[alan]

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[Open Carry]

Very interesting, but any judge or panel of judges can easily defy logic and rule any way they see fit. The applied logic is too complex to be understood by todays' lazy voters who comprise the jury pool. The Founding Fathers vision of America is largely dead. Since I have realized this, my gun collection has been growing.

[labgrade]

I'm with OC, except for his interpretive "The Founding Fathers vision of America is largely dead."

It IS dead, nothing "largely" about it. (with apologies, OC)

The Second (RIP) says exactly what it does. So do the rest of the Bill of Rights, & they have been similarily raped to unconsciousness.

That we have had "the legislature" write laws to the contrary makes no real difference - the original stuff is still as real as the day it was written. Same for your own state constitution (if any'd be so bold as to contain an individual right to "keep and bear").

These documents say exactly what they say & there is no need for any "modern day" interpretation (as if) - just read the darned things - they are expicit in their writings & meanings (& The Founders - state & fed made this perfectly clear)

Revisionist, societal engineers & interpretors have changed all meanings of what our once-fine documents actually meant.

SCOTUS won't even address the issue - scared to rule - knowing every evidence in our favor.

Hell, it'd throw us all into "anarchy!" ;)

Wouldn't it?

[DadOfThree]

Hell, it'd throw us all into "anarchy!"
OK, you!! Don't start this again. :D :D

[labgrade]

:D,

Dad 'O 3, (& thanks, I think, for the opening)

But it's true, & you (collectively) know it to be so.

Holy Smoke!

If SCOTUS would actually rule per Founder-Precidence, our whole life/country/legal system would be thrown into - "anarchy" per current definition - actually living by our own constitution & the principles of our Founders - not to belittle our own moral code, but to actually enhance it - we would actually live by our own moral code & without any restrictions - except for that we'd never cause harm to another - the Basics.

Total & complete RKBA - without illegally shooting another & based soley on "the right thing."

Good God! (no offense, BTW, Dad)

What we would now call "anarchy" was always understood to be freedom to do as you wished, while never causing harm to another.

How far we've come through "definitions." (sigh)

Our latest definitions have decided that we just "eat it," because that is what is "best for society as a whole" (= socialism) - while it never was - merely redefined to match whatever goal for the spin-masters of today. We usually call it "for the good of all" for lack of a better term.

In essense, "you can't handle responsibility responsibly" - the latest catch-phrase.

We never could, as a whole society. Not in 1776, & not in 2003.

Freedom is an incredible issue that entails we take full responsibility of our own actions & that we accept that completely. As a society, doubtful we ever could accept total freedom, but specific people always could & that's exactly why this country was founded as it was.

Who would even ever want to!? What an incredible personal responsibility! & one most would shirk simply because we haven't the personal fortitude or will to - as a personal entity. but, for personal freedom, it was an incredible experiment - while it lasted. "Society," as a whole could "accept" responsibility," but never again could the "person."

This killed us as a society.

Where else will you go with this "new society" without recognising that the "initial anarchy" was the premise & founding priciple of our country?

We are! I am!

This society has always been of the singular - a single entity who will strive for our own personal freedoms, but sadly lacking due to the failings of the society as a whole.

But e get the cop-out to be somehow of a "society."

& as such, we get "rulings" to "satisfy" our yearnings for a homegengous "thing" that tries to make us all the same.

(so sad)

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[Ed Brunner]

I have to agree with labgrade.