[Pocket Ninja]

My friend is buying right now and I need to know quick! I will do search meanwhile.

Thank you!!!!

[raz-0]

depends on what competition and what you are doing. I do believe they result in less backsplatter when shooting steel than FMJ ammo, but more than lead or copper plated. They also have a solid jacket on the bottom, whcih reduced airborne lead when shooting. So if practicing indoors or practicing in large volume, that matters to some competitors.

Those are about it as far as valid answers I ahve gotten to the same question.

[Jeeper]

Accuracy....The theory is that JHP fly straighter since there is a hole in the end which helps with drag and rotation. Look at most match rifle bullets and they all have a small hole. Same principal. I use JHP but I tested them first and they were more accurate out of my gun that the CMJ, or FMJ's. I also liked that they caused less smoke than FMJ's since the end is not lead. Of course CMJ's solve that problem.

[30Cal]

The easiest bullet to manufacture from a uniformity standpoint is the JHP. That's the reason. If you could make FMJs as consistantly as you could a JHP, they'd fly just as straight.

Ty

[psyopspec]

If it's a competition where you're shooting a gun that would also be carried, you have the advantage of getting good practice/testing done with your carry ammo.

[lycanthrope]

It's only better if it shoots well in your gun......otherwise......it's not.

In competition, the only things that matter are reliability and accuracy when it comes to bullets.

[Pocket Ninja]

Whoa. Just amazing you guys are. I am going to reload first time and have to do it very carefully. Thank you so much!

[Sheldon]

I think it has more to do with the bases of the bullets on the HP being much more uniform than the FMJ bullets which are open based. Same goes for the rifle bullets. The open tip really has nothing to do with it and is just a byproduct of how it is punched out of the forming dies.

[Fed168]

They cut cleaner holes on paper, easier to score.

[Correia]

Depends on the competition. For IDPA/IPSC I stick with cheap cast lead semi-wadcutters because of cost.

[Wakal]

I shoot JHP in my competition guns because of the solid base. No lead fouling in the compensator ;)

Of course, if you don't shoot much, then it is all moot anyway.





Alex

[mpthole]

If they're easier to manufacture, why are JHP bullets more expensive than ball/jacketed?

[30Cal]

If they're easier to manufacture, why are JHP bullets more expensive than ball/jacketed?

They're easier to manufacture consistantly. There's still quite a bit of more process control and QA that goes into a match bullet (+/- 0.1grs) than a fodder FMJ bullet (+/- 1.0grs).

Ty

[Nitram68]

115 vs. 124 gr? :what:

[Sunray]

Find out if the competitions you and your buddy intend to shoot allow jacketed bullets before you buy anything. Especially if it's an indoor range. Then go buy some swaged or plain old cast bullets. JHP's are too expensive to shoot regularly.

[Wakal]

Too expensive? Ummm...depends on what you are doing. My wife and I run through 3,000-5,000 Montana Gold 115 grain JHP's a month. Like I said earlier in this thread, JHP's don't foul a comp like a open-based jacketed bullet.

But I'm working on my GM card ("don't leave home without it"), and my wife wants at least an A.

And if you don't know what I meant by that line, then you don't shoot enough real competition :neener:




Alex

[TexasRifleman]

Yeah, I know what it means. I barely managed to hang onto my B card this year to year so I'm mucho impressed!!

[wanderinwalker]

Alex,

I shoot plenty of competition, just it's NRA Highpower Rifle, so I just barely get your meaning.

I know that in the rifle bullets, the base is easier to control and form properly on a JHP instead of a FMJ. I've heard enough people claim that you can clean the 200 and 300 with 55gr FMJ surplus and never deliver that I am pretty sure the JHPs are the better choice. Of course, I don't really know much about shooting a rifle, the NRA just mixed up the scores when it issued me a Master-card. ;)

But all else being equal, accuracy is the final indicator of a bullet's suitability to your game.

[Wakal]

Different game...

I'm pretty happy with a 3"/fifty yard pistol, and I do fairly well. That sort of accuracy isn't going to win in rifle matches, though :D

I suspect that we have hit wildly divergent tangents in our discussion, which resulted in confusion on my end. I was talking about USPSA/IPSC type pistol competition, where lead fouling in compensators will really muck things up (and reduce compensator efficiency) in 5-10,000 rounds. You are talking about long range ballistic efficiency, and I must (of course) defer to your superior knowledge with regard to that game :) While I dabble in rifles enough to have my long guns doped out to my longest available local range (900 yards), I'm no Master in service (or unlimited) rifle!




Alex