Attack of the K-31, or What a deal!


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Marnoot
January 16, 2005, 03:55 AM
Well... generally I cycle bolt actions by raising the muzzle slightly to improve leverage. I found on my first outing with my Schmidt-Rubin K-31 today, however, that that is unwise with this design. I expected, albeit incorrectly, the spent casing would eject somewhere between 2 and 3 o'clock as most of my bolt-actions do; unfortunately it made a very forceful sharp-end-first ejection exactly at 12:00, which happened to be my forehead; thankfully it didn't bleed too much... :uhoh: ;) I was surprised at the damage flying, manually ejected brass can do.

After laughing gleefully at my comic injury, my friend then took a turn. My K-31 quickly dispensed justice upon his laughter by proceeding to direct an ejected casing into his nose. My brother then shot it, but managed to escape with only landing a couple casings on his hat. I suppose it was only a matter of time till it bit me; all of my guns eventually draw blood, it's usually from working on them on the bench though, not from their first shooting run.

Besides the bloodletting session, I must say this rifle is the best deal I've ever gotten on a firearm. For $79, it shoots about as straight as anything I've got and stands unique among it's rifled bretheren in my collection. Though I wish ammo availabilty and price were a bit better, I still have little to complain about. For anyone looking for a great rifle for under $100, let me recommend the K-31, just watch that ejection! :p

In the picture below, the K-31 is the one lurking in the middle of the pack, waiting to produce semi-circular lacerations on any who mock it.

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cracked butt
January 16, 2005, 04:15 AM
You gotta wonder how many one-eyed men now live in Switzerland :uhoh:

enichols
January 16, 2005, 10:18 AM
Congrats on a beautiful rifle! I love my K31! It's incredibly accurate and as you say, definitely unique. It hasn't attacked me with brass (yet) though... maybe my rifle just likes me better ;)

WhoKnowsWho
January 16, 2005, 11:13 AM
Funny, when I worked it, I either left it on the shoulder, or lowered it so it pointed away, seems like those were much better ideas!

It is a sweet rifle. Gotta get the dies.

Marnoot
January 16, 2005, 02:20 PM
Funny, when I worked it, I either left it on the shoulder, or lowered it so it pointed away, seems like those were much better ideas!
Oh, don't worry, I adopted alternative technique immediately after cycling my first [painful] round. ;) I was just in the habit of bringing the rifle up some from cycling the under-leveraged bolt with my under-strength arms on my M-44, which was my first bolt-action gun.

rust collector
January 16, 2005, 02:48 PM
Heh, your rifle line-up looks like one of my days at the range. Isn't it great to be able to exercise these old warhorses that have sat in crates for many years? Each one has secrets of its own. Thank heavens for surplusrifle.com and other resources that help make it a bit less painful.

Hadn't notice my K31 brass coming back like that--may be some type of ejection timing issue as well as form. A cap or hat is a standard part of my shooting kit, as I will collect hot brass one way or another if I don't plan ahead. Thanks for sharing your story and maybe saving someone else's noggin.

Someone's gotta start loading hunting ammo for the K31s one of these days. I suppose when the GP11 dries up maybe the commercial stuff will start to flow.

Dave R
January 16, 2005, 10:26 PM
Wear your scar with pride. ;)

There's another way it can bite you. If you maintain your cheek-weld between shots, and you have your head too far forward, that bolt can rap you in the nose.

You've been warned.

landon74
January 16, 2005, 11:25 PM
Nice Pic of your collection!

WhoKnowsWho
January 17, 2005, 01:49 AM
I was just in the habit of bringing the rifle up some from cycling the under-leveraged bolt with my under-strength arms on my M-44, which was my first bolt-action gun.

Ah, I do the same thing with my Mosin Nagants too. You should get yourself a nice Mauser too, work out your arm with the Mosin, and then when you are too tired to work it anymore, shoot with the Mauser, they are smooth!

jobu07
January 17, 2005, 06:27 AM
That's a nice family photo you have there Marnoot. :)

cracked butt
January 17, 2005, 08:06 AM
The way to work the bolt on a S-R is to slap it back with the palm of your hand, then slap it back forward shut with the palm of your hand.

ARperson
January 17, 2005, 09:55 AM
We generally either work the bolt very slow, to save the reloaded brass, or my hubby will pull the bolt back pretty hard so the cases go back over his head and I can catch them. I just roll the gun to the side a bit so they land on the table.

GigaBuist
January 17, 2005, 11:29 AM
I was just in the habit of bringing the rifle up some from cycling the under-leveraged bolt with my under-strength arms on my M-44

If you're working off a bench (and I presume you shoot right handed) try reaching over the top with the left hand to work the bolt. Its not as unnatural feeling as it sounds.

Sleeping Dog
January 17, 2005, 11:36 AM
Mine worked great. After shooting, I just pull the bolt backward, the empty pops straight up, a little back and to the right. So I just reach out, catch the brass in flight, drop it in my range bag, then push the bolt forward. Didn't have to chase much brass :)

Regards.

Dave R
January 18, 2005, 11:16 AM
Lol. I do the same as Sleeping Dog at the range. If you work the bolt mildly, the brass is easy to catch in the air.

I don't understand all the "hot brass happy dance" stories. I catch lots of brass right after it comes out of a rifle and its not too hot to touch.

Do pistols make hotter brass or something?

Marnoot
January 18, 2005, 11:47 AM
I don't understand all the "hot brass happy dance" stories. I catch lots of brass right after it comes out of a rifle and its not too hot to touch.
I think it depends on how hot the chamber is, as well as the fact that a bolt action has a couple seconds to cool down before the brass is ejected. A semi-auto that's had a couple magazines run through it makes for some dang hot brass. I've caught both hot pistol and rifle brass on the side of the face, and one down the shirt; and they're HOT. Basically, I think semi-auto makes for hotter brass, because it's fresh out of the oven.

Black Snowman
January 18, 2005, 11:51 AM
It all depends on your rate of fire. I've heald some rifle brass that's pretty toasty. Particularly after a good number of rounds have been through the gun.

Even after 5 shots the magnum rounds can get pretty toasty. My Dad's .340 Weatherby and .458 Win Mag come to mind.

Cosmoline
January 18, 2005, 01:28 PM
With practice you can catch the brass in the brim of your hat.

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