USFA displays 1911's at SHOT show?


January 30, 2005, 12:28 PM
Rumor has it that USFA introduced a 1911 at the SHOT show.

If it's the same quality as their SAA's, it could be very promising.

Just don't remind Wild Alaska that yet another company is doing what Colt is doing only better. :D

Anyone at SHOT get a chance to take a peek and ask some questions?

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scratchy wilson
January 30, 2005, 01:43 PM
If this turns out to be true, that soul ripping scream you hear will be coming from my checkbook! :evil:

Hope it's a GI or Commercial type repro.

January 30, 2005, 01:50 PM
I imagine it would be based on the one photo I saw. I'm hoping for a 1911 and not an A1. :D

Bill Z
January 30, 2005, 06:55 PM
They actually have two of them there. One is a 1910 and the other is a 1911.

The 1910 is marked Calibre 45 Smokeless. It has a nice blueing and the pins and accessories appear to be fire blued or carbonized(sp).
The 1911 is basically the same, but the frame has the scallops cut behind the trigger guard and is marked 'US Property'(or Government) and are available right now in US Army, Navy and will be available in USMC eventually according to their rep.

They both share the same small tab safety, which doesn't quite look right to me. Don't get me wrong, I like small tab safeties, but there is something not quite right about these in particular. While the 1911 has a standard spur hammer, the 1910's is bobbed. They do come in a 'period' style box and the manuals are done old fashioned style, nice touch.

Now, my personal opinion. The finish and outward cosmetics look nice, however the fit of the frame to slide and barrel have a great deal of movement in them. Is this exactly bad, well not for a show piece I guess, but it's not a shooter, especially at 1495.00 and 1595.00 a copy. I think they are meant to be ogled and not handled. Your money would be much better spent on a shooter or a real collector.

Jim Watson
January 30, 2005, 07:07 PM
The only picture I ever saw of an authenticated 1910 Colt prototype, there was no manual safety. I'd have to look up to see when the manual safety was first incorporated.

If there are scallops in the frame behind the trigger, then it is a 1911A1 design frame, no matter what other (interchangeable) parts it has.

Do they think there are enough Wild Bunch matches for it to pay them to jump on the 1911 bandwagon?

Maybe they will get the fit up to what they are doing with SAs, and we will have a replica worthy of the name, not just another can of MIM.

Bill Z
January 30, 2005, 07:49 PM
Jim, none of them were correct, not the SA's either.

On the 1911's/10's as they call them, the even had wierd grip screws/bushings, the grips seemed a bit thin, and there was no part of the grip covering the plunger tube. I hate to say that I was a bit underwhelmed. I thought the dealer pricing was a little high when I thought it was retail, then they told me the retail that I posted above and was a bit blown away. I didn't check to see what was MIM or not in the pistol, and really have no way of knowing how it shoots, I'm just reporting what I observed.

Now for the SA's, the quarter cock notch seemed to be missing. They may have taken the hand out of some of them that raises the bolt, but out of all of them, only one would lower the bolt so you could check the cylinders. I think the quality of their 1911/10 is up to the quality of their SA's, but that isn't saying a whole lot.

Now if you want a nice cowboy gun, go see Gary Owens at EMF and his pistols. They have 'smiths shaking in their boots with what they sell off of the shelf, and at a superb price.

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