[PMDW]

Here's a question for you... Does anyone here know what's in Glock frames? Obviously it's a polymer, but what kind exactly?

[Marko Kloos]

It's a nylon composite, but I forgot exactly which kind of Nylon.

[JohnBT]

FWIW, somebody told me it was nylon 6 or nylon 6,6.

I'd always thought they were made from recycled Leggos or something. ;)

John

[armoredman]

Leftover six pack rings mixed with seagull poop.

[Lone Star]

Achtung! You forum members vill lissen gut here, as we not repeating zis for common peoples to be reading, ja?

Is actually leftover strudel, mixed mit caffe grounds und stale whipped cream zat iss allowed to freeze und is den ground into particulate matter und formed under great pressure in zecret machinen.

Verstehen Sie, Amerikaners?

Lone Star

[jed]

Look it up in www.glockfaq.com.

[C. H. Luke]

Heard Nylon 6 also..........

[Big Mike]

Yes, Nylon 6, thermoplastic, 6 carbon chains long, polyamide.

[Warner]

Shaken......not stirred! :neener:

Bond, with a Glock?

Ya think?

Nah.

[mfree]

I do believe it's a matrix of hydrogen and carbon atoms :)

And Lone Star, you have it confused. What you describe is the formula for Trabant sheetmeta.... uh, bodywork :)

[TheFederalistWeasel]

Nylon 6 also called Polyamide 6 it’s primarily made from recycled PVC pipe, funny how your handgun was probably some ones sewer line.

[Guns_and_Labs]

I thought I read that it wasn't straight Nylon 6, but a proprietary hybrid polymer version of Nylon 6. I'm sure glockfaq has the answer somewhere...

[PMDW]

Looked around on glockfaq and couldn't find it. It didn't help at all that their search function is broken. Now all I have to figure out is what else they add to the nylon 6. Thanks guys.

[PMDW]

Looked around again and found it.

"Anyway, I did a little research and got a smattering of information on the Glock plastic "formula". One source says "more highly guarded than the Coke formula". From 3 human and 5 technical sources, Glock uses an out-sourced proprietary hybrid polymer mix with a base of Nylon 6."

I guess I'm not getting ahold of any of that in its unmolded form. Oh well.

Anyone know what's in USP frames? :)

[Gabby Hayes]

Anyone know what's in USP frames? Recycled Glock frames from all those kaBOOMs. :neener:

[stzd8]

Say with this issue I wondered what happened if a glock fell on a fire, will it melt like any other plastic stuff out there?

[Preacherman]

From GlockFAQ (http://www.glockfaq.com/generalinfo.htm#polymer):

What is the Glock frame made of?

The Glock frame is made out of a high-tech plastic polymer called nylon 6. Exactly what that means, I don't know. But our resident engineer [MarkCO] was kind enough to provide some explanation:

Commerical price for hi-grade Nylon 6 is about $3.50/lb. Commerical price for hi-carbon steel is about $1.50/lb. Sounds to me like the Glock is actually a better buy. Anyway, I did a little research and got a smattering of information on the Glock plastic "formula". One source says "more highly guarded than the Coke formula". From 3 human and 5 technical sources, Glock uses an out-sourced proprietary hybrid polymer mix with a base of Nylon 6. The frames are cast and offer high strength, wear resistance, abrasion resistance, and good resiliency, good ductility and toughness. Fracture mechanics are excellent with defect ratios below 1. Do not compare to extruded Nylons because it is different. Casting prices range from $3-$50/pound depending on process and intricacy. The Glock is considered highly-intricate due to imbedded metallic components. Offers long term performance at elevated and depressed temperatures. Chemically stable in a majority of environments, attacked directly by strong acids and bases (better than steel actually). UV exposure results in degradation over an extended period of time. 2-3% carbon black virtually eliminates UV degradation and Carbon-Black does not become readily absorbed in Nylons offering higly increased useful life spans. Loss of mechanical properties with 2% Carbon-Black is less than 0.05% on an elevated UV exposure test equivalent to approximately 100 years. Hyrdolytically attacked by water in excess of 120 degrees. Basically, no hot-tubbing with your Glock and you will be fine. Tupperware is not made from Nylon BTW. Hope this answered some questions.
Good Shooting, MarkCO

[Thrust_Per_Squeeze]

The fact that old MarkCo refers to an injection molded part as "cast" leads me to believe he's talking out of his ass.

[DrewH]

Interested in the "carbon black", does that have anything to do with color? Do the green frames have the same percent of carbon black?

[1BLINDREF]

Glock frames are made out of plastic explosives :eek: :neener:

(just kiddin Glock fan boys)

[h-word]

Puppy tears and unicorn giggles?

[CWL]

Doubt there is just 'one' formula.

All manner of additives are used to improve any number of properties deemed beneficial to performance. This is constantly improved-upon. What additives used & in what ratio will be known only to the resin supplier and Glock.

I would bet money that the polymer composite used has been 'tweeked' many times since Gaston pressed his first G17 frame.

[CountGlockula]

Plastic...plain plastic.

[Snagglepuss]

Kittens:scrutiny:

[Ankeny]

The fact that old MarkCo refers to an injection molded part as "cast" leads me to believe he's talking out of his ass.

New troll or old troll under a new name?

[The Lone Haranguer]

The fact that old MarkCo refers to an injection molded part as "cast" leads me to believe he's talking out of his ass.
:rolleyes: Hitting the ground running, are we? :scrutiny:

[Thrust_Per_Squeeze]

occasional reader who read something so ridiculous, he had to sign up to comment on it.

Any mechanical, industrial, or materials engineer who this MarkCO is supposed to be, would instantly smell the BS of anybody referring to injection molding as casting. It's worse than calling a mag a clip.

[Thrust_Per_Squeeze]

TLH, it's called having a life. Personally I got no dog in this, if you're the type to hang onto every word from a guy, because of some supposed authoritative title on the internet, good for you.

[Grizfire]

Nylon 6

-[O=C-CH2-CH2-CH2-CH2-CH2-N-H]-

[MustangCS6]

What materials can be used to bond the plastic mag extension sleeve to the Glock frame?

Rob

[Evenflo76]

I'll go with Wire Nuts and Candy Corn :)

[MustangCS6]

I am trying to find out what materials some of the custom shops use when modifying or reducing the Glock's grip.

So far I'll I can find is Devcon Plastic Welder II which is questionable and Devcon DEVWELD 531 but no place to purchase DEVWELD 531 in the US.

Does anyone here have any experience with bonding materials to the Glock's polymer frame?

[Gun Slinger]

Does anyone here have any experience with bonding materials to the Glock's polymer frame?


Scotch tape and staples. :)


For the OP-


All levity aside; about a year ago one of the posters over on Glocktalk ran a nondestructive IR spec. on his Model 20 frame and it matched Nylon 6,6 very closely.



Here's the link:

http://http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=797151&highlight=frame+nylon