Does anyone know anyhing about the Sig Mosquito?


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phantomak47
February 24, 2005, 05:25 PM
I saw this gun on sigarms website, and I really really l liked it. Does anyone know if its out or when its coming out?

What about some guesses on price?

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SRYnidan
February 24, 2005, 06:24 PM
I saw the Mosquito at the shot show. The word was that the cost would be around $349 and should be out maybe this summer. This is if my memory is any good at all.

joegerardi
February 24, 2005, 11:08 PM
Here ya go...

http://www.praxagora.com/lunde/shot2005/mosquito-12.jpg

and the thread on SIGForum:

http://sigforum.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/430601935/m/234103081/p/1

..Joe

Pointman1776
February 24, 2005, 11:51 PM
Supposed to be around April '05 and I've heard prices as high as $400. We'll see.

phantomak47
February 25, 2005, 12:24 AM
is that a safety on the slide?

DWS1117
February 25, 2005, 12:29 AM
That may very well be my entry into the Sig world. I like. :D

Does anyone know if it will be available with adjustable sights?

XD40Assassin
February 25, 2005, 01:27 AM
Not to spoil the fun but is the picatinny rail really necessary?

BlkHawk73
February 25, 2005, 07:21 AM
Not to spoil the fun but is the picatinny rail really necessary?

I was thinking the exact same thing. I then came to my sences and remembered that any pistol made now just has to have one of thes rails to be "tactical" and that unless a gun is "tactical" it's worthless in these modern times. :rolleyes: :p :banghead:
I've heardfrom SIG that retail is $349 and possibly a mid summer release. I'd expect to see them at that pric initially until supply catches up with demand and the price gouging dwindles.
It may bell be my enry into SIGdom as well.

TheDutchman
February 25, 2005, 09:09 AM
The Slide is made of zinc :barf:

gvass
February 25, 2005, 09:14 AM
"The Slide is made of zinc "

Yep, and the frame is plastic.

This is a "toy-gun", designed to compete with similar low-end fun-guns, such as P22.

The safety on the slide is only for your beloved BATFE's import points.

Island Beretta
February 25, 2005, 09:59 AM
didn't the Sig p226/228 have pretty crappy slides (folded sheet metal that was pinned) before they came out with solid metal slides.. so if the slide is zinc now that ain't surprising!! :eek: It says $300+ but knowing Sig I expect to see this climb!!

joegerardi
February 25, 2005, 10:58 AM
The SIG folded-metal slides weren't crappy at all, and in fact the P228, P225 STILL have them. They only moved up to SS so that the slides would handle .40S&W and .357 SIG cartridges. I prefer the old slides to the new ones, which kinda of screw up the balance of the pistols.

Yes, the slide on the Mosquito is Zinc; Yes, the frame is polymer; yes it has a safety; yes it has a rail:
For the power a .22 has, Zinc is more than adequate. The P22 is also Zinc, and there has never been an issue with the slide's strength.

A polymer frame on the Mosquito keeps the weight down. Why would you care if a .22 is metal or polymer framed? If it's a range pistol, you needn't worry about the anodizing on an aluminum frame getting beat up.

The safety is included for multiple reasons: it adds to the import points, it's acknowledged that many beginners start with .22 so having a safety helps with instruction, and it offers a chance to dry-fire the pistol by blocking the firing pin, and hence not causing a burr on the chamber, which could lead to FTE's.

So what if it has a rail? The P22 has a threaded barrel for a can. Is that too tacticool for some? Again, if you're training with a .22, shouldn't the option be there to train with what might be used in real-life situations, like lights or lasers?

Geez, the mentality of some people. We get another new .22 semi, and all a lot of you can do is kvetch!

..Joe

outofbattery
February 25, 2005, 11:57 AM
I like it , and if my AG deems it safe for me to use , will probably buy one . I don't like how the price is seeming to creep up : I know people are willing to pay a premium because " it's a SIG ! * but if it climbs above $350 , I'll wait for them to hit the used market . I don't have a problem with the zinc and polymer construction of my P22 but I don't want to pay good money for the simple prestige of a pistol built to such a price point . I do like that it's larger than the P22 , but the P22 fits so perfectly into the mesh wallet pocket in my backpack :)

Red Tornado
February 25, 2005, 02:13 PM
It looks great, but if it's selling for that much, I'll opt for the Trailside for about the same price. However, somewhere down the road, one may follow me home.
RT

Mr. Mysterious
February 25, 2005, 03:50 PM
Looks nice, I wonder just how much of the marke Walther and the P22 has right now. Only reason that I can think that Sig has finally decided to make a .22 was that Walther was the first competitor to compete with Ruger.

phantomak47
February 25, 2005, 04:07 PM
Hopefully the sig will blow the p22 out of the water, everytime I went to the local range, people who had a p22 complained about it a lot. I only wish sig came out with this sooner.

DougCxx
February 25, 2005, 04:10 PM
...The P22 is also Zinc, and there has never been an issue with the slide's strength.....
-Ummmm,,, yes there were. Some early guns were replaced in less than a year, many with less than 10K shots through them. The typical reason was the small grip slide retaining hooks wearing out. Most everyone sees slide wear also. This is aggravated even more by the fact that the P22 often needs higher-veolcity ammo to function--ostensibly necessary to overcome the mechanical deficiencies of its poorly-engineered frame/slide fit. My prejudice against zinc is that they can precision-fit the slide at the factory, but it simply won't stay precise long. If you buy one now the parts stay on a bit better, but the major problem--the zinc slide and the small slide-retaining hooks in the grip--is still there, unremedied.

The P22 (and likely, SIG Mosquito) are converted gas-guns, replicas originally sold in Europe and only intended for blank-cap and tear-gas-cap use. These guns are built flimsy on purpose so that even if their integral [blocked] barrels are drilled out, they still won't last more than a few shots with 22LR ammo. There are gas-gun models of pretty much every major popular brand/model of pistol out there: HK USP, Browning HP, 1911, you name it. They're all available already. They look great--but they are all built for firing 2-ft/lb blanks, not real 120-ft/lb 22LR loads.

For $150, the P22 wouldn't be a bad deal. At $300, it's a joke.
Even China won't build guns this poorly.
The local gun shop can leave a spot in the display case for "my" Mosquito, right next to the P22 I won't buy.

Zundfolge
February 25, 2005, 06:06 PM
Not to spoil the fun but is the picatinny rail really necessary?
Actually on a .22 this makes more sense then on a subcompact 9mm CCW gun. The rails are good for mounting optics ... lots of folk like optics on their .22s

outofbattery
February 25, 2005, 06:53 PM
I've heard that the P22 is based on a gas gun many times and also that it's a complete fabrication but never seen any proof either way . Does anyone have any actual photos or proof one way or the other ?

DougCxx
February 26, 2005, 07:16 AM
I've heard that the P22 is based on a gas gun many times and also that it's a complete fabrication but never seen any proof either way . Does anyone have any actual photos or proof one way or the other ?
-There was a long thread about the P22 on RimFireCentral where a German fellow who had seen both guns up close said that except for the barrel and barrel attachment method, they were essentially the same. RFC changed their board software a while back and I can't find the thread now. The guy there posted links to a number of German-language sites that showed internal views of the gas-guns sold in Germany, and they did look identical to the P22. Someone fluent in German could try searching Google in that language; my English searches for variations of "gas gun buy" come up with nothing useful at all.
~

DesertRat
February 27, 2005, 02:31 PM
As a former Sig Fanatic, former P226 and current P220 (old style) owner, I would much rather have an American made Ruger .22 MkII consisting of better quality for much less $$$.

As for the "cheap" sig rolled and pinned sheet metal slides that were welded at both ends I will tell you that these were NOT junk - far from it. As for me, the Sigs lost much of their luster when the company decided to favor LE (of which I'm now a part) almost to the exclusion of the shooting public (back during the 90's), the hefty increase in their prices and the generally dumb moves they made with some of their products, some quality drop off, discontinuance of the P225, etc. :cuss:

I still like the P225, P220, P226, but I think I'll just buy another 1911 when the time comes. I pretty much wrote Sig off.

Black Snowman
February 27, 2005, 02:52 PM
If I was a SIG fan I think I'd want one as a training tool. It's intriguing. Since I'm a CZ guy I'd probably end up with the Cadet Kit 1st.

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