Will you buy a New FN P90 or P2000?


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The Grand Inquisitor
February 24, 2005, 04:35 PM
If you will buy one, tell why, and if not, also tell why not.


Personally I am putting the purchase of an AUG I have wanted for a long time on the shelf for a while to buy a P2000 when they become available.

I have been clamoring for quite a while now that companies have not been bringing any new rifle formats to the market for a long time now, and since FN is taking a big step towards BRINGING their NEW technology to the consumers I am more than happy to support that company with my dollars.

Secondly, I am a firm believer in the bullpup design philosophy and I would be more than happy to bring another bullpup into my collection to keep my 86S company.

Also, years ago I saw a few replica's of the French FAMAS rifle and ever since then I have been dying to get one, and I have never even seen one for sale. The sad fact is is that there are some semiauto FAMAS' in the country, but their owners have no desire to sell them because they know they'll never see one again. The FAMAS was lost to foolish gun control laws and import bans, and if these new FN rifles get caught up in that bull?????, I want to have one in my collection.

Lastly, I will get the P2000 first, because I like the design of it and because it is chambered in 5.56. Within a few years I would also like to get the P90, but because it is chambered in 5.7 I could not afford to shoot it much at all.

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beerslurpy
February 24, 2005, 05:30 PM
Yeah count me in, though I am not making any new purchases until Stewart is decided.

viking87
February 24, 2005, 05:33 PM
I'm gonna have to wait 'till I have the money (and 'till I get some other purchases out of the way first), but I'm really starting to like the looks of the F2000. Compact, widely available magazines, and some pretty nifty features. Yep, it's on the wish list.

Yowza
February 24, 2005, 05:35 PM
I wouldn't mind getting the 2000, but I don't really have any interest in the P90. If I could get a short barreled version, I might want one more.

Rick

Cawdor
February 24, 2005, 06:26 PM
I'm interested. My biggest reservation is the cost of the ammunition. $17 per box is the best I've seen. If the gun is around $1300 and ammunition can be purchased for about $10 per box, I'll probably buy one, though it is not expected to reach the market before early 2006.

WillBrayJr
February 24, 2005, 07:09 PM
The FN P90 doesn't hold any interest with me. ;)

DMK
February 24, 2005, 07:15 PM
I like the P2000 with it's 5.56 chambering and AR15 magazine compatability. It seems to me like a fun rifle that has some useful purpose.

I wouldn't buy a P90. While it certainly has it's place in service and duty applications, I can't see it being worth the price for the gun or the ammo with it's limited versatility.

beerslurpy
February 24, 2005, 08:12 PM
With current laws, the P90 is absolutely useless to civilians because it will be neither compact not full auto. The FN F2000 is going to be the same size, with a better cartridge and better magazine/ammo availability. I just hope it has a better gas system than the AR15.

Boats
February 24, 2005, 08:16 PM
They can keep their bullpups, I am much more interested in a semiauto SCAR. The arrival of the son of the FNC is something to be rejoiced.

PMDW
February 24, 2005, 08:42 PM
If I could get a short barreled version, I might want one more.

Saw + Form 1 = SBR.

:)

bamawrx
February 24, 2005, 08:47 PM
No SBR in Alabama, so no interest from me as the 16" is just plain silly.

admar2
February 24, 2005, 08:50 PM
Saw + Form 1 = SBR.

not to be nitpicky, but,

FORM 1 + Saw = SBR.

;)

Cortland
February 24, 2005, 09:14 PM
admar2, you raise a good point. We'll all know that a semi-auto rifle and a full-auto parts kit sitting next to each other constitute a machine gun in the eyes of the ATF. Then by extension, wouldn't a saw and a rifle similarly constitute an SBR?

PMDW
February 24, 2005, 09:24 PM
No SBR in Alabama, so no interest from me as the 16" is just plain silly.

Move.

not to be nitpicky, but,

FORM 1 + Saw = SBR.

Wha? That's what I said.

Cortland
February 24, 2005, 09:28 PM
Wha? That's what I said.
Form 1 + Saw ... in the eyes of the ATF, those operations are NOT commutative (that means the order is important) ;)

tc300mag1
February 24, 2005, 09:36 PM
Maybe, maybe not, but not all that interested

PMDW
February 24, 2005, 09:39 PM
Form 1 + Saw ... in the eyes of the ATF, those operations are NOT commutative (that means the order is important)

2 + 1, 1 + 2, you get the same answer.

I never said you'd cut before you got approved, just that the two together equaled an SBR. You added the part about getting approved first, it was implied in my post.

Is there something you want to get off your chest? :)

beerslurpy
February 24, 2005, 09:43 PM
admar2, you raise a good point. We'll all know that a semi-auto rifle and a full-auto parts kit sitting next to each other constitute a machine gun in the eyes of the ATF. Then by extension, wouldn't a saw and a rifle similarly constitute an SBR?

No, thanks to Thompson Center Arms Company vs United States (1991).

The appeals court ruled thusly:

The question in this case is who "makes" a NFA "firearm" and therefore is liable for the tax Thompson, when it separately manufactures the Contender pistol and carbine conversion kit, or the person possessing both a pistol and kit, when and if he actually assembles a 10 inch rifle? In our view, the National Firearms Act answers, "the latter."

Hkmp5sd
February 24, 2005, 09:51 PM
P90 w/ SBR stamp.

rbernie
February 24, 2005, 10:26 PM
since FN is taking a big step towards BRINGING their NEW technology to the consumers I am more than happy to support that company with my dollars. That's admirable, but right now I'm in a place where I'm not much interested in new technology AT ALL.

I'd much rather spend my coin learning how to use the technology I've got rather than spending it to buy newer technology that I likely still won't be able to effectively use.

SapperLeader
February 25, 2005, 08:51 AM
It doesn’t do much for me, plus I don’t want to take the time to learn the new technology. I look forward to pictures and range reports though, from members that do buy one. Im just doing my part to live vicariously through others :evil:

WhoKnowsWho
February 25, 2005, 09:12 AM
If I wanted to buy everything I wanted, I probably would be out of organs by now to sell on the black market... :uhoh:

Glock Glockler
February 25, 2005, 09:38 AM
How does a bull-pup design with forward eject make a gun so complicated that one cannot use it? What about excellent ergonomics? The learning curves on that are impossible :rolleyes:

DougCxx
February 25, 2005, 05:06 PM
The 2000 scares me--I have a prejudice against pullpup centerfires.
-In the event that the breech splits, I want it as far away from my head as possible.
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The P90 is cool in a techno way, but unless they cut the price by about 50% and chamber it in 17HMR, I won't be buying.

In the long run I think the ammo would be the absolute killer cost involved in owning such a gun. As far as I've heard, no major military organizations want anything to do on a major scale with either the FN or the HK teeny-weeny-bullet guns.
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Daemon688
February 25, 2005, 11:04 PM
The P90 has appeal to me but the ammo is expensive. The 2000 looks like a better choice due to ammo and magazine compatability. About 3 weeks ago I was about ready to buy a M4gery but instead I now have $1000 stashed away towards that F2000. About the only thing that will change my mind right now is if a new AWB is likely to be passed soon.

Cortland
February 25, 2005, 11:30 PM
About the only thing that will change my mind right now is if a new AWB is likely to be passed soon.
Well FN obviously doesn't see that as a likelihood ;)

artherd
February 26, 2005, 12:39 AM
I'd be all over the P90 in a heartbeat.

Can you say "Car/Truck gun?!" I'd put it on my CCW permit.

CA needs to drop the ban against thumbhole stocks first, and the ban against SBRs second.

norman74
February 26, 2005, 08:46 PM
I am not interested in either one. However I see guns as tools, and don't see either one of these as doing anything that guns currently in my safe don't do as well or better.

Black Snowman
February 26, 2005, 09:48 PM
Hmm, where is "If I win the lottery." I'd love a P90, but only if I go through the trouble of getting an SBR version, and only if I can get the full capacity magazines for it. Otherwise, I'll buy several of the other guns on my wish list first.

NH AR Shooter
February 27, 2005, 03:35 PM
I would get a P90 and make it a SBR, I admit StarGate SG1 has made me want one, because I can see no other reason for it.

I like the FN2000, for its futuristic looks, and it is said to be a very good shooter.

:)

JShirley
February 27, 2005, 06:45 PM
.308 SCAR more interesting to me.

John

BlkHawk73
February 27, 2005, 09:17 PM
The P90 for some reason actually kinda appeals to me. Odd, since I'm not really taking second looks at that type of firearm. :scrutiny: Hadn't considered the ammo price/availability, but was kinda hoping maybe it would become more commercially produced.

PrudentGT
February 27, 2005, 11:37 PM
Yeah, in the unlikely even that the CA AWB is repealed, I am all over the FN SCAR. I suspect that's money I never have to part with, though. :(

Feanaro
February 28, 2005, 09:15 AM
I would definately buy a P2000 if I had the money lying around. Why? I don't need a bloody reason! I just want it. :D

ddc
March 2, 2005, 04:32 AM
I'd think about it. But the reality is that there are a number of other guns I'd probably spend the money on.

That doesn't mean I have any reservations about it; only that the FN P90/P2000 fever hasn't hit this location yet.

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