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Sisco
January 6, 2005, 01:31 PM
My son is soon to be to owner of a Savage 10FP LE in 308 so I better get ready to load.
Using the search function, I see that Varget is a pretty popular powder along with H4895. I might go pick up one of Hodgdons "Experimental" packs of powder, the Hunter pack has four 4oz bottles of Varget, H-4895, H-414, H-4350.

The rifle's main puropse is informal long range paper punching, 100-400 yards. I'd appreciate some input on loads, primers, bullet brands & weights.

Thanks in advance!

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ocabj
January 6, 2005, 01:51 PM
Sierra Match King 175 grain BHTP
Hodgdon Varget 44.6 grains
Lapua Brass
CCI BR-2 Primer
Trimmed to 2.005"
Hornady Match Neck Sizer, .334" bushing, shoulder bumped
2775fps cool bore, 2825fps hot bore out of Savage 10FP, 26" barrel, 1 in 10"

This holds between .5 to 1MOA. I've shot it between 100 and 600 yards. 11.5MOA up elevation to get from 100 to 600 yards. Granted, it may perform slightly different in your rifle, so YMMV.

I've had good accuracy with 42.0gr-42.2gr of H4895 and 175gr SMKs @ 100 yards. I never chrono'd those loads though.

Black Snowman
January 6, 2005, 02:10 PM
Speer Moly coated 168 gr HPBT
TZ military brass (Israli), trimmed with the cheap Lee trimmer
CCI Large Rifle primer
Lee full lenth sizing die
Lee bullet seater
No crimp
44.2 gr of Varget
Between quarter inch and 3/4 inch 3 shot groups at 100 yards from my A-Bolt Eclipse.
Between half inch and 1 inch 3 shot groups at 100 yards from my CZ 550 Varmint Laminated.

I'm not a good enough shot to post good groups with larger strings, but it's not the gun or ammo's fault, that's for certain :)

If transitioning between moly coated and uncoated bullets it can take 5-10 rounds for the groups to settle back down but they only double in size at the worst in my experiance.

Poodleshooter
January 6, 2005, 06:31 PM
Remington bulk packed 150-165gr bullet with Remington brass,CCI primers and IMR-4064 are my favorites for a good high density load.

Sisco
January 6, 2005, 06:57 PM
I notice so far you're all using CCI primers. Will Winchester's work as well? Reason I ask is because I have several hundred of them.

ocabj
January 6, 2005, 09:06 PM
I use CCI BR-2 primers because the top primers for match grade accuracy are CCI Benchrest and Federal Gold Match. I do use Winchester primers for everything else (handguns, AR, milsurps), but when I'm going for tight groups, I go with CCI BR primers.

Mark whiz
January 6, 2005, 09:41 PM
That's an EXCELLENT toy your son is getting! :D I'm so jealous. ;)

Try 168gr Sierra Matchkings with 42.5 to 43gr of 4895 (Hodgdon or IMR) or 44 to 45gr of IMR 4064. Both are tried & true .308 loads for HighPower competition............especially when shooting less than 600yds.

Sisco
January 6, 2005, 09:59 PM
Our toy, his idea.
We had been to the range with our custom 10/22's and on the way home he said he wanted to build up a large caliber long range rifle. As he put it "Something I can shoot milk jugs from 400 yards with". Got tired of plinking 12ga hulls at 100 yds I guess.

I suggested the Savage, showed him pics on their website. Since he didn't have enough money for it now and planned to use his tax refund to build a new computer I told him I'd go 50/50 with him on it.

Found this particular rifle here at THR in the classifieds, $400 NIB.
Sent an order off to MidwayUSA this afternoon for a box of 150gr Nosler balistic tips (on sale, $10), a weaver scope base and a set of dies. Wanted a Lee case length guage & shell holder but they don't stock them for .308 Win! (???)

Bad Flynch
January 6, 2005, 11:39 PM
Try this territory:
SRA 175gr MK bullet
WW cases
WW WLR primer
Reloder-15 42.5-44 grains for powder
Seat the bullet as close to the lands as the magazine will allow. My Savage 10FP will allow 0.070" longer than SAAMI (total 2.070"). Sometimes my Savage rifles really like the bullets "hard-to" on the lands. You really want to work up the load from lower down, but my rifle tolerates this with no problems. The best load for me accuracy-wise, so far, has been 42.6 grains of powder. CCI-BR2 and Fed210M primers are not always better or more consistent than plain Winchester. You just gotta try and see.

dakotasin
January 7, 2005, 12:13 AM
168 hornady a-max, cci-br-2 primers, lots o' varget. have shot this load to 1000 yards before. works great for me.

kimbernut
January 7, 2005, 12:45 PM
WLR and Fed210 show no difference in point of impact out of my Rem.Mod.7 in 7mm-08 with all other ingredients of the recipe identical.

ping
January 7, 2005, 01:55 PM
I have a Savage 12BVSS .308 and I am having extraordinary luck with the following:

Sierra Match King 168Gr HPBT
Varget Powder 43.5 gr
WLR pimer
Remington & IMI brass

I am seating to sammi spec's right now. Getting 1/4 to 1/2 moa at 100 yards.

Sam Adams
January 7, 2005, 07:41 PM
168 hornady a-max, cci-br-2 primers, lots o' varget. have shot this load to 1000 yards before. works great for me.

What is "lots o' varget?" How about some number of grains, or a range?

What gun?

What is "great?" How many MOA?

dakotasin
January 8, 2005, 02:25 PM
sam- i rarely give exact powder specs for a few reasons. first, it is unlikely that the powder charge that works for my gun will work for yours. second, in this particular 308, the load i use, the powder charge is above any maximum i've found in any manual - yet there are no pressure signs in my rifle for at least another grain and a half or so. part of this excessive powder charge has to do w/ how long the bullets are seated, i'm sure. basically, there are just too many variables to consider to think that a charge in one rifle will work well in all/many rifles. maybe, maybe not, and maybe it would be dangerous.

that said... in all the 308's i've worked w/, they have all responded very nicely to varget when 150's, 165's, and 168's are used. so, for any 308, i always start w/ varget (because in the 308 i usually run 165's in hunting rifles and 168's in target guns because that seems to be a happy medium between velocity and performance at various ranges).

this particular rifle (my 1000 yard gun) is a remington 700 vls, 26" barrel. moa also varies depending on any of a number of conditions, but i fully expect to be able to ventilate a few prairie dogs in excess of 1000 yards this summer. accuracy is not a problem. it has already done in a few dogs in excess of 800 yards, so 1000 is coming soon.

don't know how familiar you are w/ prairie dogs, but they are essentially the size of a 20 ounce coke bottle - maybe a little fatter. i guess they are as tall as a 20 ounce coke bottle, and as fat as a 20 ounce pepsi bottle.

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