March 12, 2005, 04:45 PM
Are there any rifles out there that shoot both of these??

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March 12, 2005, 04:46 PM
I meant both out of the same rifle...

March 12, 2005, 04:57 PM
It would be impossible without changing barrels. The cartridges are dramatically different dimension-wise, not to mention the issue with the rimmed vs. unrimmed cartridge in the same gun.

March 12, 2005, 09:33 PM
One word: "Why?"

March 12, 2005, 09:52 PM
Yes, there is a rifle that can shoot both.

It's called a Thompson/Center Encore Rifle...but you'll need to buy two barrels for it.

March 12, 2005, 10:40 PM
There's also chamber inserts, but your accuracy will... Lemme put it this way... it won't be pretty.

If you want .30-30 performance (and recoil...) out of a .30-06, it is possible to load it down to those levels.

If you want .30-06 performance out of a .30-30, you can do it. Once, and you better have your insurance paid up.

If you're looking for a nice "all in one" rifle, consider a .270. Yeah, I know it sounds smaller. Trust me.

March 13, 2005, 02:04 AM
bullets are close in size, but the casing and pressures are WAY different.

Just buy a gun for each. A multi-caliber weapon is cool, but two rifles make up for it.

March 13, 2005, 10:54 AM
Remington makes "Managed Recoil" loads for the 30-06. It is a 125gr bullet at somewhere a lil over 2000 fps. It's supposed to recoil like a 30-30 but have better downrange performance because of bullet profile.
The managed recoil rounds are a good alternative to tooling up for reloading.

March 13, 2005, 11:18 AM
In a practical sense, no, but anything can be rigged ala "Rube Goldberg"

March 13, 2005, 11:38 AM
I don't think it can be done, even with a chamber adapter. A chamber adapter requires the original chamber to be large enough for the adapter and/or smaller round to fit in it. The base size of the 30-06 is .473", and the rim size of the 30-30 is .506" diameter, which is larger than the '06 chamber, so the round could not go in far enough to fully chamber, and the bolt face would not fit over the rim of the 30-30 round either.

As was mentioned above, why?. Both rounds are easily available, so that isn't an issue. If you don't want the noise or recoil of the '06, the reduced power loads are available, or just practice and get used to it. I started shooting 30-06's when I was 13 and thought it was great fun, and it still is. Good plinker round, and a good hunting round.

March 14, 2005, 08:53 AM

I gotta look, but somewhere around here I've got a pic of some popular .30 rounds from 7.62x39 up to .30-06.

Ah, here it is, the thread below contains the pic about the .30 rounds, #4 in the thread.


If you take a look at the dimensions of the .30/30 vs the .30-06, it is easy to see why this idea doesn't work...rimmed .30/30, rimless .30-06, etc

The US Navy tried a similar idea with .308/7.62 Nato chamber inserts in the .30-06 chambered M1's. It sort of worked, untill the chamber insert would get pulled out with one of the .308 empties, and when chambering the next round, the shooter now had a .308 round in a .30-06 sized chamber. When fired, things got....well, exciting for the shooter.

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