(MO) CCW bill passes Missouri House


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Blackhawk
March 7, 2003, 01:52 AM
Missouri House passes bill allowing concealed weapons
By BILL BELL JR. Post-Dispatch
updated: 03/06/2003 09:16 PM



JEFFERSON CITY - Carrying concealed weapons would be legal under a bill that won final approval Thursday from the Missouri House.

The bill restricts who could have a concealed weapon and where a permit holder could carry it. The measure passed on a 108-33 vote and now moves to the Senate for more debate.

The bill has many safeguards. For example, those who get the permit from their sheriff could not be a felon or have been convicted of a misdemeanor involving a crime of violence in the past five years.

Applicants would have to go through eight hours of safety training and a background check. Permits would cost $100 and be valid for three years.

Concealed weapons could not be taken into casinos, bars, prisons, or police stations but could be carried into schools, churches and child care facilities with proper approval. Members of the Legislature would be allowed to carry concealed weapons in the House and Senate chambers.

The sponsor, Rep. Larry Crawford, R-California, said the bill has some features that make gun-rights supporters skittish.

He said one of the criticisms of Proposition B was that there was no central repository of information on who would have had concealed weapons permits. Under his bill, the state Department of Revenue would keep the information and would issue a new drivers or nondrivers license with a "concealed carry endorsement."

House Speaker Catherine Hanaway, R-Warson Woods, was one of the votes in favor of the bill. In 1999, she had opposed Proposition B, a concealed weapon initiative that lost narrowly in a statewide vote.

Hanaway said she changed her position last year because circumstances in the country have changed.

"There is just a different climate than there was before Sept. 11," Hanaway said in an interview after the vote.

Hanaway said she had not compared this year's concealed weapons bill to Proposition B. But she felt the latest initiative strikes a "reasonable balance" in limiting those who could carry concealed weapons.

Opponents stressed their worries that having more guns on the street would ultimately lead to more violence. Rep. Kathlyn Fares, R-Webster Groves, was the only Republican from the St. Louis area to vote against the bill. "I think it's a public health issue in the urban areas," she said

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Gray Peterson
March 7, 2003, 02:08 AM
The bill restricts who could have a concealed weapon and where a permit holder could carry it. The measure passed on a 108-33 vote and now moves to the Senate for more debate.

That is way more than two to one in favor. That means that if the Senate sustains a 2/3's majority like the House has done, then it is highly likely that Governor Holden's threatened veto is going to be moot.

S_O_Laban
March 7, 2003, 04:23 AM
Holden won his seat by a very slim margin last election. I hope he rethinks his postion on this but seriously doubt he'll show any common sense. I belive a alot of people have changed their minds about CCW since 9/11, which was after he was elected. I'm thinking this is another nail in his polictical coffin if he vetos. Many think they made a mistake by voting for him but hey if they had'nt we would not have sent Jim Talent to the Senate. (Talent ran against Holden) I belive that CCW in Mo is critical for all of the midwest I belive if Mo get CCW the pressure will be on Ks to follow. The KC metro area is split by the Mo/KS line and suspect a serious rise in crime on the Ks side (where I happen to work:banghead: ) if Mo passes a CCW law. As I understand it Ks it like Mo in that the big cities ( ie KC,Wichitaw) control the vote. Maybe this will swing some of KCKs over to the CCW when they realize KCMo has a drop in crime. Lets hope!

Kharn
March 7, 2003, 07:30 AM
Under his bill, the state Department of Revenue would keep the information and would issue a new drivers or nondrivers license with a "concealed carry endorsement."
Interesting idea, but then you cant use the CCW as a second form of ID, and some liberals might freak out when they spot the endorsement while you're writing a check and such.

Kharn

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