[fish2xs]

I may be narrowing down my search for a bolt action target-only rifle in .223. I am looking at a Savage Tactical FP-10 for about $450, or a Remington 700 PSS for about $750.

Is the Remington worth the $300?

http://www.savagearms.com/centerfire/varmint/10fp.htm
(don't have a URL for the remington)

Thanks for the collective wisdom.

[warrior23]

Savage has changed their guns,adding a new adjustable trigger.They are known to be very accurate out of the box, the only thing which is an issue is the stock.Remingtons 700p is also a fine gun,the nice thing about Remys is all the after market parts available and the action is familiar with most gunsmiths.You can't go wrong with either gun,have you looked into Remys VS,sendero lines they are almost identical to the Pss except for the stock.Some people don't care for the Pss stock because of the wide grip.The other lines have a narrower grip.

[RTownsend]

I think you will be happier with the Savage 12BVSS.

Make sure you are getting a new one with the Accu trigger. It has a nice laminated stock with 26" fluted barrel. Someone posted that they found one for $499. If you want it black just paint it.

The Rem. is nice but I really like Savages and just can't hardly recommend the Rem. when the Savage has so much going for it for less money.

[Detritus]

Is the Remington worth the $300?

having shot both, albeit before the accu-trigger which makes the Savage even MORE desireable in my book. my answer is a resonding NO!!

i haven't seen a Savage yet that couldn't beat or at least meet on even terms a similarly configed remington. basicly i don't think you can go wrong with a Savage.

my next non-military bolt gun purchase is going to be an Accutrigger equipped 10FP in .223, to replace the 110FP i had to sell last year to cover bills.

so take the extra money and turn it toward the scope and or other needed acessories. that's is what i did when i bought my 110FP. i was able to get the rifle, a decent scope, a case adn a bipod for about $10 over what i would have paid for the rifle alone if i'd bought the remington i was also considering.

and just as a funny side note. the remington i'd had my eye on, which was distinctive in that it was a phosphate finnished 700 in .223 with a Heavy, Fluted barrel, that was never cataloged by Remington, was bought by a gentleman that shot at the same range as I in NC. and i got to shoot it, and Jim got to shoot my savage. the savage shot so much better in both our oppinions, than the remington, that the next time i saw Jim he had gone out and bought a 10FP (right after i bought MY gun savage brought out the shot actions) in .223. though he DID keep the remington.

one word of caution though on the savage, as soon as you get it home give the exterior surfaces a good coat of whatever oil/CLP/etc you like. i don't know if their "matte Blue" finish has improved since my first one or not, but back then they had a problem with what i would call "dust-like" surface rust looked like that powdered cinnimon stuff folks put on donuts!!. you'd go to gunshows and swear the vender HAD to be a putz to leave a gun that dusty out without cleaning, then get closer and find out it was a very thin layer of rust that wiped off with a oil rag like dust from a mantle piece

keeping the gun wiped down kept this at bay i only ever had rust appear 3 or 4 times and all of them were MY fault. putting the gun in the safe by grasping it by the barrel with a bare hand and not wiping my hand print off, then leaving it for two weeks. Or something similarly stupid.

this and the agrivation caused by having a short action round in a long action gun (now fixed by the intro of the "10,12,16" short actions) were the only trouble i ever had out of the gun that were't completely caused by my stupid young self.

[user543193]

I would have to agree with the above members. Have you checked out the 10FP le1 version. It is the same as 10fp but with a 20 inch barrel that will be more accurate except at extreme distances 800m plus.

Savage rifles seem to be on the up and up, while Remington appears to be having problems with QA and is getting rather heavily bashed on these forums lately.

Both are great rifles, pricewise however savage is hard to beat, especially since you can now get choate and McMillan stocks standard.

Nothing wrong with big green, but it seems to be more expensive for a similar product.

[Glockster35]

I looked at both for several months. I researched every detail of the purchase and the guns prior to taking the plunge.

I went with thte Savage and have found it to be what I wanted, plus much more. It simply shoots better than any other rifle I have ever owned.

[Slick]

Godspeed Glockster!