Liberals want to take this away and sometimes where you carry your weapon can give them a excuse to further try and hold up our right to carry.
You are not 100% for the 2nd amendment as envisioned by the founders. Evidence from the founding era at least up to around 100 years ago demonstrates that open carry was considered good while concealed carry was frowned upon or forbidden.

Perhaps you'd like to address why only some states have stronger prohbiitions against open carry of handguns than against concealed carry, while in others it's the other way around? Carry laws in the U.S. are a colossal mess. Arguing against open or concealed carry, rather than supporting both with good arguments, will only make the situation worse.

FunGunner
December 24, 2004, 07:39 AM
Been my experience that most people are too wrapped up in their own little world to notice a pistol on some one's hip, and if they do they usually think that you are a cop. Because "only the police are allowed to wear guns in public right?" said those that don't read town, city, county, and state codes.

Kharn
December 24, 2004, 09:02 AM
Because it is a giant "Stay away!" sign to criminals. I can only carry at the firing range, but I carry openly so that there's no question I'm always armed. (our range is about 50 yds from the parking lot, with heavy woods in-between, perps have waited in the woods lining the lot before and robbed the last shooter to leave)

Kharn

Smurfslayer
December 24, 2004, 10:05 AM
Why would anyone Want to carry OPEN, for What reason?
(1) Does it make you feel like a Tuff Guy...(2) Do you think it makes you more Secure?...(3) Your in the Open and Open to anyone that wants you, they already know you are Armed so there is No suprise? (4) No offense but it makes you look like something out of a Goof Movie.

Those of Us that are trying to get Politics on our side to Change Laws for the better and Allow us to carry Concealed are being Joked Off by Carry open, there is No reason to do this. So if you want to Carry, Put it under something on your Person, you Know it Just may save your LIFE.


[SS] Why would anyone clearly having an inferiority complex want to try and bait the open carriers on the board? Does it make you feel like a Crusader for Right?

Ignorance of history is no excuse for this kind of baiting. In the time it took you to get all worked up and type your baiting post, you could have looked up some significant historical cases dealing with open vs. concealed carry.

http://www.guncite.com/court/state/

Start with Bliss vs. Commonwealth. Once you feel good about the Republic, point your browser to State v. Reid. Then Nunn Vs. State. Don't forget Mitchell either.

Once you're done with all of this, then you'll have some standing to discuss the issue intelligently. You'll then have an understanding that concealed carry has been considered 'the practice of ruffians and criminals', for more than a century.

And so that you may not lay exclusive claim to mantle of political champion of the RKBA, why don't you quantify what you've done?

Where were you when I asked for help with the NPS? Have you done anything for it?

In the past year I have written in excess of 20 letters to the editory and 2 op eds, 7 total of which were published. I've personally lobbied the Virginia State General Assembly on behalf of over 2 dozen bills, to the tune of over 100 emails, several letters and a couple personal visits. I kept my Congressional delegation's feet to the fire on the AWB, civil immunity, and, once again, the NPS for their stupid self defense ban.

I could do more, and I'm devoting more of my time to the effort as a whole. There is always room for improvement, and I intend to be more involved next year.

What have you done?

wizmar
December 24, 2004, 02:31 PM
Ist of all I am not Baiting anyone, this is a Open forum, and these were just Questions I have heard asked by Political People and I wanted to see what the People of this forum felt about these type of Questions.
And to you My friend: You are the One that seems to be blowing Your HORN about what you have done? Anyone can write a Letter it just depends how it is Received and How it is Written that Counts. I beleive you are the One With a Inferiority Complex.

Have a Nice Christmas and a Happ New Year.

fistful
December 25, 2004, 02:10 AM
Smurfslayer ,

May we no longer shoot our mouths off in forums without reading a lot of cases we have never heard of, and may not have known how to access? What else is the internet for? Thanks for bringing those resources to our attention, but the condescension is not appreciated.

Must we all have the same level of political involvement or awareness in order to shoot the bull on the internet?

Could I put you in your place by revealing that I am Alan Gottlieb, Larry Pratt, or some other professional RKBA guy, and therefore holier than thou?

As you are so committed to the cause, perhaps you would help a poor lost soul, and tell me what is an NPS.

Thanks,

fistful


Wizmar ,

I believe your question has been very succinctly answered. - Open carry is more comfortable than concealed.
- Open carry allows a significantly faster draw than concealed.
- Open carry deters criminals from acting, rather than merely allowing you to repond with force (an ounce of prevention, and all that).
- Open carry might help condition people to seeing guns in day-to-day life.


Now answer some of mine.

What on earth is a goof movie? Neva hoid of it.

Tuff guy? Tuff is not in my dictionary. What does it mean?

What is wrong with carrying a gun openly?

Ian's point about conditioning people to seeing guns is very important. On a similar note, many anti-carry people have an idea in their head of the kind of nut who would carry a gun, and open carry may help them realize that gun-totin' folks (some of you, anyway) are normal ( I do not carry).

fistful
December 25, 2004, 02:14 AM
I must protest the comparison of carrying a gun with the sad and disgusting spectacle of a homosexual "pride" parade. Wait a minute, though. If they're so proud, why must they use euphemisms like "gay"?

A gay and happy Christmas to all, and a joyous new year.

P95Carry
December 25, 2004, 02:21 AM
geekWithA.45 If you come to my land and DON'T have a gun on your hip, you are EXPECTED to leave, Hey dude - I'll be staying - maybe 357 minutes or if a bit rushed - just the 45 LOL!!

I support open carry, to the max. I do however practice ''diplomacy'' ... much depends on a guy's locale and whilst excercizing of the right is good, usually - it can IMO at times be counter-productive. There is perhaps a need to judge conditions and circumstances. It is hard to merge all opinions as valid within the diversity of the lower 48.

OK Alaska - you ain't got this prob anyways really! Not forgetting HI either but don't think you guys have many options.

wasrjoe
December 25, 2004, 02:29 AM
I am 19. If I want to carry, it's open carry or nothing.

RevDisk
December 25, 2004, 02:36 AM
Some of my weapons are too large to wear concealed. You try stuffing a 3.5 foot long machinegun down your pants some time and see how comfy it is.

Oh yea, it also makes me feel tough and manly. Belt fed usually has that effect.

P95Carry
December 25, 2004, 02:39 AM
Thought it was the Barrett that gave the most probs Chris!?? :neener: :D

wizmar
December 25, 2004, 07:54 AM
(1) Tuff guy, --Clint eastwood.
(2) Goof Movie--Pasta western.

Not my Words--As I said Anti-Gun Liberals.

And People can Carry anyway they Want 2nd (A), Use it or Lose It.

Fistful--Thanks for jumping In.

armoredman
December 25, 2004, 09:32 AM
I carried open before there was a CCW law here in AZ. Now there is, so 99% I go concealed. Once in a great while, I don't. Why? It's freakin HOT, man! You wear a covering garment in 120 degree heat! Yikes!
Bearing Arms is enshrined in our Constitution, both Federal and State, and we do so if we feel like it. I could quite legally walk to the corner store carrying my Mosin, buy something, walk back, and have nothing said, but, "Dude, hunting bears today?" Some people don't want to let Uncle Sam and Aunt Janet get thier fingerprints and addy for the CCW permit - no problem, AZ law states carry is leagl when "the weapn or holster are wholly or partially visible." Wear your OWB regular rig, and a vest that covers the top portion - the blissninnies think its a cell phone....
Reasons abound for both styles - use whatever works best for you, and stop dissin those who do things differantly.

entropy
December 25, 2004, 10:11 AM
If I ever get tried of God's Country, (WI), AZ sounds like a good place to move to. Then I could hit the range with armoredman and put some 7.62x54R downrange! :)
IMHO, both open carry and CCW serve to deter criminals, just as marked and unmarked and lo-pro cop cars do. Marked provide a visible patrol presence, and unmarked are a force multiplier in that any Crown Vic, Caprice, etc. could be a cop, and these also allow for surveillance and stake-outs. (As for the make of car, they could be anything these days, SUV's are becoming popular both as patrol and lo-pro vehicles.) When in the presence of someone carrying open, only the most drug-addled or suicidal of ciriminals will act, and CCW will deter some, whereas it also allows for a proper response if it doesn't. ;)

As Robert A Hienlein put it, "An armed society is a polite society"

Smurfslayer
December 25, 2004, 10:13 AM
"1) Does it make you feel like a Tuff Guy...(2) Do you think it makes you more Secure?...(3) Your in the Open and Open to anyone that wants you, they already know you are Armed so there is No suprise? (4) No offense but it makes you look like something out of a Goof Movie.

[SS] If you wanted an open & honest discussion, then what purpose did points 1 and 4 serve, other than to spout off?


Those of Us that are trying to get Politics on our side to Change Laws for the better and Allow us to carry Concealed are being Joked Off by Carry open, there is No reason to do this. So if you want to Carry, Put it under something on your Person, you Know it Just may save your LIFE.

[SS] Your point is valid. Let's start with all police patrol officers. Those uniforms and belts that they carry the guns with are SO gawdy! Cover them up.

Wizmar, you're right. I bow to your superior baiting skills.

Fist:

Sure, we can spout off. Me advocating otherwise would rightfully pointed out as hypocritical from my own typings right here in this thread. Spouting off or ranting has it's place. But this "jihad" against open carry by so called "second amendment supporters" needs to stop. We're not talking about tolerance for someone pointing a gun at you (generally), we're discussing persons wearing holstered handguns. This fight amongst ourselves moves the 'negotiating' position that much farther towards the antis.

"Must we all have the same level of political involvement or awareness in order to shoot the bull on the internet?"

[SS] surely not. However, Wiz said:

"Those of Us that are trying to get Politics on our side to Change Laws for the better"

So, what's wiz doing? lobbying for gun control? I'm asking.


Could I put you in your place by revealing that I am Alan Gottlieb, Larry Pratt, or some other professional RKBA guy, and therefore holier than thou?

[SS] That would certainly depend on your definition of 'my place'. For the sake of civility, let's keep that to PM's ;) And the condescension was not directed at you specifically.

As you are so committed to the cause, perhaps you would help a poor lost soul, and tell me what is an NPS.

[SS] That is an acronym for 'National Park Service'.

Hawkmoon
December 25, 2004, 12:49 PM
Why would anyone Want to carry OPEN, for What reason?

(1) Does it make you feel like a Tuff Guy...(2) Do you think it makes you more Secure?...(3) Your in the Open and Open to anyone that wants you, they already know you are Armed so there is No suprise? (4) No offense but it makes you look like something out of a Goof Movie.

Those of Us that are trying to get Politics on our side to Change Laws for the better and Allow us to carry Concealed are being Joked Off by Carry open, there is No reason to do this. So if you want to Carry, Put it under something on your Person, you Know it Just may save your LIFE.
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You are, of course, entitled both to have your opinion and to express it.That does not make it universally correct.

I can think of two good reasons to carry open:

(1) The Constitution of the United States says I can;

(2) It's much easier than trying to hid a double-stack 1911 under a tee shirt in hot weather.

The more we cave in to the "sensitivities" of the blissninnies and hide our handguns the way pharmacies used to have to hide condums, the less ordinary people will realize that a handgun worn on the belt of a law-abiding citizen is not an object to instill abject terror by its very appearance.

fistful
December 25, 2004, 01:38 PM
oh

wizmar
December 25, 2004, 02:06 PM
Sir:
I am not Directing anything towards anyone Carrying Open, These were Just statements made by people, that are trying to Cut Up the (2nd Amendment), And for Me (Everyone should have the Right to Carry a Gun on His or Her Hip or Concealed)..(If not for GUNS you and I would Not have the Freedom we Now have).

And my Friend: Guns are like a Double edge sword, its the Way they are Used that makes them Legal, and that is where the "Second Amendment Comes In."

By the Way I Like your State :p

OpenRoad
December 25, 2004, 02:59 PM
Because open carry is alot more comfortable. You do what you like and I'll do what I like.

Curare
December 25, 2004, 04:00 PM
I think people should carry open or concealed depending on the perceived threat.

Unless you have a black powder revolver in a holster across your chest most people won't even look twice--they assume you are an LEO if carrying open.

SapperLeader
December 25, 2004, 04:23 PM
Besides all the great reasons mentioned in this thread about education, comfort and its easier, I will give one final reason. To not be a lawbreaker. In some jurisdictions concealed carry may be forbidden or forbidden under certain circumstances. In Virginia one must carry open in restaurants and bars that serve alcohol and cannot carry concealed. If I am carrying concealed(which I do 24/7) and I want to go out to eat, I must remove my cover garment to fall within the law.

RevDisk
December 25, 2004, 04:41 PM
Thought it was the Barrett that gave the most probs Chris!??

Eh, the Barrett was taller than some one of my coworkers. It's hard to conceal a weapon that is taller than you are. Might make a good Oleg poster, though.

armoredman
December 25, 2004, 04:55 PM
Entropy wrote
If I ever get tired of God's Country, (WI), AZ sounds like a good place to move to. Then I could hit the range with armoredman and put some 7.62x54R downrange!
Absolutely, anytime! Couple of GOOD outdoor ranges down here, inclusding one a mile across, with a 1000 yard range....I don't think I can really hit anything with my 91/30 at that range, but someday I am going to try, for grins and giggles!
Curare, I have seen that down here, people carrying BP revolvers open. They were also in cowboy duds, so it fit. The one night I decided to be really weird, I carried my sidearm strong side, and a short sword in a leather scabbard weak side. Now THAT got some looks! :)

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