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50 Shooter
March 1, 2005, 05:01 PM
This is just wrong! What a crock of $h*t :banghead:

www.50caliberterror.com

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Zundfolge
March 1, 2005, 05:06 PM
LOL ... I read through their page and I'm still not sure if they are for real or a parody of an anti-gun site ... I fear they are for real.

Deavis
March 1, 2005, 05:12 PM
I like how they mention that 25 rifles were sold to Osama in the 1980's. IIRC didn't the U.S. gov't prompt that sale to help rebels in Afghanistan?

Nazirite
March 1, 2005, 05:18 PM
I’ve been saving money for a house but if these bozos in Washington try to outlaw these guns, I might just go buy one.

shermacman
March 1, 2005, 05:20 PM
Imagine that! In WW II it would take dozens of .50 rounds to shoot down a prop plane traveling at a fraction of the speed of a commercial jet! Now any whack job can buy a .50 BMG and drop a jet with one shot:scrutiny:

homeka45
March 1, 2005, 06:01 PM
The sky is falling, the sky is falling. Useful idiots.

mbs357
March 1, 2005, 07:41 PM
LMAO @ the 60 Minutes editting job.
"BLAM BLAM *BURNING BUILDING*"

2nd Amendment
March 1, 2005, 08:52 PM
Well, a Google of "Freedom States Alliance" turns up exactly zip. Zilch. Nada.

Likewise, their slogan "Changing the way America thinks about guns" gets nothing.

I almost think it's a spoof. I also especially like the intro where the jet conveniently hovers at liftoff, while the "scope" tracks in on it. Wish birds would do that...

Standing Wolf
March 1, 2005, 09:12 PM
... .50 Caliber ammunition is the largest round available on the civilian market...

All right, wildcatters! Get to work!

Stickjockey
March 2, 2005, 12:52 AM
... .50 Caliber ammunition is the largest round available on the civilian market...

Um...What about my Lyman GPR? In .54-caliber? Or my buddy's Springfield 1863 in .58??? :what:

Oh. The horror. :rolleyes:

Edit to add:

Isn't .600 Nitro Express still available?

geekWithA.45
March 2, 2005, 01:02 AM
Googling Freedom States Alliances pulls up this:

http://www.jointogether.org/gv/news/alerts/reader/0,2061,563413,00.html


It looks like it's a loose coalition of the old "Ceasefire" gang, in the middle of which is Bryan Miller, of NJ/PA infamy.

One of my informants reports that

FWIW, the site is registered to Mark Karlin & Associates, a Chicago PR firm. Karlin is or was the chairman of the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence, and full-on neo-Marxist psychopath as well. (At least that's how *I'd* categorize him.) He's listed as the point of contact on lots of press releases for anti-gun organizations. He also edits buzzflash.com, which appears to be the Democratic Underground crowd's answer to Drudge.

My take on it is that enough committed die hard gun bigots are still hanging tough through this lean time, and are consolidating forces.

While they may not have enough to scrape up TV ads (and yes, Ceasefire did have TV ads) they're getting some funding from somewhere....

geekWithA.45
March 2, 2005, 01:05 AM
Actually, 50calterror is the headline @ buzzflash right now

http://www.buzzflash.com/


Bush Administration Allows Gun Industry to Market .50 Caliber "Shoot Down" Sniper Rifles to Terrorists on the Internet that Can Shoot Down Planes Landing and Taking Off. Easier to Buy Than a Handgun! Join the Movement to Stop the Threat to YOUR Life.

mbs357
March 2, 2005, 01:12 AM
I read in another thread about muzzle loaders in the past going up to +.800s...are those still available, if ever??

artherd
March 2, 2005, 01:17 AM
I like how they mention that 25 rifles were sold to Osama in the 1980's. IIRC didn't the U.S. gov't prompt that sale to help rebels in Afghanistan?

Actually, the CIA bought the rifles! and then gave them to Bin Laden. The idea at the time was to stop the Russians at all costs, we better arm these guys. Nobody looked too closely at who 'these guys' were at the time.

Bubbles
March 2, 2005, 08:16 AM
A WHOIS search on 50caliberterror.com yields some interesting info, especially Googling the name of the site owner (long-time anti & Dem activist).

http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/whois/index.jhtml

shermacman
March 2, 2005, 08:22 AM
DemocRATs behind this! I am shocked, shocked!

Not for nothing, but a regular old 12 gauge deer slug is "larger" than the .50 BMG bullet. They can't even get that part right.

molonlabe
March 2, 2005, 08:35 AM
Joyce Foundation
70 W. Madison St., Suite 2750
Chicago, IL 60602
(312) 782-2464
www.joycefdn.org

• Business and Professional People for the Public Interest, Chicago, $100,000 to support advocacy for policies that strengthen small Chicago schools.
• Recruiting New Teachers, Belmont, Mass., $227,815 for recruitment of minority teachers in Illinois.
• SRI International, Menlo Park, Calif., $240,000 to assist Milwaukee Public Schools in designing a mentoring and coaching network.
• Boston University School of Public Health, Boston, $200,000 to support Join Together Gun Violence Prevention Project.
• Indiana University, Indianapolis, $250,000 to support the Indiana Partnership to Prevent Firearm Violence.
• Iowans for the Prevention of Gun Violence, Cedar Rapids, $250,000 to support efforts to promote policies to prevent gun-related death and injury.
• Mark Karlin & Associates, Chicago, $192,000 for publication of research results on gun violence.• Violence Policy Center, Washington, $800,000 to support public-health oriented gun violence prevention policies.


Nope it's real

halvey
March 2, 2005, 08:50 AM
Doesn't this just make you want one even more?

Seriously.

2nd Amendment
March 2, 2005, 09:53 AM
In playing with Google again I still didn't find the jointogether link. Good sleuthing. I finally did find one mention of FSA on the VPC site, but even they had no links...

geekWithA.45
March 2, 2005, 10:00 AM
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=128119

They also bankroll Saul Cornell's bogus "2nd Amendment research center"

I can see that these folks are a problem.

TarpleyG
March 2, 2005, 11:55 AM
Having a little fun at their expense...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v106/tarpleyg/50cal.jpg

Greg

Justin
March 2, 2005, 01:03 PM
While they may not have enough to scrape up TV ads (and yes, Ceasefire did have TV ads) they're getting some funding from somewhere.... My first gut feeling was that if anyone would bankroll something like this, it'd probably be the Joyce Foundation.

Then I scrolled on down the thread and saw molonlabe's post:

• Mark Karlin & Associates, Chicago, $192,000 for publication of research results on gun violence.• Violence Policy Center, Washington, $800,000 to support public-health oriented gun violence prevention policies.

With psychic talent like that, I could give Sylvia Brown a run for her money!

In all seriousness, over the years I've come to the conclusion that The Joyce Foundation is the single biggest financial contributor to the gun control movement. Generally if some "new" gun control group shows up, you can bet that The Joyce Foundation is involved somehow. The thing that makes it so peculiar is that the more you dig, the more inter-related all of these organizations are. The gun control movement is amazingly incestuous.

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