Broomhandle Mauser accuracy


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ETCss Phil McCrackin
December 27, 2004, 11:57 AM
I was watching Joe Kidd over the Christmas holiday and I got to wondering, just how accurate is a Broomhandle W/ stock attached? The BG on the movie was talking like he could put out a gnats eye at 300 yds, is that typical movie bravado or what?

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ACP230
December 27, 2004, 01:48 PM
Mine has been rebarreled from .30 Mauser to 9mm Parabellum.
It isn't too accurate. I think it might have been more accurate in the original caliber.

I shot a 712, the full auto broomhandle once. Only got to run one 20 round magazine through it. The target was the backstop and some old water heaters. Didn't get to check the accuracy. The fun quotient was right up there, however.

Broomhandles were never built as target guns. Winston Churchill found his .30 Mauser Broomhandle a pretty efficient man killer. Against a bunch of tribal warriors in Egypt or the Sudan, he got seven for the 10 rounds in the magazine. One attacker was shot as the muzzle touched him, others at a bit more distance.

Churchill wrote his mother and called the Mauser,
"The best thing in the world." (I think the quote is accurate, but it's been a while since I read Manchester's book on Churchill where the quote is given.)

Lone Star
December 27, 2004, 07:22 PM
ACP230-

The quote was taken from, "The River War", by W.L.S. Churchill. You have to watch what Manchester says, but he got this one right. (I don't know where Manchester said the quote came from; but that's where Churchill originally mentioned it.) The battle was at Omdurman, in the Sudan.

He may have also mentioned it in, "My Early Life", which I haven't read for some years. It was re-released about the time that, "Young Winston" was filmed, and libraries may have copies. Very witty book, too.

Manchester has made some anti-gun comments. I'm mildly surprised that he brought up Churchill's pistol.

Churchill had several other handguns, too. He especially liked a Colt M-1911 that he bought for WWI, and one famous photo of him in a suit in North Africa or at Yalta shows the outline of the gun. His autobiography notes that when WW II began, "I got out my pistols and armed myself."

Lone Star

Peter M. Eick
December 28, 2004, 06:38 PM
I shot a chinese broomy clone that would go full auto on you. It would dump a 20 rnd 9mm magazine and it just would "squirt" the rounds out. AMAZING how fast it happened.

The problem was that the frame was for a 45acp and the upper was a 9mm. The sear did not catch. I liked the gun though.... (but it went back to the gunstore in about 20 minutes!)

Lone Star
December 28, 2004, 11:50 PM
I've only seen one of these fired, some 20 years ago. I still recall the muzzle flash, a great ball of fire like unto a photo flash! (But more red-orange). It was the usual 7.63mm, fired, I believe, with Remington factory ammo.

Dr. Roy Chapman Andrews noted the high popularity of the Mauser among Chinese warlords in the 1920's and '30's, during his Central Asiatic Expeditions for the American Museum of Natural History. (He favored Colt .38 revolvers, himself.)

Lone Star

Gordon
December 28, 2004, 11:57 PM
I just sold my restored and converted to 9mm with a Lothar Walther barrel broom for more than $1000 to some lucky guy in San Diego. I used to be able to REGULARLY ring a 14" gong at 200 meters with the stock on and the rear sight set to 200 with UZI brown tip ammo off a bench. Jeff Cooper is currently fooling with one. I would say they are VERY accurate as are Lugers up to 250 meters in my experience fooling with them for 40 years. ;)

Wildalaska
December 29, 2004, 01:33 AM
I can riddle a sillohette at 100 yards with my 1912 all original vintage broomie (with the stock on of course)...

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pbhome71
December 29, 2004, 01:42 AM
I heard that C96 is one of a few pistol that you can attach a stock to it without being a SBR. Is this true? If it is true, there has to be a catch somewhere.

-Pat

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