Lost
BluesBear
February 17, 2005, 05:31 AM
or
The A-Mazing Magical Morphing Revolver
I was watching the latest episode of LOST tonight on ABC.
Without going into way too detail for those who haven't seen it and wasting too muchbandwidth for those who have let me just say that the lives of the plane crash survivors are learned through flashbacks.
One of the survivors had travelled to Australia to kill the man he thought had killed his father.
Once there he buys a revolver on the black market.
The seller says something to the effect of, "When a man buys a 357 Magnum revolver with hollow point bullets he ain't looking to rob and steal. he's looking to kill someone." So after taking the money he hands Sawrer a 2½ blued S&W Model 19 with Pachmayr grips.
Sawyer opened the cylinder and gives it a spin. Of course we hear the requsite brtttttttttttt of a Colt Single Action as it spins. :rolleyes:
So far so good.
Once he gets to the place for the killing he reaches in his pocket and pulls out a blued 2" .38 Special third generation Colt Detective Special. :eek:
Later he again pulls out the revolver only to have it change again, IN MID SCENE! :what:
I understand that it's only a TV show but,
Just how much disbelief am I supposed to suspend? :scrutiny:
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only1asterisk
February 17, 2005, 05:34 AM
I'm just suprised you were able to watch that show for so long!
David
scbair
February 17, 2005, 08:07 AM
Yeah, I'm just glad it didn't "morph into a Glock!! :D
I also distinctly recall one scene when (I swear!) he swung the cylinder open . . . to the right side . . . :eek:
I was stunned; didn't know Colt, Ruger, or S&W made a "left-handed" DA revolver. ;)
I just couldn't figure out if the image was reversed for artistic reasons :confused: or out of pure incompetence. Anyone care to hazard a guess??? :scrutiny:
kimbernut
February 17, 2005, 08:35 AM
Yeah! I caught the right swing cylinder too. I was hoping this was something new. Had to laugh.
Elkslayer
February 17, 2005, 10:34 AM
I saw that right swinging cylinder also, thought to my self "damn, I didn't know they made them that way". Commented about it to my wife, she just rolled her eyes since detail like that is not important to her.
HarryB
February 17, 2005, 11:56 AM
Revolvers "down under" do open to the right. Just like drains and toilets go opposite ways to here in the US.
larryf1952
February 17, 2005, 02:03 PM
My wife and daughters get very upset with me when I have to comment on each gun I see, or every gun gaffe that I notice in the shows that we watch together. One of my favorites is watching for slides that lock back on semiautos during gun battles, then they're back in action and shooting away again, with no hint of a magazine change. My grown daughter says, "Leave it to the old gun nerd to notice stuff like that!" They won't EVEN watch "Saving Private Ryan" with me. :neener:
Boats
February 17, 2005, 02:36 PM
We should be thanking the producers of Lost for last night's episode.
Yes, the instachange revolver with SA cylinder noises was stupid, but only we gun nuts are going to notice.
However, nearly everyone can understand the scene where Sawyer acquired that minty Model 19 with hollowpoints:
[Paraphrasal]
"Australians aren't allowed to have guns like this."
Sawyer just pays the criminal cash for a weapon that is not supposed to exist Down Under, (the barrel is too short under Aussie law, the caliber is too manly and that revolver should have been "turned in" and destroyed by now), and he is rolling.
LESSON?
GUN CONTROL IS TO CONTROL YOU, NOT CRIMINALS WHO WILL JUST IGNORE THE LAW.
Sawyer goes and shoots an unarmed man at night in a seemingly remote location.
LESSON?
GUN CONTROL WILL GET YOU KILLED. Where was a cop when "Frank" needed one the most?
So kudos to Lost. You got the gun's technical details wrong, so you are par for the course by Hollyweird standards, but you nailed the political stupidity of the Brady crowd's positions, even if it was inadvertant. :evil:
Arc-Lite
February 17, 2005, 02:57 PM
public tv, you pay for what you get.
BluesBear
February 17, 2005, 03:05 PM
I noticed the right swing cylinder but since I was laughing too hard at the sound I thought perhaps we were lookingin a mirror.
However, upon reflection (pun intended) I realize that Sawyer is LEFT HANDED. He always holds guns in his left hand.
Perhaps they had him use his right hand and then flipped it so it would appear he was still using his left hand?
The only revolver I have ever seen with a right swing cylinder was an old Clerke Technicorp pot metal POS .22 short.
Matt-man
February 18, 2005, 10:48 PM
Cars in Australia are right-hand drive. They shot that scene in a left-hand drive car and then flipped it so it looked like it was shot in Australia.
P95Carry
February 18, 2005, 11:24 PM
B - b - b - ut ... it's a revolver. Framey thingie - barrel thingie and the thingie wot holds the ''bullets''. Only one sort of them ain't there??
Ya mean ... there's different MAKES amd MODELS. But they all look the same, until the director or producer decide otherwise! :D (mid scene! :rolleyes: )
Any more subscribers - for the ''cringe club'' ?? :p
Stainz
February 19, 2005, 07:22 AM
I enjoyed the old 'Combat!' TV series when it started appearing on DIRECTV some years ago. It has been a long time since my HS years and it's first airing. The commercial break bridges really lost continuity. On one, Sarge (Vic Morrow) was captured by a German officer in a farm house with a Luger in one scene, only to fade out and back in to him holding a 1911 (Sarge had only his Thompson... and a fresh clean shirt.). Still, it was interesting to see those old shows again... may have to get the DVD's now that they are out.
"Lost" is full of interesting switch scenes... lots of real world questions. Are they controlled by aliens, or is this their collective consciousness as they all suffocate from lack of oxygen as the plane parts fall from the sky? Better yet, is it just a case of a poor thought out pilot that actually made it - and they really don't know where to go from here? Whatever, it beats the heck out of 'reality'-based TV. If I turn the tube on, I don't want a 'message', I want entertainment... a place for my mind to wander while I clean revolvers.
Stainz
Hardtarget
February 19, 2005, 11:54 PM
I've not been watching "Lost' so I don't know much about the show. I do notice the gun related mess ups whenever I'm watchingTV and like others have said, I get flack from wifey when I make comment. After one goof that I just could not let pass...then her comment...I asked her " if we were watching a show and a woman walked by with her bra on the outside of her blouse...wouldn't you have SOMETHING to say?...silence after that...but there was a grin. Now we both look for the goofs 'cause there are lots of them.
Mark.
Lone Star
February 20, 2005, 10:51 AM
I do think and believe that the Modele d'Ordnance 1892 (Lebel) 8mm French revolver has a cylinder that swngs out to the right....ce n'est pas?
But I doubt that one will appear on that silly, "Lost" show.
I quit watching. Each episode takes too much time to tell too little. I don't even like most of the characters. But if they let the cat out of the (liberal) bag on gun control, however accidentally, I'm for it!
Lone Star
Master Blaster
February 21, 2005, 11:38 AM
I think its an entertaining show but in a season or two it will get old fast.
How likely is it that a federal marshall would be carrying 5 identical sig sauers p 228s and a couple hundred rounds of 9 mm.
The show did portray folks defending themselves from attackers, and a polar bear SUCCESFULLY with a hand gun.
An waht about that bank scene where our heroine takes out three armed robbers, after pretending that she did not know how to handle a pistol..
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