What action do you prefer?


Alan Fud
January 1, 2005, 06:33 PM
... and why?

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January 1, 2005, 06:42 PM
After all those rounds I've shot learning the DA/SA transition, I've gotten pretty use to it.

January 1, 2005, 07:12 PM
Of the guns I own, DAO is my prefered model.

Simple, safe and smooth sided. No controls to fiddle with and nothing to go wrong.
That being said, I'd have no problem with a decocker.

January 1, 2005, 07:39 PM
I do most of my shooting with a double/single. I do prefer a single action on the target range however. :)

January 1, 2005, 07:52 PM
I prefer DAO, in certain brands. S&W's DAO's are the best for me since the slide is cocked half way by the first 1/2" movement of the slide. That results in a short, consistant trigger pull. It's like shooting a DA revolver, but with a shorter trigger.

I had a DAO Sig P229 .40 S&W and absolutely hated it. The DAO trigger on them is the same as the first shot in a TDA. I've heard Beretta's are the same, so they are useless IMO, too.

The next action I would prefer if it was not a S&W DAO would be a TDA. Last would be the single action.

January 1, 2005, 09:23 PM
SIngle action.

No DA/DAO can duplicate that trigger pull. Sweet.

I'm much faster and more accurate with Single Action.


January 1, 2005, 11:43 PM
I voted TDA. It's what I started on and am most comfortable with.

R.H. Lee
January 1, 2005, 11:45 PM
SA. I'm seriously thinking of getting a 1911 in 9mm just for the trigger.

deputy tom
January 2, 2005, 12:21 AM
SA.I shoot them the best.tom. :cool:

January 2, 2005, 12:31 AM
SA. I love the trigger on my 1911.

January 2, 2005, 02:00 AM
SA, it's what I shot growing up, and when I really got into handguns it's what I trained with. After a couple years of 1911 shooting, my first time trying a Beretta on DA/SA resulted in terrible accuracy on the DA shot. I now own a couple DA/SA autos and I've gotten better about the transition, but SA is still the preference.

January 2, 2005, 03:50 AM
SA. I'm seriously thinking of getting a 1911 in 9mm just for the trigger.

Get a CZ75SA, its a much better gun.

Black Majik
January 2, 2005, 06:10 AM

Cuz that's what the 1911 comes in. :)

January 2, 2005, 06:22 AM
SA. I'm seriously thinking of getting a 1911 in 9mm just for the trigger.

I did just that. :D


Big K
January 2, 2005, 06:39 AM
single action for the triger pull

January 2, 2005, 07:10 AM
I also voted single action for the same reasons as the others.

Alan Fud
January 2, 2005, 10:13 AM
... I had a DAO Sig P229 .40 S&W and absolutely hated it. The DAO trigger on them is the same as the first shot in a TDA. I've heard Beretta's are the same, so they are useless IMO, too ... Sounds like something I might be interested in. Even though I own nearly two dozen S&W autoloaders, I never warmed up to their DAO models. Looks like I need to look into the SIGs and Beretta's for my DAO needs.

January 2, 2005, 11:10 AM
How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love SA autos.
After years of shooting SIG's, (P226 & P220), I was resigned to being a decent pistolero. Even with professional coaching and many thousands of rounds sent downrange, the proverbial "one ragged hole" continued to elude me. I shot, qualified and carried TDA's and came to believe I was destined to be just a so-so shot.
Then one fateful day I decided to return to the revolvers I had shot so well as a young man. I got a S&W 629PP. Suddenly I was pretty good again. How could this be I asked myself? After all, aren't SIG's the best and most accurate? What about all of those posts by Sig fans writing of 1-hole groups at 25 yds? I decided I was a wheelman and swapped my P220 for another Smith, a 625.
All seemed well with the world. In fact I even started competing in our local police pistol league. I, with my 625, and almost everyone else with their duty or personal semi's.
The came requalification day.
First I shot 50 rds. from the 625. Results: 48 in the 10-ring, mostly X's. I was about to qualify with the P226, confident I would shoot at least the minimum of 35 in the 7-ring or better when ChuckB asked if I wanted to try out his new Springfield Loaded. I loaded and shot 6, all X's.
Having run only 14 rds. through 1911's in my life, including the above 6, I asked ChuckB if I could try to qualify with his Springfield. The result: After the first 15 rds. the rangemaster put up another target because he wanted to make sure I was really putting them into the same hole in the X. He changed targets at the 35 rd mark for the same reason. 50 rds. all in the X for a perfect requalification score of 100.
On December 30th. I swapped my P226 for a Kimber Stainless Target II.
I like SIG's and still have one left. They are reliable, easy to strip and clean, and hold up well to years of use and carry. It's just that I have more fun hitting what I aim at.

January 2, 2005, 11:38 AM
i shoot um all my 2 carrys guns are one DAO and the other Sa/Da i love my Sa for range work but my 1911 is little to heavy for me right now to carry ...

So i guess ill vote single action

January 2, 2005, 12:00 PM
For what purpose? Imo, a pistol is a tool...so what's the job?

Carry or home defense? I prefer DA/SA like with my CZ's and Sigs (although the P226RDAK DAO is nice also).

Comp/Target/Range? I prefer SA 1911 (I'm more accurate with my SA Kimber Team Match II than I am even with my Sig P220ST or P226ST).

Many other DAO pistols seem nice to me as well, e.g. the XD (I know, technically it's classified as a SA), but the ability to smooth out the trigger seems to be much more limited, not so much because of the DAO mechanism itself, but because of the overall mechanics of the rest of the pistol (e.g. Glock, XD, etc.).

So I guess, for me, it depends on the job at hand.

January 2, 2005, 01:31 PM
My vote is for th SA. I seem to be able shoot a little better with that type of trigger system. But I do love my Sigs with the DA\SA.

January 2, 2005, 08:36 PM
I voted DAO,i like the trigger on my S&W 9VE sigma even if it's not quite a true DAO.It feels very close to the triggers on my smith revolvers.

January 2, 2005, 08:54 PM
Well, since I treat my CZ75B compact like an SA, I think I'd have to say SA. The trigger's just better. HOWEVER, I like having the DA mode there as backup, even if it's got that gosh-awful long reach. Light strike, all I have to do is pull the trigger again.

That said, when I shot glock models 20 and 21 lately, I learned that I also like that DAO striker trigger, and it felt *nothing* like what I've read on here :) To each their own, I suppose.

Once I finish paying off my 66-1 I'll find out how a DA revolver feels, and if I'll be treating it as an SA at the range, too.

Doug Add
January 3, 2005, 10:40 AM
I voted DA/SA because that is what I'm carrying right now. However, I have carried a Browning Hi Power, and hope to get a 1911 one of these days. Next time you run the poll, I may just vote with the majority!

January 3, 2005, 11:19 AM
SA, because I love 1911's.

January 4, 2005, 05:47 AM
I shall list my pistol of choice.

The best DAO of all time is undoubtedly the FN Forty-Nine. The RSS system obviously give the option of restriking a round, but it also ensures that the entire system is at rest until the trigger is pulled. After a short distance, the pistol is cocked, yet maintains its pull weight all the way until the fairly crisp release.
After that, all you have is a 9mm or .40S&W weapon with a longer sight radius than a CZ75B sending a bullet hurtling through the bullseye over and over and over again. Oh, when it wear out, you just send it in, have the slide rails replaced and start anew.

January 4, 2005, 12:46 PM
So where does the Glock's Safe Action fall?

I voted for single action because it's what I shoot on the range. The first shot fired in personal defense is most critical and I see no reason to waste it with a long DA pull.

Black Snowman
January 4, 2005, 01:10 PM
I started on a DA/SA revolver when learning to shoot handguns. For many years my primary experiance with handguns was with SA revolvers. When I bought my 1st handgun I wanted a consistant trigger pull and ended up with a Glock.

I still like a consistant trigger pull. I do like DA/SA guns for their versatility and "second strike" capability. I own SAO and DA/SA but no DAO guns. SA is generally my preference and what I voted but I can and do shoot both SA and DA.

January 4, 2005, 11:29 PM
ccw/off duty, single action

On duty double action, with thumb safety

January 5, 2005, 10:52 AM
In an ideal world, CZ would offer the P-01/PCR in a Kahr-like light Double Action that provided second strike capability.

But in all honesty, I guess I'm just not good enough to see a world of difference. I grew up with 1911s, have carried them as well as a Glock, a SIG, a Kahr, several CZs... Though like everyone, I have my preferences, I for carry use I just prefer a gun have certain ergonomics, weight, reliability... things like that are more important to me than absolutely how short or light the trigger is.

January 5, 2005, 11:21 AM
SA, DAO or Safe Action. While the DA/SA transition can be learned given enough practice, it seems like an unnecessary burden given that there are other action types out there.

I'm a single-action fan myself, but anything that pulls the same each time would be fine.

- Gabe

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