That's it. That does it.


PDA

MicroBalrog
March 7, 2003, 01:32 PM
http://www.gunguys.com/sotm.htm
:fire: :fire: :fire:
That's it. Somebody stop those losers!:D

If you enjoyed reading about "That's it. That does it." here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!
seeker_two
March 7, 2003, 01:50 PM
Hey, at least they gave Oleg's site some exposure...:cool:

PAshooter
March 7, 2003, 02:09 PM
The author refers to:

...gun-lock hating market of men and women who measure their manhood by the length of their weapons.

What's up with that? Why is it that almost every single anti-gun rant you read has this (or some similar) derisive phallic reference? I know lots and lots of folks who enjoy collecting / shooting / hunting / and competing with firearms, and to each and every one of them a gun is something you collect / shoot / hunt with / or compete with - not a substitute for some anatomical feature.

Hey Tam, Runt: do you measure your "manhood" by the length of your weapons?

These rabid anti-gunners clearly have certain issues that have nothing to do with firearms.

Personally, I prefer carbines. And it's got nothing to do with that :D

MicroBalrog
March 7, 2003, 02:14 PM
It's called "projection", mdshooter.:neener:

spacemanspiff
March 7, 2003, 02:15 PM
the same reason the gun grabbers say that "gunowners will go around shooting up people over insults or roadrage if they can concealed carry".
its what they would do if they concealed carry. projection of their fears/fantasies upon others to disguise the fact that they are the ones who would act the way they accuse others of possibly acting.
they are the ones who would pull a gun out because someone cut them off on the highway, and they are the ones who would use a gun as a phallic extension. they say WE are the ones "overcompensating" when we have never indicated that we need to compensate.
it could also be a veiled attempt at hitting on us gunowners.

BerettaNut92
March 7, 2003, 02:22 PM
If that were true I wouldn't be in the market for a .38 with a 1.875" barrel.

Trisha
March 7, 2003, 02:31 PM
They were consigned some time back to the same arena of bottom feeders as Mark Mumsford, an editorialist in San Francisco, who seem to be over-compensating, yes?

After all, as I was born BOTH male and female (and I got rid of the male plumbing as soon as I could - thank Goddess!), I have to laugh at the hysterics of these guys.

Here's a letter I sent to Mark over the S&W 500 - feel free to borrow anything from is any of you might find useful (BTW - I never did hear back from Mark, either. . .):

Mark;

I wanted to write you and thank you for writing such a delightful editorial! It's always heartening to see that the anti-gun crowd is panicking and devolving into hysterical, stereotyping, single-digit IQ desperation.

That you would find it appropriate to author such a piece in good conscience is unfathomable to me - but to each his own. I guess you have to pay the bills, and scribbling something, anything in time to meet a deadline and collect a check keeps you from having to ask for food stamps, yes?

As a disabled woman who works within constraints of health and volunteer obligations to teach basic self-defense to women who've survived violence (everything from basic personal security to basic unarmed combat, to basic firearms safety, selection and responsible use) as well as championing the right of all free Americans to, if they so choose, purchase, carry, use and enjoy firearms of their choice without any government intrusion or oversight whatsoever in the defense of self, family, home and property, community and if called, the defense of our Republic itself, I have to applaud your courage, your apparent eagerness to notify every social predator that you generally abhor firearms.

"I am defenseless," is your litany. That takes guts. The elucidation of other, far more base and shallow concepts in the public forum are less aplaudable, of course - but you likely cash your pay check without a care in the world.

Overall, I'm delighted, though, with your article. With 33 States in our Republic now having some form of "Shall-Issue" concealed carry firearms legislation on the books and a further 11 more having some variant of discretionary permit mechanism, it is predictable that the polarization on this issue of firearms in general would become strident as socialist ideologies so cherished by the willfully defenseless continue to be rejected. Your desperation is revealed, and you did so enthusiastically, albeit with pathetic tastelessness and feeble (lowest common denominator appeal) sound-byte Freudian clichés.

I'd love to own the S&W 500, just for the skill demanded to competently shoot reactive steel targets at 100 yards! I'll have to wait, though, as I have another priority on my firearms wish list, to realize the uniquely American mandate that I own and achieve expertise with a standard battlefield rifle; but I'm torn in as of yet deciding between a Springfield Armory SA9102 M1A Super Match .308, or the Bushmaster XM15 E2SA3 20" .223 rifle.

Maybe I'll just save up and own both, and then, walking with the spirits of millions of other American women who, throughout our history, chose to be able to defend their own lives, families, homes and communities since the birth of our Republic I'll finally be able to go to Thunder Ranch or Gunsite and study the art of the rifle and then truly know I have fulfilled what I feel is our individual obligation to having citizenship.

I'll know I am one of the horrors General Clinton dreaded when Colonial forces drove him back to his King.

Free, armed against any threat, foreign or domestic, resolute, calm and competent - I celebrate the millions of Americans who chose to defy the tyrant, the social predator, the sly deceivers past and present.

I pray you'll never know any crisis that sees you screaming and cowering in nerveless terror from absolute helplessness when the social predator advances, because if none immediately answer and decisively come to your aid, you'll wish you had some way, any way to absolutely stop the evil, the cold attack in time ( and time will be measured in seconds at best).

Even the S&W 500.

Sincerely;
Trisha Marie Neimi

Pagan, Lesbian, Life Member of Gun Owners of America

tcdrennen
March 7, 2003, 02:37 PM
I note they haven't the cojones to actually say who they really are or where any support donations go. :scrutiny:

Another Brady/VPC/Emily'sList/Democratic Party front, I suspect. :barf:

Too bad they snagged the domain name. Hmmm. I wonder if gunguys.org and gunguys.net are available.... :evil:

Okay, according to whois, here is the source of the evil:

Gun Guys.com
Mike Magnum
P.O. Box 618354
Chicago, Il 60661
US
Phone: 312-474-0461
Email: gunguys@gunguys.com

in case anyone would like to discuss "Mike Magnum's" positions other than bu email.

Average Guy
March 7, 2003, 02:38 PM
Y'know what's beautiful? The Bakersfield Californian on Wednesday featured that .50 actual size on page D1, in a story about S&W's comeback. And there was a smaller picture on the front page, above the headline. I showed my wife and said, "THIS is why Bakersfield is still an OK place to live."

Oh, and SURE that thing is concealable. :rolleyes:

[edited for redundancy]

Nightfall
March 7, 2003, 02:41 PM
http://www.gunguys.com/archives/sotm/sotm_0702.htm

"Now let's stop and ask the Gun Guys to use their heads……I know it's asking a lot. The kid in the photo might be aiming his assault rifle at:

A) U.N. forces in black helicopters coming to take his father's handgun
B) His father's ugly mug that his friends keep teasing him about
C) Osama Bin Laden
D) Students he doesn't like who might tragically make the 6:00 News in body bags"

The fact that they assume that this is what a kid with a rifle is aiming at, says a lot about their stereotyping and bigotry towards anyone holding a scary looking weapon. I wonder if there was ever a time when people would assume it's a kid at the range with his dad enjoying some shooting... I'm too young to really remember such times. Sad they would come to the assumption that a child is contemplating cold blooded mass murder of school mates rather than having some fun putting holes in a paper target based on the rifle he is holding. :(

MicroBalrog
March 7, 2003, 02:46 PM
Why don't try the Sam Spade whois program or similar?

Silver Bullet
March 7, 2003, 02:48 PM
as well as the gun nuts and assorted losers who launched an all out campaign and boycott to stop Smith & Wesson from preventing unintentional child shootings
Hey, who says I'm assorted ?

:)

John G
March 7, 2003, 03:21 PM
Mom always said: "God loves stupid people, He sure made a lot of 'em."


EDIT: I just noticed they have a page dealing with Oleg's site. Oh-oh...

Anti-Oleg Page (http://www.gunguys.com/archives/sotm/sotm_0702.htm)

Russ
March 7, 2003, 04:07 PM
Average Guy,

Glad to hear that about the Bakersfield Californian. The owners of that paper lean a bit to the left. I lived in B town for 12 years before I moved here. It is a good place to live. Gets awful hot in the Summer but real estate is cheap and the place is 85% Republican. I only met one person there who admitted voting for Clintoon.

Russ

Elmer Snerd
March 7, 2003, 04:08 PM
Is "Mike Magnum" a blissninny, a satirist, or a blissninny who thinks that he's a satirist?

4v50 Gary
March 7, 2003, 04:13 PM
If we really measured our manhood by barrel length, how many of us wouldn't want a 14.5" M-4, or an HK-94 with a short barrel like the MP-5 instead of that 16" ski pole barrel? If that were the true test, we wouldn't be drawn to pistols like the Glock, Sig-Sauer, HK, Browning, etc. Snubby revolvers wouldn't be something we'd drool over either.

PAshooter
March 7, 2003, 04:14 PM
a blissninny who thinks that he's a satirist

that one

seeker_two
March 7, 2003, 06:07 PM
What's up with that? Why is it that almost every single anti-gun rant you read has this (or some similar) derisive phallic reference?

Guess this explains why I have so many 6" barrel revolvers...:D

Wotta moron...:banghead:

Standing Wolf
March 7, 2003, 08:51 PM
Smith & Wesson would like you to believe their hand cannon is for hunting. If you believe that, you’re probably a member of the Klan, a gun nut, or a Smith & Wesson executive.

Ooooh! Guilt by association! Why, what a truly creative way to persuade people! </sarcasm>

Guy B. Meredith
March 7, 2003, 09:34 PM
"...gun-lock hating market of men and women who measure their manhood by the length of their weapons."

Ooops! Someone's bigotry is showing. Or is it chauvanism? Can't keep the two apart. Two sides of the same coin, I guess.

I guess Mike hasn't noted the endless threads about snubbies. Wonder whether that indicates that we males are candidates for The Operation? Or maybe just don't want to be upstaged?

Hmm. The philisopical implications are just too deep for me.

gk1
March 7, 2003, 09:42 PM
Perhaps a copyright action would hamper "Mike" in his mission? After all, he's clearly an image thief, so perhaps a little publicity (and court time) would be in order?

George

PS- I love the "enough stopping power to drop an elephant from 75 feet" line. It would hardly be useful if the elephant had to be standing on you (or vice versa)! Plus the "police don't know if their vests will stop it" thing is almost too stupid to imagine. Oh well, I guess it's better to have stupid enemies than no enemies at all...

Nightfall
March 7, 2003, 10:00 PM
Smith & Wesson would like you to believe their hand cannon is for hunting. If you believe that, you’re probably a member of the Klan, a gun nut, or a Smith & Wesson executive.

I had a vision of the future... after all the evil assault weapons are gone and handguns are just a memory...

"Remington would like you to believe their rifle is for hunting. If you believe that, you're probably a terrorist, a gun nut, a Remington executive, or a sniper."

Get rid of the Model 700 now! The .300 Win Mag snipers round too!

:rolleyes:

Frank Jones
March 7, 2003, 10:24 PM
Whois query on domain name yields phone number. Reverse lookup on phone number yields BuzzFlash.com (http://www.buzzflash.com/) as site owners.

tcdrennen
March 7, 2003, 10:39 PM
Whois query on domain name yields phone number. Reverse lookup on phone number yields BuzzFlash.com as site owners.

Same P.O. Box in Chicago for snail address, too.

aikidoka-mks
March 7, 2003, 10:50 PM
In chicago? and people wonder why I didnt move to chicago or illinois when i worked there for 8 years while driving from Indiana!

compensating? sure - that is why I want a keltec p32 for very discreet carry.

Mark

Don Gwinn
March 7, 2003, 10:59 PM
Oleg, did they get your permission to use that photo?

aikidoka-mks
March 7, 2003, 11:02 PM
In chicago? and people wonder why I didnt move to chicago or illinois when i worked there for 8 years while driving from Indiana!

compensating? sure - that is why I want a keltec p32 for very discreet carry.

Mark

Marshall
March 7, 2003, 11:05 PM
Hmmmm, I wonder how many people were plowed down in 2002 with a 44 Mag 7 1/2 bbl Revolver, a 480 Ruger in a Revolver, a 454 Casull in a Revolver by their licensed owned?

Wanna bet it's less than were plowed down by soccer mom mini-vans?


:neener:

natedog
March 8, 2003, 09:57 PM
Hey Average Guy, I live in Bakersfield, too. I saw that article and now I can finally comprehend the actual size of it. Where do you shoot? I shoot at both Second Amendmant Sports and 5 Dogs Range.

If you enjoyed reading about "That's it. That does it." here in TheHighRoad.org archive, you'll LOVE our community. Come join TheHighRoad.org today for the full version!