Used Gun Rating Question


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Bob79
January 13, 2005, 12:30 PM
First, let me say I do understand that one person may rate a gun different from another person, as obviously opinions vary. But I'm fairly new to understanding how the percentage relates to actual gun condition. And I'm more interested in revolvers, but I don't know if there is any difference or not in rating revos vs. semis. So lets ask specifically:

If a gun has never been fired, but has lets say a slight cylinder ring, or very minor wearing just from handling, what would the gun rate assuming everything else is superb? 95 or 98?

If a gun has been fired very limited (approx 100 or so rounds) and has no wear outside of normal spots (like cylinder ring/slide rails), and is in otherwise great shape, what do you think it would be? 90+?

Again, I know this is a highly opinion based topic, but since I don't know too much about ratings I would greatly appreciate your opinions :D . Especially paying attention to my two "examples"......and/or if you have something else you'd like to add that would be helpful I'd be greatful as I'm trying to make a decision about something.

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waktasz
January 13, 2005, 12:49 PM
For most quality guns even firing a few hundred rounds thru it would leave it in 95% + condition IMO, as long as it has been well lubed and is now fully cleaned up.

Fastlane
January 13, 2005, 02:11 PM
Bob79:

Thanks for asking that question. I have seen guns that I would rate as 85% that the owner would rate as 95 or higher. For example if the gun has bluing missing or the stocks are damaged how can you rate it at 95%? Dose the age of the gun cause the rating to go higher or lower? :confused:

stans
January 13, 2005, 09:10 PM
Generally speaking, age does not affect the rating, only the price for each rating. When it comes to selling or trading a gun, the receiver will usually rate the gun very low, knowing it is in better condition and worth more than they are offering. Sellers sometimes over rate guns or just inflate the price. Not everyone is a crook. A couple of years ago I got an honest 98%+ S&W 29-3, nickel plated, for $375. This was from a private seller at a gun show, not a dealer.

Standing Wolf
January 13, 2005, 09:19 PM
For example if the gun has bluing missing or the stocks are damaged how can you rate it at 95%?

I certainly couldn't, but there are people whose dishonesty allows them to say anything and everything. I believe we need to call these people precisely what they are: liars.

JohnBT
January 13, 2005, 09:46 PM
You guys grade hard.

I like the color prints with descriptions in the front of the Blue Book. Their explanation of the grading system primarily rates the percentage of the finish remaining while considering the overall condition.

For instance, the blurb under the pic of the 95% S&W Model 34 (1954) says in part... "minor barrel muzzle wear, indicating holster use and a more noticeable wear line between the cylinder lock cutouts. Careful observation also reveals slight wear on frame and cylinder edges. Bluing is still bright, with several small areas of slight discoloration. Slightly worn walnut grips."

I have a couple of guns that have been shot off and on for 30 years that look better than the picture of the Model 34 in the Blue Book. But they haven't been in a holster either.

I don't have the figures handy, but I once calculated the surface area of k-frame and then figured how many square inches I'd have to rub off to get a new gun down to, say, 95%. It was a lot more than I thought.

John

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