Gun Safes In Tennessee.


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cslinger
March 3, 2003, 10:34 AM
Ok so I am starting to think seriously about an honest to God, big ole' honkin' safe. This would be for guns and other valuables.

I have everything secured now in such a way to make theft quite difficult but I have very little fire protection and that worries me more than theft.

So what I need is a safe. Well I know I want at least 30 minutes of fire protection and a regular mechanical dial lock.(No key pads etc.)

It has to fit say 10 - 15 long guns and have space for hand guns and some other household paperwork etc. This would give me room to expand my collection later as these specs are bigger than my current needs.

Now here is the kicker. I want to buy it locally. Somewhere in middle TN. The reason being is I don't want to have it shipped and I want to pick it up and install it myself. I don't like the idea of some guy I don't know from Adam knowing I have a safe and where it is and possibly the combination. So I figure I can alleviate that worry with a few stout buddies who have yet to be volunteered and my truck or a UHaul van.

I am looking to spend no more than $1000 if possible. I have checked out a reasonably nice Cannon safe locally for $799 that fits the criteria. Also has the fire seal that bubbles around the seams. It is not a huge safe but bigger than my needs.

Does anybody have any opinions on Cannon Safes?

Does anybody have any opinions on other local places to buy safes. I don't have to have a "BRAND" name. If somebody knows anybody local that makes a good product feel free to let me know.

Thanks
Chris

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Intune
March 3, 2003, 10:43 AM
Sports Authority up in Rivergate has some pretty nice ones in that price range. I don't remember the brand though. I will take a pad and paper and jot some info on the way home tonight. I'll help you move yours if you help me move mine ;)

Betty
March 3, 2003, 10:51 AM
There's a place called "The Safe House" somewhere around here. He does sell at the gun shows sometimes.

I bought my Oxbow Cannon at the gun show from a KY dealer and had it delivered. It's combo key & mechanical dial lock. Mine was around $700 and was an on sale display model.

Intune
March 3, 2003, 10:54 AM
I have some concerns as to where to put mine. thae garage is unsafe. Guys could have all day to work on getting it loose from the concrete and load it up. Dog barking in house won't bother them. Marble entranceway. I guess that I could put a sheet of plywood to dissipate weight? new Brazilian Cherry hardwood. I would have to get the guns into the safe quick if I messed those floors up. She shoots well. Big fat dolly tires maybe?

cslinger
March 3, 2003, 11:05 AM
I'd be happy to help you move your safe, as long as it doesn't involve a flight of stairs. If that is the case then I have a bad back, weak knees, kidney disorder, dizzy spells, sweaty palms....just pick one. :D Actually if you really need the help I would be happy to lend a hand to a fellow gun nut I mean since nobody else seems to want to help us gun folks we have to look out for one another.

The problem I have is worrying about where to put it. I don't know if the floors in our house are up to snuff to holding a 700 pound safe plus however many pounds of firearms and ammo etc.

The main reason I don't want it delivered is that where ever I put it I want it to be relatively unknown that I have one.

I would love to put it in our walk in closet but between lugging that big son of a gun up the stairs and then worrying that it will fall on my head one morning while making coffee somehow I don't think it will come to reside there.

Hey Runt. I have seen the safe you guys have but really didn't pay a whole lot of attention to it. Have you guys been happy with it. Does it allow for you to configure it in differnt ways?

Thanks
Chris

twoblink
March 3, 2003, 11:19 AM
One of the problems with Runt's safe... it's too small... You will never have a safe big enough..

Well, maybe there'll be more room when I get back and remove my guns from their safe..

Intune
March 3, 2003, 11:33 AM
I have weight concerns also. Not mine, the load on the floor! We live in a ranch-style house. There are three stairs up to the front door and then it would be a breeze. Famous last words. We have a bonus room over the garage with stairs leading up to it but I have some real concerns about the weight of it up there. Any experts out there? Would I need braces in the crawl space if I put it on the ground floor? Is a safe anchored in the concrete garage floor real secure?

Intune
March 3, 2003, 11:57 AM
I bet most of my questions have been answered on TFL. However, I can't access that site to search at work. Blocked "weapons" site. Grrrr! That's another thread...

Betty
March 3, 2003, 12:38 PM
I really like my safe. It hasn't fallen through the floor into the crawlspace yet! Most safes, as does this one, have removeable/adjustable shelves. We made sure we got one that was big enough to grow into, and we're bursting at the seams already. :D

twoblink,
What do you mean "when you come back and remove your guns from our safe?" I thought you gave us your M14? Oleg traded it away several months ago.....

:uhoh:





























JUST KIDDING! :p

cslinger
March 3, 2003, 02:47 PM
I have weight concerns also. Not mine, the load on the floor! We live in a ranch-style house. There are three stairs up to the front door and then it would be a breeze. Famous last words. We have a bonus room over the garage with stairs leading up to it but I have some real concerns about the weight of it up there. Any experts out there? Would I need braces in the crawl space if I put it on the ground floor? Is a safe anchored in the concrete garage floor real secure?

Seriously if you do need help I would be happy to oblige. I realize you don't know me from Adam and that I could just be casing your house but that is not the case. Runt and Oleg can vouch for me.

Thanks for the info Runt.

Chris

cslinger
March 3, 2003, 02:50 PM
I have a friend with a Safe anchored in his garge. It is very secure from the point of view of your average everyday burgler.

If somebody plans and knows it is there technically they could just chain it to a good size diesal truck and drag it right out. The key is if they know it is there, the whole reason he and I put that sucker in.

He hasn't complained of rust or climate concerns either. He does have a golden rod or whatever it is called in there though.

Intune
March 3, 2003, 03:56 PM
I will take you up on that offer. I can get the bodies to help, from what I understand it's a ,um, dog to mess with. I just wanna have someone there who has done it before. Having met Oleg and Runt at KCR last Fall, I found them both to be discerning and likable. I could add some more positive attributes that I observed but that would seem like pandering to and gushing about our hosts. Good folks. Perhaps it is I who should provide references. By reading many of your posts both here and on TFL I can tell you that both you and Sheslinger are welcome in our home. I had lunch with my wife today and the safe location was quickly decided upon. I was told where it's gonna go. ;) So you know how to mount one in concrete, eh? :D

cslinger
March 3, 2003, 04:18 PM
I will hook up with my friend and check his safe out. I did not actually bolt to the ground. I just helped with the grunt work. He is currently out of town and I am not sure when his is getting back.

Basically he bolted to both the concrete and to the wall. There was already a small hole for the golden rod power cord.

Drop me an email and we will see if we can set something up.

You should not be too far from the 'slinger household.

Chris

Betty
March 3, 2003, 04:29 PM
Intune, I don't know about cslinger, dude....... :scrutiny:

You don't want him around your guns. He does this "c-c-cool!" bug-eyed, drooly thing and then you have to wrestle your guns back from him. Other than that, he & sheslinger seem like decent folks. :D

Sorry I can't help moving the safe - I'm a little too peewny. But I can supervise! :p

beckrodgers
March 3, 2003, 08:02 PM
hi, there was a used safe in the commercial appeal classified the last couple days I think it was a Heritage 20 to 24 gun for 700$, I bought one 5yrs past best money I ever spent. I am in memphis,tn.

Intune
March 3, 2003, 09:25 PM
Aww man, the drooly thing?! My lab does that when the shotguns come out. He's not gonna try that jump in my lap thing too is he? Arrgg! I'm gonna make sure sheslinger brings the choke collar ;) I went by Sports Acadamy on my way home. They have a green Cannon American Eagle 14 gun 525 lb safe for $799.00 Fire protection is 30 min @1200F. But they also had the exact same safe in a black crinkle-like coating for $599.00! And it had a sign on it to "Hold for Safe House pickup Mon" They have more in stock. Of those two I personally would opt for the black. They also had a red one with 30 min @ 1500F but it had the electronic combo which I heard is easily bypassed and it was $999.00.

Used may be an option, it's not like a safe can get worn out I wouldn't think. Twice the capacity for the same price. I bought my GunVault pistol safe from Safe Hou and it was at a reasonable price. I wonder if he has some nice used ones? Hmmm...

Hardtarget
March 4, 2003, 12:44 AM
I helped my neighbor move in an 800# safe. We used a four wheel dolly...backed the truck close to the front door, built up a ramp level with the threshold and rolled it right in. There were three of us (his brother helped too) it went right to place and nobody got hurt! ...after reading this it sounds easier than it was!
Plan well, work CAREFULLY. Those things can hurt you bad.Good luck.
Mark.

Leatherneck
March 4, 2003, 12:23 PM
Hey guys. As far as fastening it down on a slab, go to the tool rental place and get a hammer drill and bit for the size bolts you intend to use (check @ the safe store). Then measure at least twice;) and drill holes into the floor. There may be a template with the safe. Now fastening the bolts into the slab can be done at least two ways. Traditional is to use lead shields in over-sized holes. Newer method is to buy a tube of epoxy made for the purpose and squirt it along the sides of the bolts after they're in the holes and let the epoxy set up. Either method would require a lot of effort to remove without access inside the safe. I wouldn't recommend putting a concentrated load like a safe over simple 2x10 joists without building up additional support tiers and crossbucks under the load area. If you think humping a safe up stairs, etc. is hard, then imagine trying to extract it from the wrecked LR floor in the crawl space.

Sounds like you guys are setting up a Nashville THR party! Good luck.

TC
TFL Survivor

JohnBT
March 4, 2003, 02:52 PM
I helped a friend move a small jewelry safe from the second floor down to street level way back when. It weighed around 400-500 pounds I'd guess and wasn't too much of a problem using an appliance dolly. (We had a lawyer at the bottom holding the door while we did it.)

My new safe weighs 870 pounds (plus pallet and cardboard and packaging stuff).

The dealer will bring it, take it off the truck, wheel it down 50 feet of grass alley, across 30 feet of sidewalk, straight down 7 seven steps and across 20-some feet of basement floor - all for $150 - sounds good to me. I'll hold the gate and the basement door open for them.

It's not the work that bugs me so much as it is rounding up the truck, the helpers and the appliance truck, and then feeding the guys and having to return the rented and borrowed equipment. The older I get the more I value my time.

John

P.S. - The safe dealers I've talked to have said to drill with the safe in place and then vacuum the hole before lagging the bolts in. Seems like the easiest way - a little messy maybe, but easy.

Intune
March 4, 2003, 03:21 PM
An epoxied safe sure sounds permanent. Sports Acad charges $75. I'm with cslinger on this one. The less that strangers know, the better.

TheOtherOne
March 4, 2003, 03:24 PM
It looks like a bot to me. Just click on the profile and add them to your ignore list until a mod bans them.

Stupid automated spam is spreading to forums now. I see it happening on quite a few anymore.

cslinger
March 4, 2003, 04:03 PM
Edited because the idiot didn't deserve a response.


Huh? What I miss. WHAT I MISS!! I hate being on the other side of the glass wall looking in. :(

Anyway let me know when you want to do this and we will see what we can do. I have a truck I can offer but think it would be better to rent a Uhaul for a day because of the ramp and dolly.

In response to having it delivered I value my time also and would have no problem with doing this with any other appliances. But a safe means you have something of pretty large value that you feel needs a $800-$1000 investment to protect. I know most everybody is probably reasonably honest but I would rather not take the chance. The less people who know about the safes location the better.........course we could kill him when he was finished......nahh too Egyption.

:D

cslinger
March 4, 2003, 04:05 PM
Ya drool on one M1A and one measly P7 and they never let you live it down.

I promise I will stay out of your lap and if I drool too much I will be happy to clean and lightly oil any affected firearms. :)

Chris

Intune
March 4, 2003, 04:20 PM
The "idiot" was a porno site spammer. You get my email Drooler?

cslinger
March 4, 2003, 04:30 PM
I just got your email and replied.

God I hate SPAM. It's worse then real junk mail.

Chris

Oh and yes I am having a slow day at work. :D

JohnBT
March 4, 2003, 10:47 PM
cslinger -

The guys delivering my safe own a gun store and sell gun safes. It's a pretty good bet they know I own guns :)

The truck is unmarked and they don't unwrap the safe until they get it inside. He said they're fast enough with one to make it look like a refrigerator or freezer being delivered on a Friday afternoon.

John

P.S. - Ramp? Get the truck with the lift. Told ya I'm lazy.

cslinger
March 5, 2003, 09:08 AM
By the way, in case I had not said so, thanks for all the replies and info it really helps.

Chris

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