Pistol Cabinet in Garage


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TarpleyG
March 10, 2003, 08:39 PM
I have a dilema. The most secure place to mount my pistol cabinet is to the concrete block wall in my garage. I actually like the idea of having it there but I am concerned about moisture. Don't get me wrong. I still have one pistol and a shotgun in the bedroom so that's not a problem.

I have a Stack-On cabinet with about 3-cubic feet of space. Will something like this http://www.milbinoc.com/silica.htm prevent any moisture problems? I have tons of tools in my garage and tghey do not seem to get affected. We don't have big temperature swings here either.

GT

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CWL
March 10, 2003, 08:53 PM
Yes it'll work, but for a little more, you can get an electrically operated Goldenrod system. It will be cheaper in the long run.

You can get them from www.brownells.com or www.cabellas.com.

Kahr carrier
March 10, 2003, 09:00 PM
I would go for Both the Golden Rod and the desicant, Is your washing machine and dryer in the garage ?? Because if they are they will put alot of moisture in the air.

TarpleyG
March 10, 2003, 09:14 PM
Washer and dryer are in there but on the other side. I figure since nothing else has shown corrosion in three years I'm probably alright. I'll check on the Golderod too.

GT

Peter Gun
March 11, 2003, 12:26 AM
Just want to point out one thing. In one of the many suspense novels I read, A bad guy got his guns from a citizens gun cabinet in the garage. It was well locked and armored, but unfortunately situated next to a tool bench which contained a hacksaw, grinder and bolt cutters!:rolleyes:

Blackhawk
March 11, 2003, 12:55 AM
Silica-gel dessicants are great. Refresh them in the microwave every once in a while.

WhoKnowsWho
March 11, 2003, 03:54 AM
I thought the dessicants were usually in a metal container? Wouldn't a normal oven be a better way to refresh it? That's what the description on the ones I have seen said to do.

TarpleyG
March 11, 2003, 06:07 AM
Yeah. The description says to put it in the oven. I don't think I have room for a Goldenrod in there. It's pretty small.

Peter Gun, If someone wants something, they'll take it. If they are in my garage, they will have access to the rest of the house anyway. Besides, the tools are locked up as well. My garage is the only place I have (that the wife will let me anyway and that won't look terrible) to mount to concrete block. In Florida, homes are built with concrete block (CBS) and "scabbed" with a firring strip. A small amount of insulation is sometimes then put in between and drywall nailed up. No real studs to speak of. The interior walls are all metal studs and useless when it comes to securing something to them.

GT

hd1.
March 11, 2003, 08:44 AM
I suggest that you use a Plywood spacer between the cabinet and the block wall. I do this when mounting electrical panels in basements, to reduce moisture and corrosion.

TarpleyG
March 11, 2003, 10:01 AM
That's a good idea. 1/4" enough?

braindead0
March 11, 2003, 10:14 AM
I'd think 1/2"..

As far as the goldenrod, I'm not sure how much good that will do in a stackon. I've got a large one in a stack-on rifle locker..and a humidity/temp monitor that monitors both the inside and outside the unit. There have been no reduction in the humidity inside the cabinet, unless I refresh my 2# silica gel..at which point it drops.

JohnBT
March 11, 2003, 11:34 AM
A few odds and ends to add:

As I understand it, a Goldenrod or a light bulb doesn't lower the humidity, it raises the dew point. Don't ask me to explain it, all I know is that it works. Humidity is something we have lots of. Heck, the James River is tidal downtown and we're 100 miles inland. There're even cypress swamps north and east of town. Humid. Current temp is 37*F and the humidity is 73%.

They make a 12" Golden rod (and 18", 24" and 36".)

The local Ben Franklin craft store sells dessicant for flower drying. A 48 oz. plastic tub was something like $10.

John

AJ Dual
March 11, 2003, 02:02 PM
Hey, I'm not throwing stones here because, my own "security situation" is, well... (cough) a bit informal right now.

Just want to point out one thing. In one of the many suspense novels I read, A bad guy got his guns from a citizens gun cabinet in the garage. It was well locked and armored, but unfortunately situated next to a tool bench which contained a hacksaw, grinder and bolt cutters!

But I had the Stack-On 12 gun cabinet, and once when I lost the keys :rolleyes: I was in the cabinet within 2 minutes application of a large flat-blade Craftsman screwdriver and a ball-peen hammer, much less a garage full of tools...

They're for nothing more than legal CYA, and keeping your houseguests and kids, if you have any, honest.

FWIW.

TarpleyG
March 11, 2003, 02:49 PM
Like I said, if someone wants it, they'll take it whether its in my garage or my house. the door into my house from the garage is easy to bypass. I cannot afford (nor do I have a need for) a real safe right now. I have exactly 4 handguns and two shotguns, none of which I cannot replace readily with insurance money. Not that I like the idea of some low-life BG using one of my guns in a crime against some innocent person, mind you.

GT

M1911
March 11, 2003, 03:36 PM
braindead0: The goldenrod does not lower the humidity. It does promote air circulation by heating the air down low in the box. This reduces condensation.

http://www.goldenroddehumidifiers.com/pages/other-pages/faqs.html

JohnBT
March 11, 2003, 05:10 PM
Dern it, I looked all over for that information Sunday night and never stumbled over it using Google - I did see info that GR did not have a site.

I only wanted to know if they recommended using an oversized GR in a safe. My new one is going into a very damp basement.

Thank you. I'm off to West Marine to buy a big 'un.

John

Double Naught Spy
March 11, 2003, 05:18 PM
Since there is a lack of environmental control where my safe is, I use both a Golden Rod and dessicant (from Cabela's) and actually use about 3 times the dessicant for the space enclosed. The dessicant really takes up little space and so the extra amount isn't a problem. It does soak up the moisture and about once a month the dessicant packs get dehydrated in the oven and reused. Guns not to be used in the immediate future are treated with Rig Rag as well.

It may be overkill, but rust is an evil, patient, and insidious demon of an adversary.

FYI - I initially went with just the dessicant alone and was not happy with the results. The Golden Rod seems to be a very neat gizmo.

larry408
March 11, 2003, 06:15 PM
Blackhawk,
How do you refresh Silica-gel dessicants In a mircowave? I have heard of doing it in a regular oven.

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