Swiss K-31 "Tactical"


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CentralTexas
February 9, 2005, 03:04 PM
well the K31 I received had a really bad stock. Hard to find a new stock so I used spray on bedliner and I really like it. Opinions?
CT

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CentralTexas
February 9, 2005, 03:06 PM
It says they were attached but????

theCZ
February 9, 2005, 07:24 PM
Let's see some pics man!

41mag
February 9, 2005, 07:33 PM
Somewhere on the other side of the world is an ancient chocolate swilling clockmaker having a heart attack! :neener:

Ash
February 9, 2005, 07:45 PM
8 years back or so Century did the same with Czech Vzor 52 rifles that came out of some nation that had used them and then used them again and then used them up. The stocks were terribly beat up, most with major repairs done. The Century "Wizards" (their term, not mine) used the bedliner and created "Commando" rifles. The finish didn't look bad, kinda synthetic. But, it didn't hold up real well and was prone to cracking and chipping.

Ash

CentralTexas
February 9, 2005, 11:11 PM
retry

Third_Rail
February 9, 2005, 11:13 PM
That's nice!

All I can think for that last pic, though..... "I AM the law." :evil:

LiquidTension
February 9, 2005, 11:17 PM
I used some spray on bedliner on the handguards of my STG. It was the cheap stuff, and it started coming off within a few months. Just behind the gas block the stuff has been blown off, and under the bipod it's scratched off. It's one of those things that's on the "list" to fix.

Black Snowman
February 10, 2005, 02:33 AM
Looks good!

Man, I'm really tempted by the K31. I have my C&R, they aren't that expensive, not sure when I'd ever shoot it though . . . Don't have any kind of "need" for one. Although I really do like straight bolt guns. . . . but my other rifles don't see enough attention as it is.

longrifleman
February 10, 2005, 10:39 AM
Don't have any kind of "need" for one.

I didn't either so I bought two. :neener: Buy one, you won't be disappointed. They are a unique rifle and the opportunity to get something like that for less than $100 can't last long.

secluded
February 10, 2005, 11:21 AM
IMO - these K31's are one of the best bargains in C&R going right now. You can order them for $79.00 and have a great, accurate shooter that always seems to draw attention at the range due to the unique straight pull action. The bores are usually always great since the issue ammo for these rifles, Swiss GP11 is non-corrosive.
The stocks often leave a little to be desired however, mainly due to stacking them in the snow, the moisture tend to give the buttstock the "chewed on by a beaver" appearance. New replacement stocks can be had though if you look around. I know Numrich has them, but they are very expensive. Try a place called Tennessee Gun Parts, they have the best prices I've found on replacement parts and stocks. TNgunparts (http://tngunparts.com)

BTW - I have five of them.

cracked butt
February 10, 2005, 12:49 PM
Wow, that sprayed stock looks very cool.
Time for me to find a k-31 with a really bad stock so I can try this mod myself. :D

Buying a K-31 is a no brainer. Probably the only reason they sell so cheap is that noone on the continent makes commercial ammunition for it, though Hornady makes brass for it. The GP-11 surplus ammo isn't really badly priced, the last brick I bought cost $22 for 60 rounds, though I'm not sure how much the shipping would have been on the ammo alone becuase I orderd it with a rifle, rifle+ammo+shipping cost me $122 from AIM. The ammo is as 'match grade' as any ammo gets, and the rifles aren't too shabby for accuracy either.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/brimic/Picture003.jpg

41mag
February 10, 2005, 01:07 PM
Okay,it looks pretty good.

Where's the rail,laser,tac-lite,& scope though? :D

shoobe01
February 10, 2005, 01:37 PM
One of the good things about wood is you can always clean it up. Even if its chipped or cracked, it can usually be repaired and made to look nice.

I have my share of painted plastic rifles, but that's just so sad for the wood.

CentralTexas
February 10, 2005, 02:28 PM
The bedliner spray is Dupli-Color truck bed coating from PEP Boys.
I've tried several but this is actually great quality and lasting.

This afternoon I'm mounting an Aimpoint on the Weaver Tac Rail on the free float handguards and a forward assist grip. The collapsible stock came out nice too!
;)
CT

longrifleman
February 10, 2005, 05:31 PM
This afternoon I'm mounting an Aimpoint on the Weaver Tac Rail on the free float handguards and a forward assist grip. The collapsible stock came out nice too!

What, no underslung grenade launcher/shotgun/bipod combo?

orangeninja
February 10, 2005, 06:18 PM
Can you post a step by step instructions on how you accomplished this? Looks really cool.

N3rday
February 10, 2005, 11:53 PM
Are there any other straight pull rifles in more...affordable calibers? The K31 is the only straight pull I've ever heard of.

CentralTexas
February 11, 2005, 12:13 AM
they are dead easy to disassemble even without instructions. Online there are manuals or instructions like here-http://www.swissrifles.com/

I stripped it down and smoothed the wood in the worst areas, cleaned it as well as I could and then sprayed it on. Just that simple. The metal bits like the barrel/stock bands etc. got regular spray paint. The only thing I didn't realize was that it won't fill in really significant dings, I should have used wood putty on a couple of spots.
CT

BenW
February 11, 2005, 12:23 AM
Don't have any kind of "need" for one.
Ha ha -- that's a good one Black Snowman. You got that out of "1001 jokes for the C&R holder", didn't you? :D :p

Purism be damned -- that looks really cool CentralTexas!

jefnvk
February 11, 2005, 01:09 AM
Are there any other straight pull rifles in more...affordable calibers? The K31 is the only straight pull I've ever heard of.
There is always the Steyr M95, but in 8x56R, it's hardly more affordable.

RWMC
February 11, 2005, 10:19 PM
Another reason why the K-31's have such nice bores is that if the soldier they were issued to did not take care of them, the soldier had to pay the price for the rifle to be re-barreled! That would motivate me to keep mine clean too! I've got to buy one of these and a Swedish Mauser before they are all gone.

IronLance
February 12, 2005, 12:55 AM
Are there any other straight pull rifles in more...affordable calibers? The K31 is the only straight pull I've ever heard of.

Depends. If you're looking for center-fire only, then you're probably out of luck for affordble caliber.

However, if you don't mind thinking smaller, check this out: Biathlon Rifle (http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976382163.htm)

It's 22LR, I don't think you can get more affordable than that. The action is straight pull. One ofthe local deputies has one and he loves the thing. Very accurate with the right ammo (he swears by PMC Scoremaster ammo).

HTH

Wayde

cracked butt
February 12, 2005, 01:07 AM
Don't have any kind of "need" for one.


Ha ha -- that's a good one Black Snowman. You got that out of "1001 jokes for the C&R holder", didn't you?

That's the doubletalk line I give my wife when I "need" to buy 2 or 3 copies of something. :evil:

Citadel99
February 12, 2005, 05:03 AM
Hmmmmmm. I might have to buy another one just to test it out for myself... That look pretty good.

Mark

greyhound
February 12, 2005, 12:54 PM
My K-31 is my favorite milsurp.

Currently, I am trying to "hoard" all the ammo I can in anticipation of the day that the GP11 is gone. (Man, they musta made a LOT of ammo on 11/30/78!) :)

Currently I've stockpiled 900 rounds and counting....

Dave R
February 12, 2005, 01:18 PM
Are there any other straight pull rifles in more...affordable calibers? The K31 is the only straight pull I've ever heard of.

Depends. If you're looking for center-fire only, then you're probably out of luck for affordble caliber.

Currently, I am trying to "hoard" all the ammo I can in anticipation of the day that the GP11 is gone.

[soapbox on]

Folks, I just gotta say that handloading is a great way to go with these...

Then you can shoot them for the same cost as handloading for .308, .30-06, .30-30 or any other rifle caliber. i.e. half the cost of commercial ammo.

It only costs $120-$350 to get started (depending on whether you want "Chevy" or "BMW" equipment.) You'll make that back in the cost of your first case of ammo.

And then you can reload heavy hunting loads with premium bullets, and also load "lite" plinking rounds at .30-30 levels, or even .30 MI carbine levels.

As a former non-reloader, I can tell you its a mental hurdle, not a financial hurdle or a time hurdle. You can buy 7.5 Swiss brass pretty cheap, or just use .284Win brass, which is widely available. You can crank out 100 rounds in the time it would take you to drive to Sportsman's warehouse and pick it up (if it were available there.)

OK, soapbox off.

Jonathan
February 12, 2005, 02:36 PM
It only costs $120-$350 to get started (depending on whether you want "Chevy" or "BMW" equipment.) You'll make that back in the cost of your first case of ammo.

I would second the recommendation for reloading. Interestingly, my selections for a new reloader come out to exactly $120:

case lube, $6 (http://www.midwayusa.com/rewriteaproduct/519525)
deburring tool, $12
reloading tray, $4
case trimmer (specific for 7.5 swiss), $3 (http://www.midwayusa.com/rewriteaproduct/429046) + $3 (http://www.midwayusa.com/rewriteaproduct/476992)
flash hole uniformer, $10 (http://www.midwayusa.com/rewriteaproduct/729748)
reloading press, $60 (http://www.midwayusa.com/rewriteaproduct/317831)
die set, $22 (http://www.midwayusa.com/rewriteaproduct/625657)


The only thing left out is the scale, which isn't necessary until you feel like playing with load development. As much as I hate to say it, you have minimal returns going from a system like this (http://www.midwayusa.com/rewriteaproduct/943305) to a scale system that costs 10 to 20 times more. And yes, I've used both cheap and expensive powder handling equipment, so this is based on experience.

michiganfan
February 13, 2005, 09:46 AM
The pic reminds of Jack Worden when he played a pistol packing judge. He said something to the effect the books were the law and the gun was the order.

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