Taurus Vs Beretta?


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Tecolote
January 16, 2005, 01:11 AM
How does the Taurus PT92 stack up against the Beretta 92FS? Is the Taurus a buy or skip? Does Taurus use plastic parts like Beretta?

Where can a find a NIB no-decocker PT92?

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Zach S
January 16, 2005, 03:47 AM
I've shot both, however dont have a lot of expeiance with either. Based on my limited experiance, my vote goes to the PT92 due to the frame-mounted safety that allows C&Led carry.

I've never seen a no-decocker PT92. But like I said, I dont have a lot of experiance with them.

9x19
January 16, 2005, 05:18 AM
The early model Taurus PT-92 and PT-99 had frame mounted safeties that did not de-cock the hammer.

Your only source for them will be the used market, such as www.gunbroker.com , www.auctionarms.com or www.gunsamerica.com

BigTinVA
January 16, 2005, 07:30 AM
I prefer the Taurus PT-92 for the same exact reasons as Zach S stated. I have had no problems at all with my stainless PT-92. The action of the Beretta may be smoother and the fit and finish may be nicer though. Also, it looks like a lot of the new Taurus' have a built in rail (which I think looks funky on this model). See if you can check out both models side by side.

http://www.taurususa.com/imagesMain/H_92SS5.jpg

valor1
January 16, 2005, 09:14 AM
I'll definitely choose the Taurus. Taurus shares the same design with the Bereta but the Taurus has a frame mounted safety that also acts as a decocker. The Taurus is also cheaper.

wally
January 16, 2005, 11:40 AM
I've both Beretta 92 and Taurus PT-92. I shoot the Taurus, Beretta is safe queen because of slide mounted safety/decocker and hate of DA/SA operation.

My PT-92 is very reliable and accurate. Factor in the price difference, and the only reason to buy the Beretta is you'll have better resale value.

--wally.

Walt Sherrill
January 16, 2005, 11:43 AM
The last test I saw of the two guns -- side by side -- was in Gun Test Magazine, a year or so ago. They gave the edge to Taurus.

Old Dog
January 16, 2005, 12:33 PM
All I can say is ... I've been carrying Berettas on duty for the past twelve years or so (since we got rid of our 1911s); I own two, one blued, one Inox ... but, I've also owned a Taurus PT-92 AF-D (circa 1992 or so, the first de-cocking model) for years, and I would not give it up. My Taurus is actually slightly more accurate than my Berettas, though the Berettas have marginally better DA trigger pulls and possibly slightly better finish (though the polished blue Taurus slide is, in my view, quite pretty). Since I use Berettas on duty, I'd probably give them the edge in accuracy (I've seen other PT-92s that weren't as accurate as mine), but -- it's that damn safety placement. The frame-mounted, down-to-fire is simply much more ergonomic and logical -- especially for those of us who came up on 1911s.

After seeing a stainless PT-92 at a gun show recently ... I may just pick one up to keep my old one company -- it's a good-lookin' piece. Then again, I'll probably buy another 1911 instead, though ...

afvoo52
January 16, 2005, 04:04 PM
I just went through the same question. My local dealer who has been a personnal friend for 25 years told me to save $100.00 and get the Taurus, which I did, a PT99. He said the Beretta was no better function or accuracy wise just a better slightly finish on some internals, he also stated the Taurus guns seem to hold the edge on accuracy from his personnal experience, but that seems to be gun to gun from my experience. He also stated he has had more Beretta's come back than the Taurus clones and that is figured percentage wise. I have shot 20 different reloads and 14 factory offerings without a glitch. I have over 200 rounds in 3 days of shooting in 20degree weather and have found that the Taurus is extremely accurate and blows away my S&W 5906. I have gotten 5 loads to shoot a ragged hole at 60ft 3 factory 2 reloads and most groups are 2inches or under. I have read alot of posts at variuos forums where folks have over 20,000 through thier Taurus PT92, 99,s 100,s and still going. I also prefer a slide mounted safety which is also a decocker or cocked and locked. So far I am very happy. A Beretta will hold a higher resale value but if you are planning on keeping it a while who really cares. I would not hesitate to buy either, its just a safety design issue and money difference.

SouthpawShootr
January 16, 2005, 06:44 PM
Seems to me a gunsmith could switch out parts from a decocker model with parts from a non-decocker model (maybe from www.e-gunparts.com) and disable the decocker. Put early model grips on it and you've got what you wanted. I would check with a gunsmith for feasibility before buying parts (you may find most 'smith's will likely decline to disable a factory feature due to liability concerns). Otherwise, keep your eyes peeled for a NIB or LNIB older PT92 (they do surface periodically.

I have both a Beretta and Taurus. Both bore me to the point of tears with reliability. Both are about equally accurate. Fit/finish is a better on Beretta and the Beretta is considerably smoother than the Taurus. From an SD viewpoint these differences don't matter much.

rde
January 16, 2005, 08:33 PM
I have had both. Started with a Taurus PT 92 AFS (pre-decocker) which I traded in on a "real" Beretta 92FS. OK..well, this turned out to be "stupid." Between these 2 individual examples...I shot the Taurus model more accurately than I can currently shoot the Beretta. I really don't know why but my accuracy with this individual Beretta is very poor and my accuracy with the Taurus was outstanding. It is not the gun itself because from a rest the Beretta is very accurate...but shooting free hand I have some sort of inherent problem with it. Everything else is a wash for me as an individual (including the location/operation of safety). Both are very reliable and well made. From this experience (though limited) I do not hesitate to recommend the Taurus and make no apologies about it.

peashooter
January 16, 2005, 08:46 PM
I've owned Taurus' and still own a Taurus 85. Never owned a Taurus PT92, but have shot them. Safety on slide, safety on frame, to me who cares. It's DA, my safety is my finger. I do own two Beretta 92s and shoot them in IPSC regularly and IDPA once in a while. One shooting buddy of mine is the only guy I know, and I'm sure there are others out there, that shoots a Taurus 92 and he loves it, but there are plenty of Berettas in IPSC and IDPA.
Personally, my only problem with Taurus is that their customer service STINKS.
I had a PT-111 until last year. After it broke two slide stops in less than a month, it was gone. The only reason I was able to break two in that time was that it had broken one about a year earlier and I ordered two. After the last one broke I sent the broken one to Taurus with a letter addressing the issue. That was last April. I still haven't received a reply or replacement.
Taurus makes a fine gun, maybe even a world class gun, the problem is with their customer service.

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