(TN) Attempted Carjacking Turns Deadly (for the carjacker...)


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Drizzt
December 30, 2002, 07:02 PM
Attempted Carjacking Turns Deadly

Metro Police say an attempted carjacking turned deadly when the man being robbed turned his gun on the suspects.

It happened early Sunday morning at the Golden Gallon on Haywood Lane in South Nashville. Police say two men tried to carjack the driver of a Ford Explorer.

But the driver of the Explorer pulled out a gun and shot the suspect, who died at the scene. The other carjacking suspect was not hurt and has been arrested.

Police say the driver did have a valid permit to carry a gun, but they are still investigating to see if any charges will be filed against him

http://www.newschannel5.com/news/0212/29/carjack.htm

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December 30, 2002, 07:07 PM
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interesting,last time in Nashville--I ran a red light--didn't like what I sensed.
Carjackings picking up here--and other stuff

Be alert people

El Tejon
December 30, 2002, 08:56 PM
Maybe he was running away from his hotel bill in Nashville?:D

Wait for more info, but sounds like the right person won the fight.

faustulus
December 30, 2002, 10:49 PM
Other carjacker better be glad Metro Police weren't around, they shoot first and don't bother to ask questions.

David Scott
December 31, 2002, 08:30 AM
Hello, operator, give me Nashville, Tennessee.
Help me nail the bastard trying to steal my car from me.
My Ford is only two years old, won't you help me please?
[i]Take your stance, align the sights, hold your breath and squeeze![.i]

Drizzt
December 31, 2002, 09:17 AM
Carjacker shooting "justifiable homicide"

State law allows citizens to defend selves

Nancy Amons

December 30, 2002

B.J. Brown, the man who shot and killed a suspected carjacker in Antioch Sunday morning, will not face charges from Metro Police. The shooting has been classified as justifiable homicide.

Police say Brown was parked at the Golden Gallon off Haywood Lane when one of the carjack suspects jumped into the back seat of his Ford Explorer and threatened to kill him.

Police say Brown grabbed a .44 caliber revolver from his floorboard, jumped out, and shot the suspect in his backseat through the window. The suspect died at the scene.

Legal expert David Raybin says state law is clear that Tennesseans have the right to defend themselves.

"Self defense will allow you to use deadly force to protect yourself or a loved one, if you are reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury," said Raybin.

Raybin says the shooting would not be justified if the suspect had been fleeing. That's what happened in the case of the second carjacking suspect, 20-year-old David Lee Moore. He ran away and was caught by police.

"When they are running away and are no longer a threat, you cannot pursue them and kill them," said Raybin.

The dead suspected carjacker was identified by police Monday as Jerry Williams Jr., of Wallace Road, a 25-year- old with a police record, including two aggravated assault charges. Detectives now believe Williams was unarmed. Raybin says that doesn't matter. What matters is what the victim thought.

B.J. Brown declined to talk on camera. He told me Channel 4 he was sorry that it happened, but says, he had no doubt they intended to kill him.

"State law says you can be reasonably mistaken. Some folks say they'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6," said Raybin.

Raybin says a different set of laws apply if someone's breaking into your home. "You don't have to wait until they get inside. You can shoot to kill to protect yourself and your family."

http://www.wsmv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1065715&nav=1TcRD7WI

Drizzt
December 31, 2002, 09:24 AM
Carjackers Surprised By Victim With Gun

A couple of would-be carjackers got more than they bargained for in South Nashville. Their victim had a gun of his own.

It happened at the Golden Gallon convenience store on Haywood Lane. Billy J. Brown had been inside to get a snack. When he climbed back in his car, one of the carjackers jumped in the seat behind them and told Brown to drive.

That's when Brown pulled out his own gun, and shot and killed the carjacker. The other carjacker tried to run away, but police later caught him.

"He came back here to police headquarters and during the interview, he gave statements to the effect he and his friend were out, and robbery was one of the topics they were looking into," said Detective Todd Watson of Metro Police. "The one suspect that was shot was wanting to get money to bail out a friend or a relative."

Brown wasn't charged although the District Attorney's office will likely review the case. Brown is a former officer with the Tennessee Defense Force. He also ran for the 59th District seat in the state House of Representatives this past November.

http://www.newschannel5.com/news/0212/30/carjacking.htm

Leatherneck
December 31, 2002, 10:44 AM
Police say Brown grabbed a .44 caliber revolver from his floorboard, jumped out, and shot the suspect in his backseat through the window.
First, I agree the good guy won. But shooting a BG in the back seat from outside? No duty to retreat at that point? HMMMMM...
TC
TFL Survivor

Preacherman
December 31, 2002, 11:49 AM
Sounds like Tennessee has a de facto situation a bit like our de jure situation here in Louisiana. Thanks to a pro-gun Governor, a law was passed here back in the '90's that legalized the use of lethal force to stop a car-jacking. Effectively, the car was considered to be an extension of one's home, with all rights of self-defence in the home applied to the car. Also, even without a CCW, carry of a loaded weapon in the car (concealed or not) was authorized. After a few car-jackers got popped on the job, it's amazing how that particular crime rate plummeted... :D

faustulus
December 31, 2002, 06:47 PM
If I remember correctly there is a speical provision in TN law covering carjackings and kidnappings.

Gila Jorge
December 31, 2002, 06:55 PM
David Scott: that was priceless. You definetely
have a way with words. Glad to see the good guys win without a public thrashing by trashmongers.

Blackhawk
December 31, 2002, 07:19 PM
Good for Brown! :D

This will discourage a LOT of carjackers!

spacemanspiff
December 31, 2002, 07:30 PM
seeing how the criminal entered the vehicle BEHIND his intended victim, the potential victim could only assume the death threat was real and his life was indeed endangered. sure, he got out of the car and shot, but did he know if the attacker had a gun in his lap or not?

IMHO, entirely justifiable. however, situational awareness can always be increased, no matter how alert you are.

Jim V
December 31, 2002, 08:43 PM
Well done.

PATH
December 31, 2002, 09:12 PM
Some stories truly do have happy endings.

El Tejon
December 31, 2002, 09:13 PM
Let's hope there is no Problem #2 from the civil or admin angle.:scrutiny:

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