Ammo Shipping Question


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wireless
January 21, 2005, 02:25 AM
How do you guys ship ammunition? I haven't asked, but a sign at the local UPS counter states that they only ship ammo by contract. I don't believe US Mail will ship it either. Can someone tell me what if I am missing something? Which carrier will let private individuals ship ammo? Thanks!

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Zak Smith
January 21, 2005, 02:39 AM
Package and label it properly conformant to ORM-D and ship it UPS Ground.
Works for me.

rick_reno
January 21, 2005, 02:45 AM
I've been told the UPS rules are it must be properly labeled and in it's orginal boxes and shipped by ground. If you hunt around on the UPS site you can find the labels that can be printed and taped to the box. It's been awhile since I looked for this, but I believe the term you want to search for is "ORM-D".

Zak Smith
January 21, 2005, 02:49 AM
You can also just write ORM-D on with a permanent marker. The first one I shipped, I had cut out and re-used labels. The guy at the counter said they usually just write it on with a marker. There is no legal requirement for stickers...

DigMe
January 21, 2005, 08:51 AM
Isn't there an increased charge for this?

brad cook

George S.
January 21, 2005, 09:53 AM
UPS may hit you with a Hazardous Materials charge, but I don't think it's a requirement. I dont' recall seeing such an additional charge on any bill I got when I ordered ammo from internet sites.

As long as the box is strong enough to hold the weight, taped securely and addressed, and you have the ORM-D sticker or written on the carton, that should be all you need. I have received ammo in plain unmarked boxes (not original manufacturer's boxes).

If you were shippng some other item and had to include a single box of ammo, I don't see how you would be forced to use a box that was printed as a ammo manufacturer's box :confused:

zippo8
January 21, 2005, 09:54 AM
I have been shipping ammo for years at the local UPS customer counter without any problem. However, the last time I went to ship, they refused because the ammo was not in it's original labeled box. I argued with them about just needing the ORM-D label and the fact that they had taken my shipments before, but they still refused. They cited something about "heightened security" for not taking it.

LiquidTension
January 21, 2005, 11:11 AM
I use UPS as little as possible. I deal with USPS for work all the time, and they're usually pretty helpful. With the exception of the McCormick, SC PO...their postmaster had to write me a letter of apology and got a reprimand on his record because he lied to me and made me pull a police officer off the street to set him straight :rolleyes: That had nothing to do with ammo though. Ammo that I receive is usually UPS just because that's what Midway and Natchez use.

DigMe
January 21, 2005, 11:54 AM
I thought the USPS wouldn't ship ammo?

brad cook

Deavis
January 21, 2005, 05:57 PM
Here you go! I keep this handy for shipping ammo.

wireless
January 22, 2005, 01:17 AM
Deavis,

Thanks for the link. I assume this was taken from the UPS website? Also, thanks to the rest of you guys for your input.

yesterdaysyouth
January 22, 2005, 12:15 PM
i ordered some ammo from centerfire last week, packed loose in plastic bags... ups didn't have a problem with them doing it... :cuss:

Deavis
January 22, 2005, 12:43 PM
Nope, I just threw together a PDF of the applicable standards that were posted on various threads and added an illustration to remind me of how it should look.

MoNsTeR
January 22, 2005, 12:53 PM
The one time I shipped ammo...

FedEx were serious, grade-A jerks about it. They ultimately insisted I couldn't do it.

The guy at the UPS store didn't even blink, no problem at all.

Seems like the thing to do is label it ORM-D and keep your mouth shut.

Gunsnrovers
January 22, 2005, 01:04 PM
When I order reloads from Miwall, they are shipped loose in black plastic ammo cans inside a brown cardboard box. The only problem I have is my UPS carrier gives me a hard time about the heavy boxes. He wanted to know if I would consider a smaller caliber. :)

mrjkb
April 17, 2007, 12:44 PM
This article gives some insight into the best carrier for shipping ammunition by UPS, USPS or FedEx. http://www.adazonusa.com/howtoshipammunitionorammo-a-45.html The bottom line is that FedEx requires a “Shippers Declaration for Dangerous Goods” form, UPS will just take it with a ORM-D, Cartridges, Small Arms sticker, and USPS offices are all different, and most will not take it.

rshackleford
April 6, 2009, 07:06 AM
we got some good answers on how to ship ammo, but where can we ship it to.

are there any states that we shouldn't ship ammo to?

mgkdrgn
April 6, 2009, 09:13 AM
How do you guys ship ammunition? I haven't asked, but a sign at the local UPS counter states that they only ship ammo by contract. I don't believe US Mail will ship it either. Can someone tell me what if I am missing something? Which carrier will let private individuals ship ammo? Thanks!

You -can- ship UPS, but you have to take it -to- the UPS hub, not one of the Kinkos, Office Max, Mail Box Etc storefronts.

It needs to be labeled ORM-D, small arms ammunition.

mgkdrgn
April 6, 2009, 09:14 AM
we got some good answers on how to ship ammo, but where can we ship it to.

are there any states that we shouldn't ship ammo to?

Go to any of the on-line places that ship ammo (CTD, Sportsmans Guide, The Armory, etc) and see where they will not ship to. If they won't ship there, you probably shouldn't either.

speedracer211
May 13, 2009, 11:25 PM
I have a ups account and get pick up two times a day. Will ups pick up the ammo at my business? Or do I have to go to a physical hub?

EOD Guy
May 14, 2009, 12:04 PM
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Here you go! I keep this handy for shipping ammo.
Attached Files How to ship ammunition.pdf (74.7 KB, 328 views)

That is the wrong ORM-D marking. Ammunition cannot be shipped as a Consumer Commodity. It must ship as Cartridges Small Arms.

c5_nc
May 14, 2009, 01:20 PM
You shouldn't be having conversations about it at the UPS counter. You pack it very securetly in a box, put a ORM-D label on it (I print them off, cut out and tape it to a box) and print regular UPS ground label for it. The only time you should be discussing it is if they question you about it. If you start questioning they are likely not as familar with UPS's regulations on ammo and are likely just to refuse, etc, error on the side of caution.

mgkdrgn
May 14, 2009, 02:29 PM
I have a ups account and get pick up two times a day. Will ups pick up the ammo at my business? Or do I have to go to a physical hub?

They will pick it up, but it still needs to be properly labeled ORM-D.

As you are a regular UPS customer, check with them, they will be happy to assist you.

Trumpet
August 28, 2010, 04:32 PM
Can I just ship it in the original crate (w/ the proper ORM-D stickers)it came in (2160 rounds of 5.45 in a wooden crate screwed shut with steel bands) or do I have to put the crate in a box if I want them to pick it up at my house?

Coop2
January 16, 2011, 07:39 PM
Well it made sense earlier... no I wasn't trying to stir up anything, just had an theory is all.

EOD Guy
January 16, 2011, 09:33 PM
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

First of all, small arms ammunition cannot be reclassed as a consumer commodity, The proper shipping name will always be "Cartridges Small Arms.

Cartridges Small Arms are classed by DOT as a Division 1.4S Explosive Material which can be reclassed as ORM-D when properly packaed in limited quantities less than 66 pounds gross weight.

Postal regulations forbid the mailing of any ORM-D materials reclassed from DOT Hazard Class 1 (explosives). The miscellaneous hazardous material referred to are DOT Hazard Class 9 materials.

Your post is among the most convoluted and screwed up pieces of crap I've ever seen.

Are you diliberately trying to stir things up with your first post?

You have no idea what you are talking about.

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