Officer's Mag question


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bratch
February 5, 2005, 01:58 AM
Got my Kimber compact in today and am in need of some mags. Are the stand up people for full size any different for officers (wilson, etc)? Can I use a full size as a reload?

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steveno
February 5, 2005, 06:51 AM
if you use a standard magazine in a gun with the officers grip frame you have to be careful about how hard you seat the magazine. if you jam it in hard you could lock the slide

one-shot-one
February 5, 2005, 09:28 AM
have had good luck with wilson 7 round mags in my kimber compact.
have not tried longer mags.

LWCmdr45
February 6, 2005, 02:54 AM
For my Colt C.C.O. with Officer's-size butt, I use the 7-rounders supplied by Colt (made by McCormick). For back-up mags, I use the McCormick 8-rounders with the accessory Officer's base pad that prevents over-insertion in the shorter butt. They all work 100%.

As mentioned, standard-length Government Model mags (with no over-travel pad) may bind up the gun if inserted too vigorously, but should function properly if eased in.

Steve

bratch
February 6, 2005, 03:18 AM
I don't want to have to worry about being gentle so I think I'll just order a set of Officers mags.

Thanks

Clean97GTI
February 6, 2005, 03:31 AM
Wouldn't it be wiser to order a gun with better capacity and mags that actually fit? CZ75B

bratch
February 6, 2005, 03:36 AM
I actually have a CZ75b and a BHP. I find I can shoot the 1911s notably better plus my holster from Eric isn't in yet.

Clean97GTI
February 6, 2005, 03:41 AM
but you can shoot the CZ twice as much.

I was just trying to bump a thread for the curious. I'd just buy the correct officers mag and avoid problems in a carry weapon.

bratch
February 6, 2005, 03:52 AM
I'd probably have to shoot twice as much to hit them too. :D I agree with you about buying the officer's mags.

Clean97GTI
February 6, 2005, 03:58 AM
With some of the reports of recent Kimber quality, I think the number of trigger pulls might be identical.

bratch
February 6, 2005, 04:11 AM
Ahh but this is an original Series 1 Aluminum Compact.
I have had great luck with my Series 2 TLE though. I think I just have good gun luck even my Cetme worked great out of the box. :what:

Zach S
February 6, 2005, 06:05 AM
I use Wilsons. Mainly becasue I already had a few for my Para Companion.

HRT
February 6, 2005, 03:13 PM
My solution with my kimber compact was a 7 round Chip McCormick match grade mag. Fits flush with the grip frame and seems to be of better quality than shooting stars. My two on body spares are Chip McCormick 8 round power mags with the standard base plate swapped out for the officers base plate (avail for like $3 from CMC). The officers base plate has a longer tang on the front that prevents over insertion. This combination has worked well for me and provides 24 rounds of 45 ACP in my standard carry config with my compact. BTW it is a brass plated female dog (cleaned up for ART's Grammaw)if you get a touch over enthused and over insert a standard mag past the slide stop. No one person has enough hands to clear that stoppage easily.

19112XS
February 6, 2005, 11:16 PM
Hi Bratch.

On one of the other forums some users of CMC mags with the Devel (metal) followers reported that the followers gouged the feed ramps of their alloy frame Kimbers, If a search on THR yields nothing on this, you might check the Kimber or Gunsmith forums on m1911.org. Sorry, but I’ve forgotten where I first saw this information, but have observed firsthand the bad effects of CMC metal followers on Kimber alloy frames.

Wilson Officer’s style 7x work well. They have plastic followers and hold the slide back after the last round. The followers are sold separately and can be inserted into CMC mag tubes (with Wolff springs under them :) ) but the trick is finding the Wilson plastic followers available, and at a reasonable price. I’m sure other solutions are out there, do what works best for you.

bratch
February 6, 2005, 11:30 PM
I was aware of the follower problems. They have it stickied in the Kimber forum at 1911forum. Thanks for the heads up though.

BluesBear
February 8, 2005, 08:11 AM
I have never hads any problem using a standard mag in a Compact/Officers ACP.

If the slide is in battery then you can't shove it in too far.

If the slide is locked back you won't need much force to seat a magazine.

If you slam it too hard the ejector will stop it but you could possibly damage either the magazine or the ejector
But unless you SLAM it in really hard, the magazine catch should catch and hold it before it get to the ejector.


Try it first and then decide for yourself. You can always add the "doughnuts" that stop them from entering too far later if you feel the need.

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