Sw 1911
Fed168
March 9, 2003, 03:09 PM
Got a hold an SW 1911 yesterday. I like it! It seems to well put together and has a good balance to it. Sights are good, but could be a little bigger, still easy to get a good pic with. Trigger needs some breaking in, and the beavertail is under more tension, I think another spring for the firing pin safety, but still not a problem to hold in.
Did not get to shoot it, though, and it is priced about the same as other 1911s on the market. Now if they could get rid of the roll marks...
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10-Ring
March 9, 2003, 07:20 PM
As far as I know, they still remain to be seen in CA :( They've been getting some pretty good press & word of mouth lately.
Lone_Gunman
March 9, 2003, 07:38 PM
If you want one you better get one soon.
I dont think they will be in the S&W catalog for long.
Stainless Steel
March 9, 2003, 10:13 PM
10-Ring:
I saw one the other day at:
Gold Coast Trading
15891 Goldenwest St
Huntington Beach,
CA. Phone: (714)379-6818
However, typical of California, they are
charging the max of $800.00
Lanyard.
http://www.goldcoastguns.com
http://home.mindspring.com/~colt45acp/nra1.gif
Stainless Steel
March 9, 2003, 10:22 PM
Lone_Gunman:
Why do you say that? The gun is getting
glowing reports.
Lanyard.
http://home.mindspring.com/~colt45acp/nra1.gif
Ian11
March 9, 2003, 11:41 PM
I haven't shot one myself let alone seen one (I live in CA too), but they seem to be better put together (to me) than SA "Loaded" or Kimber. If S&W comes out with a blued/black steel model and with different roll marks I'd be all over that. Unless....Colt sends more 1911's to CA.:p
I think the 1911 for S&W is here to stay. I heard they're planning to come out with Commander sized and Officer sized 1911's also. They'd be stupid to discontinue it.
And competition and variety can only be a good thing for 1911 fans.
ruger357
March 10, 2003, 07:09 AM
They are nice, dealer is charging $789.00 in my neck of the woods.
Lone_Gunman
March 10, 2003, 07:24 AM
The market is already saturated with 1911s. If they had done this before Kimber and Springfield Armory started churning 1911s out by the thousands, I would be more confident that they will stay around.
Fed168
March 10, 2003, 07:38 AM
I would like to see a Commander size gun come out. The construction is nice.
Zenon
March 10, 2003, 08:37 PM
I like mine! I hope it stays and we get more models. Only 100 rounds through my SW1911 so far; it is much better well finished that my SA loaded. Better stock trigger too. But just like different breeds of canine, each has it's own lineage and personality, I like them both.
Rockrivr1
March 11, 2003, 08:01 AM
They haven't cleared the Mass AG office yet to be put on the "List", but I did rent it at the S&W factory range. It felt good in my hand and it balanced nice.
The state of Mass has virtually eliminated new 1911s for sale because of thier strict guidelines and approval process. Seeing S&W's factory is in state, they are making a run to be one of the only sellers of 1911 in Mass. Just about every local gunshop in the area has started a purchase list once they become approved. Lets just say that S&W will sell many of these just in Mass, as one gun shop has almost 100 people on a list. It will take a while for S&W to supply the demand here.
It's not first on my list of firearm purchases, but it definately has made the top 5.
ruger357
March 11, 2003, 08:12 AM
Just found another gunshop selling it for $739.00.
M1911
March 11, 2003, 10:45 AM
They haven't cleared the Mass AG office yet to be put on the "List", but I did rent it at the S&W factory range. Rockrivr1: Just to be clear, nothing ever clears the AG's office and the AG's office has nothing to do with the Roster. The Roster is issued by the Executive Office of Public Safety (EOPS). A gun that is on the Roster meets the legal requirements in Chapter 140. However, just because a gun is on the Roster does not mean that it also meets the Attorney General's Consumer Protection regulations.
The AG's regs are different than Chapter 140 in several ways, most noticeably that the AG's regs require that semi-autos have either a chamber loaded indicator or magazine safety disconnect.
The AG's office will not say whether or not a gun meets its limitations. It just tells manufacturers that if the AG decides their gun does not meet the regs, then the AG will see them in court.
The SW1911 does meet the AG's regulations because it does have a chamber loaded indicator. What S&W is waiting on is EOPS, not the AG.
Rockrivr1
March 11, 2003, 12:32 PM
To be honest, I'm not 100% up to date on the whole "approval" process, except to say that there are a whole bunch of things that I can't have because "They are not on the list".
Thanks for the clarification M1911.
El Tejon
March 11, 2003, 12:42 PM
Fed, thanks for the heads up. Will have to check it out.:cool:
M1911
March 11, 2003, 02:53 PM
Rockrivr1:
My point is, there are things that are "on the list" (aka, the Roster) that you still can't have, because they don't meet the AG's regulations.
You can find the Roster (http://www.state.ma.us/eops/gun_roster2002.htm) on EOPS web site. This implements the restrictions in the law, which you can find in Mass General Law Chapter 140 Section 123 (http://www.state.ma.us/legis/laws/mgl/140-123.htm) -- you'll need to scroll down to paragraph 18.
The Attorney General's Handgun Regulations (http://www.ago.state.ma.us/con_pro/guns.asp) can also be found online.
mattk
March 12, 2003, 09:02 AM
Glad I dont live in Mass. Yikes that place is is turning into a den a of dirty pinko commies.
M1911
March 12, 2003, 09:22 AM
mattk: You're quite wrong. It's not turning into a den of dirty pinko commies. It turned into a den of dirty pinko commies some time ago...
Tony Z
March 12, 2003, 10:27 AM
As to the new 1911's that have been added to the whole group of out of the box custom 1911's, I'll take the Dan Wesson line over the new Smith or even SA and Many of the Kimber products. Also no huge rollmarks on the wessons.
Tony
http://www.1911forum.com/images/reviews/dw11.jpg
Yo
March 12, 2003, 03:03 PM
The SW1911 was approved for sale in CA on 2/3/03 so we should be seeing more soon. Apparently prices are drifting below $700 in other states.
Lone Gunman wrote: "The market is already saturated with 1911s. If they had done this before Kimber and Springfield Armory started churning 1911s out by the thousands, I would be more confident that they will stay around."
I agree that the market is saturated. But since Kimber started making their own frames (instead of sourcing them from S&W) about 18 months ago, there have been very serious quality control problems. Buy a Kimber and you get one cr*ppy mag. Buy a SW and you get two stainless Wilsons. Plus a forged sear and you don't have to worry about your sights falling off, or the barrel lugs chipping, or the ambi safeties bending-- all of which happened to my Kimber Gold Match. SW also gives you a Briley bushing and Wolff springs. Kimber gives you a junk bushing and funky springs.
Basically Kimber's quality control problems and poor MIM parts invited this entry by SW. If SW can fix the styling a little on its product I think it will eventually dominate the market. I just wish they made a model with no forward serrations and just the S&W circle logo on the sides, stainless frame, blued or parkerized slide.
M1911
March 12, 2003, 04:30 PM
I just wish they made a model with no forward serrations and just the S&W circle logo on the sides, stainless frame, blued or parkerized slide.I'm with you on the no forward serrations and smaller rollmark. Two-tone guns? Ick. I don't like them at all. Make mine all stainless or all black.
warrior23
March 12, 2003, 10:06 PM
If you like the S&W check the Dan Wesson 1911 Patriot it's in the same price range but all tricked out.Great buy for the $.
Zenon
March 12, 2003, 10:55 PM
Just put another hundred rounds through my SW1911 and I like it even more than before. My first .45 and I'm getting spoiled.
Okay, I'll say it... I'm getting a lot of bang for the buck (pun intended). :cool:
Yo
March 12, 2003, 10:58 PM
If you like the S&W check the Dan Wesson 1911 Patriot it's in the same price range but all tricked out.Great buy for the $.
Warrior-- Yes, I've been following the Patriot with considerable interest. The proofing videos on the DW site are impressive.
Sadly, I am not able to buy Dan Wesson products in California because of the stupid mandatory testing schemes. :cuss: :mad: :fire: :banghead:
It is too costly for small companies to submit all their pistols for certification, although I would think DW could pick one model, say the stainless patriot for certification.
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