[Sergeant Bob]

Don't ask Chief Charles Moose

My famous local police chief, Charles "Still waiting for the white van" Moose, seems to have little time to take care of business here at home.

Montgomery County, Md.'s top cop is busy slapping together a tell-all book, polishing off a movie deal, and preaching his purported "crisis management" wisdom abroad.

Moose's highly sought-after wisdom is, of course, derived from his gross bungling of last fall's sniper attacks by accused killers John Muhammad and Lee Malvo. But never mind his Keystone Kop hunt for the wrong vehicle while the snipers' Chevy Caprice (spotted by several witnesses and stopped at least 10 times for license-plate checks during the shooting spree) got away. Pay no heed to his oversight of nonsensical roadblocks, botched hotline operations, and the deadly politically correct assumption that the snipers were crazed white militants in a non-existent white box truck


Michelle Malkin (http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31358)

Unbelieveable!

[gun-fucious]

and the washington post editorializes that
"so that the truth can be told"
Moose should be permitted to profit


:mad:

[gun-fucious]

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Ethics panel to revisit Moose's book deal
http://www.gazette.net/200310/montgomerycty/county/146736-1.html

by Manju Subramanya
Staff Writer
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Mar. 5, 2003

Police chief allowed to keep teaching post

Police Chief Charles A. Moose can keep his teaching job at Montgomery College, but the county Ethics Commission has yet to rule on his controversial book deal and several other ventures related to last year's sniper killings.

The commission, which met for two hours with the police chief Monday night, plans to resume its talks at a specially convened meeting March 13, associate county attorney Edward Lattner said. No decision is expected before then.

Moose is requesting a waiver from the county's strict ethics law for the deal he signed in January with Dutton Books, a division of Penguin Group (USA), and his sale of the movie rights to his life story.

In addition, he is seeking permission to run a private consulting firm on crisis management that he started with his wife when he was police chief of Portland, Ore., and reopened in December.

Ethics rules forbid county employees from using the prestige of their office for personal gain.

Moose has taught criminal justice students at Montgomery College for the past two years, but never sought permission from the ethics commission for the part-time job. He acknowledged the oversight, but said it was unintentional and he did not mean to hide anything.

The commission also decided that Moose does not need its permission to serve as commander of the Air National Guard's 113th Security Forces Squadron at Andrews Air Force base because military or guard duty is exempt from the ethics law, commission chairwoman Elizabeth K. Kellar said Tuesday.

Moose's case marks a first for the ethics commission, which is not used to approving high-profile book and movie deals.

"Many of our requests are usual -- police officers looking at security guard positions," said Kellar, who has been with the commission for four years. "In my time at the commission, I have never seen something quite like this."

The commission questioned Moose for two hours Monday night in a meeting closed to the public and media. Raised voices at the hearing could be heard by reporters waiting in the corridor outside the conference room in Rockville.

At one point Moose was heard saying, "I'll quit Montgomery College if that's the case."

At another point he said, "I didn't break the rules. I didn't know what the rules are."

When he emerged from the commission meeting at 10 p.m. Moose had a testy exchange with reporters.

Asked whether he planned to seek another job -- like the Prince George's police chief job, which he reportedly sought last month -- Moose said, "I am the police chief in Montgomery County. I am not looking for work. Make that clear in big, bold words."

Moose said he did not see any conflict between the book and his job.

"This is not a training manual," he said, referring to the commission's denial in 1994 of a county department head's request to write a manual. "These are the memoirs of my life story."

The chief has promised to donate a portion of the book profits to three charities.

Moose was dressed in civilian clothes -- a navy blue suit and tie -- and accompanied by his wife, Sandy, who also spoke to the commission. The county's chief administrative officer, Bruce Romer, also attended the meeting, representing the solid backing Moose has from County Executive Douglas M. Duncan (D).

Duncan reiterated his support for Moose's book venture, saying in a statement released before the meeting: "The chief's story of that experience, as well as his life's work in law enforcement, is a compelling one, and I continue to feel strongly that he should have the opportunity to tell it."

Moose's employment contract gives him broad latitude to take up outside jobs in teaching, training, consulting and speaking engagements, Duncan spokesman David Weaver said. However, the jobs do require ethics commission approval.

Duncan has said he will help the chief navigate any legal or ethical hurdles. County Council President Michael L. Subin (D-At large) of Gaithersburg, who has stated that the county's ethics laws are too narrowly drawn, has also promised to sign a waiver for Moose if Duncan asks.

Appearing on WTOP radio's Ask the Chief program Tuesday morning, Moose said he realized his situation is unusual for the ethics commission.

"Sometimes different is bad and sometimes different is just different. I hope in this case it's the latter," Moose said.

Moose said his consulting venture, "Two Moose -- A Caring Partnership," was simply a transfer of a business he and his wife began in Portland, Ore., in 1997-98, where he was police chief for six years before coming to Montgomery in 1999.

"She filed the paperwork to transfer it to Maryland," he said of his wife. "Timing is everything. The timing is probably awkward." The venture has reportedly made no money.

As for the book deal with Dutton, Moose said it was not something he had planned.

Moose said he was astounded by the number of publishing offers that came his way after the October arrests of the sniper suspects.

"I threw them all away. I thought it was a joke from the staff," he said on WTOP. But given the national and international interest, Moose said he agreed to a book proposal, and the deal was struck.

"I didn't ask for it," Moose said. "I will make sure it doesn't give me a big head, it doesn't ruin my marriage."

Asked by a caller if he had given any thought to the prospect that the book -- set for publication in the fall -- would prejudice the October trial of sniper suspect John Allen Muhammad, Moose replied, "Please understand that I may be many things but I am a police officer. I am not going to mess up this case."

"I hope other people are as concerned," he said in a dig at The Washington Post, which is writing its own book.

[Leatherneck]

So who's minding the shop, Chief?:rolleyes:

TC
TFL Survivor

[Tall Man]

The unavoidable byproduct of Affirmative Action.

Cream still rises to the top, but it is being crowded out by those with special dispensation in hand.

It's sad to think how badly Mr. Moose and the dominant media needed the shooters (I refuse to call them snipers) to be white men.

Who said political correctness ain't deadly?

TM

[Carlos Cabeza]

He'll need a good editor for average people to understand it !

[IRONFIST]

That guy was nothing but trouble whem he was OUR chief of police in Portland, Oregon. He had anger management issues that required extensive, mandated counseling and was reprimanded for the terrible way he treated the employees around him. He also has some racial issues. I recall reading about one incident where he verbally assaulted a female salesperson because he was in line and was in a hurry to leave. He screamed at her, accused her of discrimination, made disparaging comments about HER race(asian) and generally acted as a child. He eventually left her in tears. The store management and the salesgirl complained to the poilice department and he later grudgingly apologized. When I heard he was leaving my first thought was "Good riddance to bad rubbish", I am just sorry that he landed in your city.

Michael in Sandy, OR.

[Leatherneck]

I find it ironic that, as a federales, I would be fired if I attempted to profit personally from my work activities. I can live with that, until some media pet from Montgomery County(!) gets special dispensation. It's especially painful remembering the heightened nervousness that prevailed in this area while the A-Team searched in vain for The White Van.:fire:

TC
TFL Survivor

[TheeBadOne]

Sounds like everyone's pretty hard on ole Moose. I guess the public microscope is hard to survive.

[gun-fucious]

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=97100

:D

[Sean Smith]

It is not a question of the public microscope, but of ol' Moosie being a sub-literate ***.

[jmbg29]

It is not a question of the public microscope, but of ol' Moosie being a sub-literate ***.But he gots a PHD (Piled Hip Deep), and most of us other folks ain't got no fancy book-larnin' a'tall!


What's that famous Moose quote again? "Do dat." :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[GnL]

At another point he said, "I didn't break the rules. I didn't know what the rules are."

Anybody else find this quote troubling from a so-called law enforcement officer? I wonder how many of the criminals he arrests get released after telling him they didn't know the law?:rolleyes:

[Russ]

If he could speak standard English, he could star in the movie.

[XLMiguel]

And then there's the 'illusion' that he 'led' the task force and 'cracked' the case. I wonder if the book will come with an 8 pack of crayons?

[foghornl]

Perhaps someone SHOULD ask Chief Moose if it is legal for him to "Do Dat"......:evil:

[CMichael]

:barf: :barf: :barf: :barf: :barf:

[Zander]

He'll need a good editor for average people to understand it !That presumes it will be written in English. :cool:

[jmbg29]

That presumes it will be written in English.Doubtful.

But just FYI, I am fluent in Haybonics - the parlance of the common Agro Americanus - a.k.a. Agro-American, or redneck, just in case anyone needs a translator for the "Hillbilly" edition of their written works. :D ;) :p

[CZ-75]

If he could speak standard English, he could star in the movie.

He be a Ph.D.


FWIW, I'm ordering mine online right now. ;)

[2dogs]

http://www.atlantaga.com/ebonics.htm

:D

[CZ-75]

http://www.atlantaga.com/ebonics.htm



Yo buss dis. po'lease chief allowed to keep teachin post po'lease Chief Charles A. Moose can keep his teachin job at Montgomery College, but de county Ethics Commission has yet to rule on his controversial book deal an' several othuh ventures related to las year's snipuh killins. De commission, which met fuh two hours wit de po'lease chief Monday night, plans to resume its talks at a specially convened meetin March 13, 'soshe-ate county attorney Edward Lattnuh said. No decision be expected befo den. Moose be requestin a waivuh from de county's skrict ethics law fuh de deal he signed in January wit Dutton Books, a division uh Penguin Group (USA), an' his sale uh de movie rights to his life story. In addition, he be seekin permission to run a private consultin firm on crisis management dat he commensed ta wit his hoe when he wuz po'lease chief uh Portland, Ore., an' reopened in December. Ethics rules forbid county employees from usin de prestige uh deir office fuh personal gain. Moose has taught criminal justice students at Montgomery College fuh de pas two years, but nevuh sought permission from de ethics commission fuh de part-time job. He acknowledged de oversight, but said it wuz unintentional an' he did not mean to hide anythin. De commission also decided dat Moose does not need its permission to serve as commanduh uh de Air National Guard's 113th Security Forces Squadron at Andrews Air Force base because military or guard duty be exempt from de ethics law, commission chairhoe Elizabeth K. Kellar said Tuesday. Moose's case marks a firs fuh de ethics commission, which ain't uset to approvin high-profile book an' movie deals. "Many uh our requests be usual -- po'lease officers lookin at security guard positions," said Kellar, who be wit de commission fuh foe years. "In my time at de commission, I has nevuh seen somethin quite likes dis." De commission questioned Moose fuh two hours Monday night in a meetin closed to de public an' media. Raised voices at de hearin could be heard by reporters waitin in de corridor outside de conference room in Rockville. At one point Moose wuz heard sayin, "I'll quit Montgomery College if dat's de case." At anothuh point he said, "I didn't break de rules. I didn't noed what de rules is." When he emerged from de commission meetin at 10 p.m. Moose had a testy exfix wit reporters. axeed whethuh he planned to seek anothuh job -- likes de Prince George's po'lease chief job, which he reportedly sought las month -- Moose said, "I be de po'lease chief in Montgomery County, an ****. I ain't lookin fuh wuk. Make dat clear in big, bold words." Moose said he did not see any conflict between de book an' his job. "This ain't a trainin manual," he said, referrin to de commission's denial in 1994 uh a county department head's reques to write a manual. "Dese be de memoirs uh my life story." De chief has promised to donate a portion uh de book profits to tree charities. Moose wuz dressed in civilian clothes -- a navy blue suit an' tie -- an' accompanied by his hoe, Sandy, who also spoke to de commission. De county's chief adminiskrative officuh, Bruce Romuh, also attended de meetin, representin de solid backin Moose has from County Executive Douglas M. Duncan (D). Duncan reiterated his support fuh Moose's book venture, sayin in a statement released befo de meetin: "De chief's story uh dat experience, as well as his life's wuk in law enforcement, be a compellin one, an' I continue to feel skrongly dat he should has de opportunity to tell it." Moose's employment contract gives him broad latitude to take up outside jobs in teachin, trainin, consultin an' rappin engagements, Duncan spokesman David Weavuh said. Howevuh, de jobs do require ethics commission approval. Duncan has said he will help de chief navigate any legal or ethical hurdles. County Council President Michael L. Subin (D-At large) uh Gaithersburg, who has stated dat de county's ethics laws be too narrowly drawn, has also promised to sign a waivuh fuh Moose if Duncan axes. Appearin on WTOP radio's axe de Chief program Tuesday mornin, Moose said he realized his situation be unusual fuh de ethics commission. "Sometimes different be f---ed up an' sometimes different be jus different. I hope in dis case it's de latter," Moose said. Moose said his consultin venture, "Two Moose -- A Carin Partnership," wuz simply a transfuh uh a bidness he an' his hoe began in Portland, Ore., in 1997-98, where he wuz po'lease chief fuh six years befo comin to Montgomery in 1999. "She filed de paperwuk to transfuh it to Maryland," he said uh his hoe. "Timin be everythin. De timin be probably awkward." De ventua has reportedly made no duckets. As fuh de book deal wit Dutton, Moose said it wuz not somethin he had planned. Moose said he wuz astounded by de numbuh uh publishin offers dat came his way aftuh de Octobuh arrests uh de snipuh suspects. "I trewdem all away, an ****. I thought it wuz a joke from de staff," he said on WTOP. But givun de national an' international interest, Moose said he agreed to a book proposal, an' de deal wuz skruck. "I didn't axe fuh it," Moose said. "I will make sho it doesn't give me a big head, it doesn't ruin my marriage." axeed by a calluh if he had givun any thought to de prospect dat de book -- set fuh publication in de fall -- would prejudice de Octobuh trial uh snipuh suspect John Allen Muhammad, Moose replied, "Please understan' dat I may be many thins but I be a po'lease officer. See what I'm sayin? I ain't goin tof--- up dis case." "I hope othuh folk be as concerned," he said in a dig at De wuzhinton Post, which be writin its own book. Sheeit!


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The original article, as translated.
;)

[2dogs]

CZ-75


:D :D :D :D :D :D :D


Oh man- that is way too funny.:D

[mcole]

the movie will probable be name "bullwinkle and rocky" ?? mocle

[labgrade]

Da Moose Edita (http://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/)

[Russ]

CZ-75,

Who knew you were fluent in Ebonics! :D

[gun-fucious]

MARYLAND
Moose to Proceed With Book


Montgomery County Police Chief Charles A. Moose said yesterday that he will not delay the release of his upcoming book about the sniper shootings, despite concerns of prosecutors and defense attorneys about tainting the jury pool in the pending trials of Lee Boyd Malvo and John Allen Muhammad.

Moose's book, tentatively titled "Three Weeks in October: The Search for the D.C. Sniper," is due out this fall from Dutton Books.

The book deal is the subject of an ethics review in Montgomery, where rules bar public employees from using the prestige of their office for personal gain.

After a speech yesterday to the Virginia Press Association in Richmond, Moose said that he will not delay the book's release and that the scrutiny of his off-hours work is an unfair double standard.

"The Washington Post is writing a book about it. Nobody's asking them about it," Moose said. "It's all about what I'm going to do.

"If I owned a newspaper, nobody would ask me about it, I suppose," he said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A63435-2003Mar8.html

[Coronach]

ya know...

If someone wants to reopen a thread to discuss the propriety of Chief Moose getting a book deal where the main topic of discussion is not his style of speech, I'm all for it.

People, 'ebonics' is not proper english. We know this. I'm as resistant to any attempt to mainstream poor grammar and diction as the next guy. But I'm quite sure that there is more than enough fodder for discussion in Moose's handling of the sniper investigation without needing to center upon how he speaks.

If we went to a 'liberal' or 'anti' board and saw posts making fun of gunowners by painting them all as inbred subliterate rednecks who constantly chew tobaccer and drawl like a bad King of the Hill imitation, we'd be bristling.

Same deal here. Yes, he speaks poorly. So do a lot of us. The point is not how his says things, it what he says and does.

Thank you,
Coronach