H110 in 45 colt with 250 xtp's


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kumma
February 26, 2005, 01:42 AM
I have checked a few manuals but none list this load except for the lee which puts it at 25.7g to start. Hornady does not list it for there 250g xtp's is this to light of a bullet to use H110. Id like to double check the data but who else lists it?

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The Bushmaster
February 26, 2005, 01:58 AM
None of my three manuals have it listed either. Lyman #48, Hogdon Basic reloader and Metallic Cartridge Reloading. More then likely someone has a pet loading for that H110 250 gr XTP. Unless they can back it up with a publication be careful...

Mal H
February 26, 2005, 12:08 PM
Whoa, kumma, hold the phone! You say Lee lists a starting load of 25.7 grains of H110? Take that book and burn it. That is way too heavy a starting load of H110 in a 45 Colt to be listed in a publication. I'm not saying it will blow up your gun, depends on the gun, but it is out of line for general 45 Colt loads.

Speer recommends a min-max of 18.5 - 20.0 grains for a 260 gr JHP, but only in heavy duty guns like a Ruger or T/C Contender.

Sierra lists 25.0 grains as a max load for a 240 gr bullet, so the load would even be a little less than 25 gr for a 250 gr bullet.

The above loads are not to be construed as suggestions for loading, only illustrations of why the Lee manual is apparently off base.

What gun will you be shooting the rounds out of?

The Bushmaster
February 26, 2005, 01:39 PM
I thought that load was a little high. I don't believe in book burning, but I could be persuaded to burn that one. I went back and checked again and none of my manuals list H110 for any .45 colt loading. I agree with Mal H and Again caution you on using H110 in that .45...

Black Snowman
February 26, 2005, 01:44 PM
I have noticed the Lee data to be all over the board. Their "Ruger/Contender only" loads I haven't paid a lot of attention to even though I have a 454 I can shoot them out of. Lee also doesn't list brass, primer, or test gun so who knows what other factors there are in their data. I use it as a general guideline but don't trust it implicitly.

If you're loading for a strong gun, like a 454, Ruger, or Contender, the heavier loads may be safe but I'd check the Hodgdon data. The reason the Hornady manual doesn't list it is because the 250 gr XTP is for slow, light loads, like standard 45 colt. The 240 XTP Mag is thicker skinned for high velocity loads like 454 and hot-rodded 45 colt.

I've shot the 250 XTPs from my 454, in 454 brass, with a full load of AA #9 and had excellent accuracy. They'd probably disintigrate on impact with an animal however as they were going around 1700 FPS. A little faster than their designed speed of 750-1000 FPS at impact.

Hope that helps. Just out of curiosity, what gun will you be shooting these out of? You might want to put the brakes on H-110 entirely. It can be a tricky powder.

Kamicosmos
February 26, 2005, 06:33 PM
I have a box of the 250 grain XTPs waiting to be loaded up with some H110 for my Ruger Vaquero.

But...I haven't loaded them up yet, cause I really don't think I'll enjoy a hard kicking vaquero!

But 27.5 is way too high though. Hodgdon's site in fact doesn't list a load with H110 for that bullet, even in the heavy guns. Only Lil Gun. Interesting...

kumma
February 27, 2005, 12:27 AM
It will be shot out of a Ruger Blackhawk Hunter. I have been reloading 45 colt plinking rounds with titegroup. Looking for a Whitetail deer load with a little more kick, I do have some 300g XTP's but I picked up a box of 250's that I wanted to test out.

I have some H110 from a .357 load a while back. Figured the Lee book was a bit stout so I was looking for Comparable data.

yes 25.7 is listed as a starting load in the lee book with a max of 26.5.
Craig

Clark
February 28, 2005, 12:28 AM
CAUTION: The following post includes loading data beyond currently published maximums for this cartridge. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Neither the writer, The High Road, nor the staff of THR assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information.

I have been shooting 24 gr of H110 with 250 gr XTPs in my Uberti Cattleman and my Win 94.

I shot:
20 gr wimpy
21 gr bullet jammed in forcing cone
22 gr ok
23 gr ok
24 gr ok

If I were you I would use a very heavy crimp to assure ingition, and start at 22 gr.

Myself, I got a LImbsaver recoil pad for the Win 94, and I want to go up a grain, and the Uberti 1873 type six gun kicks too hard, and I want to go down a grain.

I am going to get some Nickel brass, so I can keep the hot loads separate from the wimpy loads.

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