[66gt350]

Does anyone have a safe by this company? Or know of someone who does? I would like to get any opinions, good and bad on any experience. I am looking at getting the 40" wide with 2300°F fire protection. And they have the best price that I can find for this size and security.

TIA
Rob

[CB900F]

66GT350;

I'd be very interested to see just how they are rating their fire protection. If you would, please post the details on that. I'm interested in comparing their rating & test methods with the Underwriter's Laboratory 1 hour fire standard for firearms containers. In fact, I'd suggest you do the same.

900F

[66gt350]

900F,

I couldn't find too much on their website that deals with the fire protection. They give one graph (http://www.homelandsafes.com/pyroblocker.php) on their website, but it doesn't even go up to 2300°F. so I guess that should throw up some red flags!!

66gt350

[Valkman]

The 40" wide level VII costs $2475 and has that fire rating?? Hmmm. I think I'd call them and ask who did the testing and if the safe was standing during the test. My 42" National Security cost $4200 and has a rating of 1638 degrees for 45 minutes.

By that graph, it looks like if the temp did get to 2300 the inside temp would go over 400.

[CB900F]

Fella's;

And, over 350f interior temp. is considered fail point in any reputable test. Just as a reference, I currently have two safes in the store that are 48" W X 72" H X 27" D. Both are 2100 lbs. Both meet the U.L. 1 hour standard of 1750 f for one full hour, every minute spent at that temp. The interior temp of mine will typically run about 270 - 280 at the end of the test cycle.

Interior configuration is 3 E-Z out bays of 16 ea., for 48 slots. This is not the high-density interior. Cost? In my shop, $4500.00 for the one. The other's sold, I'll deliver later this week I think. Depends on the temps outside, predicted in the deep negative numbers.

So, you see, I can give you better thermal protection for very little more money than the big name safes. Then there's burglary protection. Mine have plate steel on all 5 sides except the door. The door is plate steel that's twice a thick as the sides. Sides, 1/4" A36 high tensile plate. Door 1/2" of the same. The insulation is indeed concrete. Then the interior wall is - more steel. THEN, there's the interior fabric which is held on by the glue. It's just a little more difficult to force entry into one of mine. Oh, then there's the bank-level thermally activated relockers. Mine meet the B level burglary protection standard. Actually, they exceed it. One thing to consider, 1/4" thick walls are the minimum required to meet the standard. How thick are the side walls, top, & floor, of your safe?

900F

[mototard]

cb900f
I'm in the market for a safe. I need one bad. I have a small one (Fort Knox), its way to small. You seem to have alot more knowledge about them than I do. Would it be to much trouble for you to give me a rundown on which safes are the best. There are so many brands out there I dont have a clue what to look for. Thanks