Major feeding problems with new Ruger Mark II Target Competition
rock jock
March 10, 2003, 11:29 AM
I am getting a failure to feed malfunction every magazine. The round will not fully go into battery. Plus, I notice a pretty good buildup of shavings in the chamber. Is this something that will work itself out with more shooting, or should I pack it up and send it to Ruger? I have about 150 rounds through the gun.
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10-Ring
March 10, 2003, 11:32 AM
Is this w/ several mags? diff't types of ammo? I've noticed my Comp really doesn't like those lead 22's.
caz223
March 10, 2003, 11:45 AM
Try cleaning it, lubing it, and shooting it some more.
They are really a pita to clean, but you gotta get used to it sometime...
yzguy
March 10, 2003, 12:02 PM
clean out the chamber and breach face area real good... also clean out the exctractor area.
http://www.1bad69.com/ruger/index.htm
dan_s
March 10, 2003, 12:07 PM
I have a Ruger Mark 1 and I find that this may occur with some types of ammo. Try a couple of brands and see if that clears it up for you..
rock jock
March 10, 2003, 12:43 PM
Sorry, I should have mentioned that this problem was with several different types of ammo and both factory-supplied mags. Also, I had thoroughly cleaned it the day before this happened.
hksw
March 10, 2003, 01:36 PM
What types of ammo did you try? It sounds as if the bullets are being shaved by a tight chamber.
I'm not familiar with the chamber dimenisions of the Competition. I do, however, have a Mk II Target. The only time I've had a serious problem with feeding through the Mk II was when I used Remington ammo that use to be sold in milk carton-type boxes. The bullets of the cartridges were just too big to fit through the chamber. I have had problems chambering Rem Thunderbolt through my target rifles due to the same problem, tight chamber/big bullet (lets not start with the jokes).
If you haven't tried it, IMO, I would sample some more dimensionally consistant, but also expensive, target ammo to see if they feed right.
rock jock
March 10, 2003, 02:20 PM
hk,
This was at a match. The ammo I used was Federal Gold Match and Winchester Match ammo, and CCI Green Tag. All of them are the high dollar stuff.
BevrFevr
March 10, 2003, 02:44 PM
I have a mk2 target.
make sure the claw is functioning properly. I've noticed that these rugers tend to like the more potent loads for function. I was having probs with remington subsonic but they went away with cci mini mags.
Also make sure you put it back together perfect and lube it correctly. It's an odd weapon to take down and even odder to put back together.
Will it feed when you cycle rounds by hand? You may just want to break it in with a couple boxes of mini mags. Then work your way up to the good stuff.
Then send it back.
-bevr
rock jock
March 10, 2003, 03:04 PM
Excellent idea, Bevr.
hksw
March 10, 2003, 05:46 PM
Wow, that's a new one on me (using match grade and getting failures). Like BevrFevr said, maybe it just needs to loosen up a bit.
mparris71
March 10, 2003, 07:09 PM
First I would shoot it a little more. Try Win super X with the copper looking bullets they are alot cheaper and feed just as well as the match stuff for breaking it in. I had a .22/45 that done the same stuff yours is doing. never got better, After 1000 rounds I called Ruger. They sent a new bolt. Compareing the two. I noticed that the face of the bolt was machined wrong on one side of the radius on the extractor side. The new bolt sovled all of my problems, has not jammed since
.45Ruger
March 10, 2003, 09:03 PM
Call Ruger, they will make things right.
larryw
March 10, 2003, 09:44 PM
Another vote for shoot a brick or two of high powered stuff to break it in before you send it off. Mine wouldn't cycle the target ammo when new, but shot the PowerPoints just fine. Two bricks of that ammo solved problem. Hundreds (thousands?) of bricks later, still no problems.
Also, you want this (http://www.ontargetguns.com/veex.html). Trust me. ;)
agony
March 10, 2003, 10:01 PM
Another vote to shoot a few bricks of ammo to break it in.
My MkII Comp model had exactly the same probs that you mentioned. After 500 rounds of cheap plinkin' ammo, it runs like a champ.
ether
March 10, 2003, 10:09 PM
Mine is about 10 years old, but it did exactly the same thing the first time I took it to the range. Of course, I made the mistake of NOT cleaning it before I took it to the range. I think the preservative in the bore contributed to the horrible fouling. When I got it home to clean it, I tried running a brush through, but it stuck. I had to use a mallet to hammer the rod the rest of the way through the bore. When the brush came out the other end, it had a SOLID TUBE of lead covering it. It was the strangest thing I'd ever seen.
It also didn't feed worth a hoot the first time I shot it. I sent the mags back to Ruger, and they promptly replaced them, but all the pistol really needed was a good FIRST cleaning and about 500 rounds break-in.
Now I have a couple of thousand rounds through it, and it hasn't jammed since the second range session. It's also incredibly accurate and doesn't foul nearly as bad.
rock jock
March 10, 2003, 10:38 PM
Wow, great advice! This weekend I will run a couple bricks of cheap copper-coated high-velocity ammo through it.
SouthpawShootr
March 10, 2003, 10:59 PM
My Mark I absolutely, positively will not feed CCI Green Tag. Most of the high velocity stuff, it loves, as well as standard velocity copper jacketed. The only time I've had problems is with Green tag and lead bullets.
ether
March 11, 2003, 12:34 AM
I think the more you shoot it and wear in the recoil spring, the more it will like the weaker bargain ammo. As of now, mine loves the cheapie 500 round bricks of Remington lead ammo. It didn't at first.......
Ledbetter
March 11, 2003, 02:42 PM
High-velocity break in worked for me too. The aftermarket extractors are significantly better than the factory part.
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http://www.ontargetguns.com/otts.html
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