.308 Win - Pet loads?


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RugerOldArmy
February 21, 2005, 01:04 AM
I'd appreciate some accuracy loads for, for a new CZ 550 Varmint if anybody has one.

On hand, I've got:

Powder: Varget, IMR 4064, IMR 4895
Primers: CCI 200 Large Rifle and Winchester WLR
Cases: Winchester
Bullets: Sierra Matchking 168 Gr BTHP, Sierra Matchking 150 Gr BTHP, Nosler Ballistic tip 150 Gr BT

This is a heavy 25.6" barrel mauser.

I'm loading in a Dillon RL550B, so what meters well is preferred.

Any help is appreciated.

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Wildalaska
February 21, 2005, 01:16 AM
190 grain Sierra Match King, 41 grains RL 15, Fed 210M primer, OAL 2.8

Duplicates Hirtenberger Match load at about 730MS

Im gettin 5 shot one icnh groups

WildwhatimplayingwithrightnowAlaska

RugerOldArmy
February 21, 2005, 01:32 AM
WildIthoughtYouFolksInAlaskaUsed416RigbyForSquirrelsMyGod.308Win?,

You know, I took an hour drive each way looking for Reloder 15 today, and settled on IMR 4064 as a consolation. I'll make a note, but need to use what I've got for the moment, having just sprung for the 550, scope, and rings.

I'm just wondering what the BC is on that Matchking 190 Gr BTHP...

You have a CZ 550 Varmint Wild? This thing seems sweet, set trigger, controlled feed and all.

Thanks...

RugerOldArmySubmitsThatThe1911IsTheUltimateHandgunNotTheBHP

dakotasin
February 21, 2005, 02:16 AM
rl-15 and varget are awfully close together...

anyway, my target 308 load is varget, win cases, cci br-2 primers, and hornady 168 a-max.

cracked butt
February 21, 2005, 09:01 AM
I use 41.0 gr 4064 with a 168 smk, its a light recoiling and accurate load in my .308.

larryw
February 21, 2005, 11:58 AM
42.0gr of 4895 behind a 168gr SMK is the M852* load that is duplicated by Federal as "Gold Match", Black Hills, etc.. ;)

*TM 43-0001-27; ARMY AMMUNITION DATA SHEETS; Page 11-30

Black Snowman
February 21, 2005, 12:13 PM
My CZ 550 VL liked 186 gr Speer moly coated HPBT pushed by 42.2 gr of Varget in military brass with a CCI LR primer. I've since sold the gun but my A-Bolt Eclipse will get 100 yard clover leafs with that load. I don't have a longer range available to shoot at so I can't tell what long range performance looks like.

I'm going to try the same combo with the Hornady equivilant bullet. I've really gotten to like the "bang for the buck" of the Hornady bullets lately. I might try some of the A-Max bullets next. Unless I'm trying new loads the gun is just boringly consistant and I can't find a reason to shoot it. ;)

Richard.Howe
February 21, 2005, 01:00 PM
Every time a "pet loads" post goes up, I'm surprised how many responders do not include either the OAL, or at least spacing from the lands, in their recipes. This is a pretty dang important dimension!

I'd be curious to know these data points in future responses to this 308 thread.

Thanks all!
Rich

Wildalaska
February 21, 2005, 02:16 PM
Since I am usoing an SSG I am limited by mag lenth

WildsofollowfactoryspecexactlyAlaska

larryw
February 21, 2005, 04:53 PM
Isn't the ideal COL determined by careful measurement of the individual rifle's chamber and leade and carefully working from there?

WhatwildalaskathewiseoneSaid.

30Cal
February 21, 2005, 05:42 PM
As always, your milage may vary. Start low and work up.

I do well with 41.5grs IMR4895, WLR, LC brass under a 168 at 2.825" (~10 thou off the lands). I use Nosler J4's and Sierra 168's interchangably.

RugerOldArmy
February 21, 2005, 11:16 PM
Thanks for all the replies...a lot of good data.

More endless questions:

- Does IMR 4064 and/or IMR 4895 meter well? After getting some, I heard tell that it doesn't meter well in a Dillon. Dunno if this was a specific case, but this will be the first time I've tried extruded cylinder powders. Worst come to worst, I can experiment with Varget first (which I hear isn't a bad thing).

- OAL: In general, is it save to assume, for most of the input posted, that OAL was 2.81" or so? I can chamber a dummy round, and see if any grooves are on the bullet. (Haven't loaded much rifle). My general pistol loading philosophy was to choose an OAL within MAX OAL, short of the lands, that was the longest which would feed reliably (and not below any min OAL load data).

- Any reasonably safe primer substitutions if I start 10% or so low. I've got standard WLR and CCI Large Rifle primers?

- Taper crimp. Any idea what is an appropriate case mouth OD with Winchester .308 brass?

- Belling the case prior to seating? I assume I'd minimize this, especially with boattails?

- Anybody have any 100-125 Gr Varmint favorite loads? There are some interesting ones in Speer 13. Dunno how well the little bullets would do in .308

Thanks much. Dies should be here soon...

cracked butt
February 21, 2005, 11:54 PM
- Taper crimp. Any idea what is an appropriate case mouth OD with Winchester .308 brass?
Don't crimp, it will only hurt accuracy, and it certainly isn't necessary in a bolt gun.

- Belling the case prior to seating? I assume I'd minimize this, especially with boattails?
If you debur and chamfer the mouths, you don't need to bell them. It can be slightly helpfull with flatbased bullets though, I use a Lyman 'M' die for this.


- Any reasonably safe primer substitutions if I start 10% or so low. I've got standard WLR and CCI Large Rifle primers?

I use WLRs and federal 210s interchangebly, but I don't use maximum loading either.


- OAL: In general, is it save to assume, for most of the input posted, that OAL was 2.81" or so? I can chamber a dummy round, and see if any grooves are on the bullet. (Haven't loaded much rifle). My general pistol loading philosophy was to choose an OAL within MAX OAL, short of the lands, that was the longest which would feed reliably (and not below any min OAL load data).

If you force a bullet into the lands, it might pull back out of hte case when you extract it, giving you a false reading. In a lot of .308 short action rifles, the magazine length is too short to allow seating anywhere near the lands. If you want to single load the rifle, you will need to measure the distance to the lands. There are several methods, one involves marking and measuring a wooden dowel in the bore, I won't get into this one as I haven't used this method in 5 or 6 years and can't remember the specifics, the easy way is to get a Stoney Point tool with a matching .308 threaded case. Opinions will vary on this subject, but if I were going to use a progressive press, I would set the seating die to seat at least .020" off the lands, as there are tolerances in reloading and in the bullets themselves, and you don't want the bullets creeping too close to the lands.


- Does IMR 4064 and/or IMR 4895 meter well? After getting some, I heard tell that it doesn't meter well in a Dillon. Dunno if this was a specific case, but this will be the first time I've tried extruded cylinder powders. Worst come to worst, I can experiment with Varget first (which I hear isn't a bad thing).

IMR4895 meters poorly and IMR 4064 meters worse. They work fine for me as I reload the cartridges on a single stage press and have a lot of practice with a RCBS uniflo measure. You might want to try H-4895
as the grains are about 1/2 as long as in the IMR powders.

RugerOldArmy
February 22, 2005, 12:15 AM
Thanks for the detailed reply full of good info Cracked Butt. A lot to think about. Looks like I should hand weigh any IMR loads, and take a look at the stoney-point tool.

Not even a light taper crimp to avoid setback on recoil? I've crimped everything so far...

cracked butt
February 22, 2005, 02:05 AM
You'll have enough neck tension with the .308 that you don't have to worry about setback.

Zak Smith
February 22, 2005, 12:06 PM
155gr SMK, 46.5gr VARGET, then work up if you want
2.800", Winchester cases, Rem #9.5
duplicates MV of the Lapua 155gr factory load

175gr SMK, 44.0gr VARGET, then work up if you want
2.800",Winchester cases, Rem #9.5
about 20fps slower than FGMM 175gr

-z

30Cal
February 22, 2005, 12:42 PM
Don't crimp match bullets. If you have bullets setting back under recoil, then your sizing die is messed up.

I don't bell rifle cases unless we're talking about cast lead bullets.

As far as metering, IMR4895 does OK, 4064 is a little worse, but you shouldn't have trouble getting 1MoA loads straight out of the powder measure with either (even with about 0.3grs variation in charge weights). For grins, you may want to weigh one batch and compair the results on paper to a batch where you use the charges as they drop from the measure. The key to getting consistant charges out of the Dillon measure is to operate the press smoothly and consistantly. If you jar the press or do something out of sequence, expect that the next charge or two will be flakey (by about 0.5grs). I find it's best to run with only one round on the shellplate. I also get better consistancy if I tap the powder measure body with a knuckle prior to running a shell up into the powder die. I also keep the cylinder at least half full with powder. The only match loads that I weigh individually are the ones I use at 600yds.

I recommend polishing the inside of the powder funnel (the one inside the powder die). This will keep powder from bridging (lodging) in there and dumping all over the bench.

Ty

Zak Smith
February 22, 2005, 12:48 PM
You know what, I was throwing charges from my regular RCBS powder measure and getting 5-shot velocity standard deviations between 3 and 6 fps for two different loads. (VARGET)

-z

Dave R
February 23, 2005, 02:51 PM
FWIW, my Rem700 in .308 likes this Varget load. Its relatively inexpensive, using Speer's cheapest 150gr. bullet.

Win brass
CCI 200 primer
47 gr. of Varget (MAX LOAD in Speer No.13--work up carefully)
Speer 150gr. Hot Cor
OAL 2.82. MAY BE TOO LONG for some rifles. Mine has a long throat and mag.

CAUTION: The following post includes loading data right at currently published maximums for this cartridge. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Neither the writer, The High Road, nor the staff of THR assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information.

molonlabe
February 23, 2005, 03:43 PM
Sierra 168gr BTHP behind Federal Match primers with 40gr of 3031. Deburr the flash hole. I am currently neck sizing for my bolt rifle only. OAL depends on your rifle. Weigh each charge. 40gr +/- 0

PS for my bolt gun. The pressure curve may not be right for an M1A.

RugerOldArmy
February 23, 2005, 08:16 PM
Thanks for the additional loads Zak, 30 Cal, Dave, Molonlabe.

I'm still waiting for the toolplate etc. from Dillon.

I did get 300 Hornady 110 Gr. VMAX on an impluse too. So I'm sitting here with 500 virgin cases, 3 kinds of powders, 2 kinds of primers, and four kinds of bullets....damn, I can't wait to load some test batches and get out on the range.

My sons are amazed at the difference in shape between those 168 Gr SMKs and good ol .45 ACP hardball ;)

larryw
February 24, 2005, 10:18 PM
On the Dillon 550, the toolplate and locating pins for the 308 and 45 are the same and only the powder-die funnel gizmo was required.

RugerOldArmy
February 24, 2005, 10:47 PM
LarryW, Good advice, and you're right. I did get a quick change kit too though, with another toolhead, powder measure, dies, toolhead holder, some new blue bins, extra primer tubes, etc.

I was impressed that Dillon actually talked me out of the carbide rifle dies. They guy I talked to said they were a 'huge waste of money' and that 'I don't use 'em and I have a huge discount'. Great company.

Richard.Howe
February 26, 2005, 05:07 PM
My .308 Winchester deer load:

Laupa brass (fire-formed :D ) neck-only sized w/ Redding dies and trimmed to 2.006"
46.0 gr Varget
150 gr. Barnes Triple Shock
COAL = 2.830" +/- 0.005" (this corresponds to a hair less than 0.050" jump to lands)
Federal 210M primer

Mine run at ~2840 fps from a Steyr SBS Mountain (20" bbl), and generally hold within 1/2" to 5/8" at 100 yds.

Using all the above-listed components yielded the following 3-shot group spreads while varying the Varget charge:

43 gr: 1-1/4"
44 gr: 1-1/2"
45 gr: 0-7/8"
46 gr: 0-1/2"
47 gr: 1-3/4"
48 gr: 2"+

I reckon there's some truth in them thar barrel harmonics theories...which means that this load is meaningless for any rifle other than my own.

I wonder if there's a second harmonic node out there above 50 gr? ...oh, wait, I value my intact head too much to find out.

Best of luck!
Rich

RugerOldArmy
February 26, 2005, 05:52 PM
The dies, quick change kit, etc. came today. The first reloads are created.

For the moment I just created some light-ish cartridges to sight in the new rifle.

Win cases.
42.5 Gr Varget
WLR primers
168 Gr. Sierra BTHP
2.795" OAL

:)

I'll work up some test batches later tonight.

RugerOldArmy
March 18, 2005, 11:06 PM
Dunno if this is a particularly impressive target. But I was pretty happy last weekend when I got to run the first shots through my new CZ550, and my first .308 reloads. This was a VERY cold day, so I only managed to get on paper and near to zero. But as you can see, the first reloads shot nice groups. You can see the five scope adjustments as I zeroed in a bit.

http://home.comcast.net/~gregrgasser/cz550.jpg

I develop this load further, and work on my shooting.

Sam Adams
December 1, 2005, 12:45 PM
Any further load development? Enquiring minds want to know....

USSR
December 1, 2005, 12:59 PM
M118LR brass
Winchester WLR primer
Lapua 170gr D46 bullet
42.5gr IMR4895 pulldown powder
2.845 OAL
2785fps

Rifle is an FN SPR with 26" barrel and McMillan A5 stock. 5 shot 100 yard group below measures about .39MOA. Quite happy with this load.;)

Don
http://people.clarityconnect.com/webpages3/ussr/target2004A.jpg

djl4570
December 1, 2005, 08:55 PM
In five different rifles I've tried the following with excellent results.
FC Cases, FC210M Primers
44.4g Hodgdon Varget
168g Nosler J4 or 168g Sierra MK.
2.800 to 2.825 OAL

I've loaded the same load in RWS, Norma, Lapua and Hirtenberger cases with excellent results.

Shoots better than FC Gold Medal Match in every rifle I've tried it in.

1911 guy
December 2, 2005, 08:30 AM
My go-to load right now is 44 grains of Varget under a Speer 150 grain SP with CCI primer. Case is a surplus marked "CAVIN 92" and loaded to 1.807" OAL. I'll have to play with the charge and perhaps OAL soon as I'll need to switch to Winchester cases after the last of my mil-surp cases get tossed out. I've only got 90 left.:(

ping
December 2, 2005, 09:52 PM
The load you worked up is real close to the one I use at the range. Excellent accuracy. Sub moa.

win cartridge
44.0 grains of Varget
coal 2.80
primer WLR
168 grain Sierra HPBT.
Rifle: Savage
I also use one of those electric digital PAC powder feeder and scale. Varget feeds perfect on each load.

I have begun to experiment getting closer to the lands but so far no any real difference in accuracy.

ATAShooter
December 3, 2005, 07:11 PM
175gr BTHP Sierra Matchking #2275
39.0 Alliant Reloader 15
WLR winchester primer
OAL 2.80

Rifle: Remington 700VS
:D :D :D

Zak Smith
December 3, 2005, 09:40 PM
My match load is a 155gr Lapua Scenar (bc 0.508), 45.2gr Varget (or N140) in a Lapua case and a 210M. 2830fps, duplicates the Lapua factory load. Otherwise you can run it up to 2900fps in a 24". (Or 2910fps with 45.6gr IMR4895)

Farnham
December 3, 2005, 10:07 PM
I guess I'm the odd man out on powder...

168gr SMK or Nosler HPBT or Nosler/Win Ballistic Tips (the Ballistic Tips shoot about 1" higher at 200 yards for some reason. BC?)

Rem brass

Win WLR primer

43.7gr Win748

OAL exactly the same as FGMM (I set the seating die on one)

No chrono data, but consistent 3" groups at 200 yards from my Savage 10FP.

S/F

Farnham

scotty
December 3, 2005, 10:12 PM
In my 26" Winchester model 70 I first tried Federal 168gr Gold Medal match ammo which shoots very accurately and runs at 2700 from this rifle.

After trying various loads with varying sucess, I decided to try matching the velocity of the Federal ammo with the same Sierra bullet. I find that my rifle likes this bullet at around this velocity.

168gr Sierra Matchking
45.0gr Varget
2.845" OAL This is as long as will comfortably fit the magazine.
2750 feet per second.

Groups are a bit smaller than with the Federal ammo.

dan12
October 16, 2007, 01:54 AM
Hi guys,

I made loads for my CZ550 :

Sierra 168gr HPBT
39,5 gr of 2015
OAL 2,87" or 73mm (I know that recommended is 2,8")

I was trying to make lenght about 72-72,5mm but nothing changed in accuracy.Then I decided to make a bit longer and got much more better.

What do you think about this OAL, isn't to long I mean regarding safety ?

thanks

stubbicatt
October 16, 2007, 09:10 AM
A lot of guys are having good results with 43 grains of Varget and 168 grain bullets.

Hutch
October 16, 2007, 10:11 AM
As long as the round will feed thru the magazine, and you are not jamming it into the lands, there's no danger associated with exceeding the OAL. The remaining case volume will be increased, which will affect pressure and other factors. I have had great success with H380 and the 168 SMK. My load delivers right at 2600fps out of my 26" 700VS.

huntershooter
October 16, 2007, 12:17 PM
150 gr. Noler BT (or Accubond), 47.5 gr. Varget, Fed. 210M, 2.830"OAL, Winchester brass. 2820 fps out of a 22" (Kimber) barrel. 5/8" groups @ 100 yds.

McGlockster
October 17, 2007, 01:39 AM
Thanks for getting this thread going RugerOldArmy. I also just bought a CZ 550 Varmint (Laminate) in .308, and am developing my fist batch of reloads. I'm new to reloading, so I'm interested in hearing opinions as to what I've come with at this point.

I used a hacksaw to cut into the neck of a case, and then (after deburring the neck/mouth) placed a Nosler 168 gr. Custom Competition HPBT in the mouth of the casing. Using this concocted gauge it would appear that the bullet comes into contact with the rifling at 2.861". I repeated the process five times to ensure that I got this measurement consistently. So, I'm thinking of starting off with an O.A.L. of 2.831".

My Hornady, Lee and Lyman manuals have differing load ranges for this bullet weight using H-Varget though:

Lee - 42.0 to 46.0 gr.
Hornady - 32.6 to 44 gr.
Lyman - 41 to 45.7

I'll be using Winchester brass (yes, WildAlaska I'll be getting Lapua once I get the hang of it! :o), Remington 9 1/2 primers, and I'm not crimping at this point. Soooo, I'm thinking I'll start at 42 gr. and work up to 44 gr. to see what shoots best in the CZ. Thoughts from other CZ users?
Thanks.

McCZDoesIt......

Owens
October 17, 2007, 07:28 AM
I don't know what the twist rate on the CZ550 is and that has a lot to do with it. The load I use in Rem 700PSS is:
168 Nosler seated .030" off of lands
Lapua brass, fire formed to chamber, trimmed to length then only partially neck sized thereafter.
41.0g Varget (weighed, not thrown)
Federal match primers
No crimp
Chrono: avg is 2560 FPS
VERY accurate. I use this load and FA in local friendly bench matches.
At 100Y, have shot a number of .3?? groups, .75? at 200Y

However, what works for me may not work for you. One thing I have heard and discovered to be true when using a powder drop is that it's not as important as how well a powder meters, but how consistently you work the mechanism.

GunTech
October 17, 2007, 08:47 AM
I am currently using the following load, which delivers 1/4 MOA from my 40x and only has a drop of 32 MOA at 1000 yards

155gn Lapua Scenars
46gn RL-15
WW brass
CCI BR-2 primers

It delivers 2700 fps from my 20 inch barrel

Note that the 155gn Lapua Scenars have a BC of 0.505, about the same as the 175gn SMK, and can be pushed much faster. This load is suitable even for slow twist 1:12 barrels

RugerOldArmy
October 17, 2007, 08:51 AM
Well, this thread seems to have risen from the dead. I remember working up loads for the CZ. It didn't take long to find a load that shot well. One interesting point, this is about the only rifle I have that shoots best without a jam into the lands. (I primarily use SMK).

Once I hit on this load I adopted it. I still have the target pics:

45 Gr. Varget
Win Brass
WLR
SAMII OAL
http://home.comcast.net/~gregrgasser/cz550.jpg

The 175 Gr SMK(s) shoot just as well and have a better BC. They are my primary bullet now for that rifle. I've also found that RL-15 shoots as well as Varget

dan12
October 17, 2007, 09:40 AM
to McGlockster :
hi buddy,
I have the same CZ as yours and I played with dummy catridge and I found out that 2,927" is getting touched to lands, I used 168gr Sierra HPBT on dummy catridge.

Anyway,
Ive made a few rounds with OAL 2.874" or and it made bloody difference than 2.83" so you can go to 2.874 without problems.
Sure, there is only one problem, you can't put it to magazine.
I noticed 2.84" is the last length you can put to magazine on 550 varmint

to all : guys, what the minimal length of your 308 case do you use ?

pdh
October 17, 2007, 10:16 AM
42.0gr...Reloder 15...2600fps
155gr Sierra "Palma" Match
CCI BR Primers

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o312/hainespd/2600fps.jpg


43.4gr...reloder 15....2700fps
155gr Sierra "Palma" Match
CCI BR Primers

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o312/hainespd/2700fps-1.jpg


44.8gr.....reloder 15......2800fps
155gr Sierra "Palma" Match
CCI BR primers

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o312/hainespd/2800fps.jpg

McGlockster
October 17, 2007, 07:07 PM
Thanks for the info Dan12. Time for me to buy a real OAL Gauge - I can't find one locally though. Anyone have a good on-line source for the Stoney Creek gauge?

djl4570
October 21, 2007, 04:29 PM
I used to seat the rounds long but decided that I wanted my magazine fed rifles to feed the cartridges through the magazine. Someday I'll have a match grade .308 built with a minimum spec chamber, neck and a short throat I'll experiment with this again.

McGlockster
October 21, 2007, 04:38 PM
"I used to seat the rounds long but decided that I wanted my magazine fed rifles to feed the cartridges through the magazine. Someday I'll have a match grade .308 built with a minimum spec chamber, neck and a short throat I'll experiment with this again."

Amen to that notion!!!! I've been reading for the better part of the day "building" my fantasy rifle. Actually, it all fits together rather nicely - by the time my skills develop enough to become a proficient long distance precision shooter (2 years or so) I should have the $4,500 to buy one!!!! :o

Bad Flynch
October 21, 2007, 05:09 PM
ROA,

You did not specify the purpose of the load, I'll pass this one on to you.

As a former Remington dealer, back in the days when the custom shop at Ilion was producing really great 40-X match rifles, I would get these for people that really wanted to spend some money.

.308 rifles meant for hi-power competition usually came with three test groups that were shot at 100 yards. All of the bulls were on one target paper. Usually, they were test grouped at the factory with IMR-3031 and 168 grain Sierra International bullets (now MatchKings). The load was a really good one for 200 and 300 meter work and was around, IIRC 37.5 grains of 3031.

In its day, that load was considered a classic and the last pair of rifles that I got for two brothers-in-law both grouped around 0.35+" aggregate for all three groups. One rifle was around 0.3" and the other was around 0.4."

There is a "sweet-spot" for heavy-barreled .308s at about 2550 fps and many target guns and loads shoot their best right around there. I calculated the loads out in QuickLoad and 37.7 grains of 3031 estimates to be about 2550 fps and it calculates that you can go to 39 grains without exceeding 2650 fps, which is another point at which some find some luck.

Mild primers are in order here and commercial cases. Bullets were seated to 2.800."

brasskeeper
October 21, 2007, 09:33 PM
42 grains IMR 3031
150 gr rem cl psp
fed case
cci large rifle primer

jaholder1971
October 22, 2007, 10:47 PM
Any case
Federal GM210 primer
42.5 grains RL-15
180 grain Nosler BT
OAL 2.830"

This has been my deer and F-Class load for several years. By coincidence this combination is also in Nosler's online reloading data as their most accurate load combination as well.

dan12
August 23, 2008, 08:26 AM
CZ 550 Varmint 308W
Leupold Long Range Target VXIII 8.5-25x50

Any case
180 Sierra HPBT
Accurate #2520
43gr
2.874" OAL

Any case
168 HPBT Norma Diamond
Accurate #2520
44gr
2.893" OAL

Hunter0924
August 24, 2008, 02:26 AM
I like 39.5gr of IMR 4895 with the Sierra 168gr Matchking using Winchester cases and Federal Gold Match primers.

Hawkeye75
November 2, 2008, 10:51 AM
150gr Pet loads anybody??

I just bought some Hornady SST 150gr bullets and I am looking for a load for my Rem 700 SPS .308 26" heavey barrel.

evan price
November 3, 2008, 12:29 AM
42.5 grains H335, M80 projectile (147 grains or so). Works great and H335 meters very very well in an AutoDisk.

Hawkeye75
March 31, 2009, 05:46 PM
Any accurate 155gr Hornady SST loads with Varget?


Shooting a 26 inch heavy barrel Rem 700 SPS Varmint .308.

thanks

Ky Larry
March 31, 2009, 10:23 PM
ROA, I just got the same rifle and have installed a Nikon Monarch UCC
5.5-16.5X44 AO scope. I haven't tried any of the powders you listed. I've shot TAC, AA-2520, and AA-2460 with 165gr Hornady BTSP's and 150gr Sierra sp's. I've found best results with AA-2520 and 165gr Hornady bullets
but this rifle doesn't seem to be picky.I've shot about 50 3-shot groups and none have been over 1.2 inch. Some have been cloverleafs. I have some 125gr Speer TNT's loaded up but havent had a chance to shoot them yet. I think you'll be pleased with your rifle. (I've used MagTech 9 1/2 LR Std primers because they're all I have.)

NorCalRanches
April 1, 2009, 12:22 AM
44.5 grains of Varget pushing a 168 grain A-Max is my favorite .308 load. Substituting a 165 grain Hornady Interlock for hunting opens the group up slightly but not much if any over an inch. The A-Max bullet is well under an inch in five shots. The A-Max isn't really a hunting bullet but I've found it does a fine, fine job of dispatching coyotes from afar.

I use whatever commercial cases are handy, CCI 200 primers and COL is 2.815 for my rifle.

GSPKurt
April 1, 2009, 04:57 PM
45.0 gr. of Varget with a Nosler 150 gr. Ballistic Tip, CCI primer, FC case at 2.802" COAL

Redneck with a 40
April 1, 2009, 08:12 PM
I guess I'm the oddball on powder, but I'm having great luck with :

168 gr Matchking
42.3 grains H-4895
COL = 2.790
Remington Case, Remington Primer

These are shooting 1" at 100 yards very consistently, If I were a better shooter, they'd probably do a 1/2".

30Cal
April 1, 2009, 08:33 PM
125gr Speer TNT 2.75" OAL LC case, WLR or Rem primer (M1A Supermatch, 1:12)

42.5gr IMR4895, 43.5gr IMR4064, 45gr Varget. Really, I haven't found a combination that shot worse than great.

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