[Pendragon]

The FL state web site lists the restriction on CCW. The one I would hit most often is the restriction on going to a place that serves alchohol.

It does not seem to be like some states where it is only restricted if they meet the 51% of sales test.

Yet - there was an asterisk next to this restriction meaning there is more to is, but I could not find anything.

Are there any "loopholes" to this? My wife and I do not drink, but we would like to eat at a restaurant once in a while - do you have to leave the roscoe in the car?

Also - we are (yes, WE) considering getting our FL CCW now even though it will probably be August before me move - would we have to get the CCW again after we become residents?

Also - it seems that carrying in church is legal - did I miss anything?

As for the restrictions on schools - is it ok to drop your kid off or is the restriction only about going in the building?

Finally - do most businesses in FL restrict CCW at work with company policy? In CA, most companies make it policy that you cannot have any kind of weapon on premises, etc.

Thanks and are there any Jacksonville residents that want to go shooting with a California Evacuee this fall? :D

[GSB]

You are allowed to carry in places that serve alcohol as long as you don't sit in the bar area. If you sit in the dining area, you are golden. Don't ask me the rationale. Do the idiots who impose these restrictions ever exercise any actual logic?

Schools: my understanding is nowhere, no way, no how. Not on the property. No exemptions. (IIRC, you can't even have one within 1000 feet of a school unless you live within the gun-free zone or are on a public thoroughfare -- I need to look that one up again to be sure).

Church: There is no restriction that I know of.

Businesses: It's up to the business, but you can pretty well bet that any of the larger companies will have a blanket ban on workplace carry.

As for Jax residents, I am a Jax resident. Contact me on the private replies, we'll get together.

[TarpleyG]

Not true about the schools. I do believe in TX that you can have a gun in a school parking lot. Probably the same in many other areas. Anyone have any more to add?

GT

[Dave P]

From: http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0790/titl0790.htm


790.115 Possessing or discharging weapons or firearms at a school-sponsored event or on school property prohibited; penalties; exceptions.--

(1) A person who exhibits any sword, sword cane, firearm, electric weapon or device, destructive device, ..., commits a felony of the third degree, .... This subsection does not apply to the exhibition of a firearm or weapon on private real property within 1,000 feet of a school by the owner of such property ...

(2)(a) A person shall not possess any firearm, ...however, a person may carry a firearm:

1. In a case to a firearms program, class or function ...

2. In a case to a vocational school having a firearms training range; or

3. In a vehicle pursuant to s. 790.25(5); except that school districts may adopt written and published policies that waive the exception in this subparagraph for purposes of student and campus parking privileges.

I read that last section to say that I can drop my kids off at school, no matter what is in my truck. I don't know what my local school dist says, and I don't care too much either.

[Hkmp5sd]

Alcohol: You may carry your gun into a place that serves alcohol as long as you are not in the area in which the primary product sold is alcohol. Basically, no bars or the bar area in a restaurant.

You may have your gun on school property as long as it is inside your vehicle. A school district *may* enact a ban preventing students from having a firearm in their vehicle while parked on school property.

[GSB]

Dave, thanks for the clarification. My CCW instructor, in other words, was wrong. He obviously did not know that one law was modified by another law that in turn could be modified by a subsection of a law. :rolleyes:

[PageField]

Pendragon, it is my belief that if you have the permit, it only needs a change of address within 30 days of moving in state.

I've been told it is the same card.

[publius]

My FL CWP instructor was an ill-informed, blustering ***, but he did give one very good piece of advice:

Buy a book called Florida Firearms Law, Use, & Ownership by Jon H. Gutmacher. To keep you current, Jon will even send you updates to the book if you send him a SASE. Speaking of which, I need to do that.

I've researched the thread topic carefully, and the other responses are correct: establishments which serve alcohol are fine, just not the bar area.

According to the book, you may not carry:

1. In a cop station.

2. A jail.

3. A courthouse.

4. Any boondoggling government meeting involving the governing body of a school board, city commission, county commission, or special district. Oops.

5. Any meeting of the Legislature or its committees.

6. Any polling place. Oops. I'll try not to do it again. Maybe.

7. At any elementary school, secondary school, college, or university facility. He then goes on for about a page regarding the school thing. I'm not typing it out here. Buy the book.

8. School, college, or pro sports event (except ones related to firearms).

9. Parts of airports.

10. Any place subject to federal prohibtion of firearms.

11. In any portion of a restaurant, bar, nightclub, or other establishment licensed to serve alcohol for consumption on the premises (not a liquor store which only sells the packaged stuff vs serving it) in the portion of the premises that is primarily devoted to that purpose (that's government for at the bar, though I think I saw an exception somewhere in there if the bar stools are actually more comfortable than the table seats, which are within arm's reach of the bar. At least I hope I did).

12. Whore houses, crack houses, and illegal gambling establishments. I swear I didn't make that up.

[Pendragon]

My wife would shoot me if I went to a crack house! :D