In the immortal words of Jed Clampett...


March 11, 2003, 12:03 AM
"That there's a nice piece, but this here's what I carry..."

Ladies and gentlemen, i present the MK42 5"/54 gun mount.

Now where are all those puny .357's??



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March 11, 2003, 12:07 AM
Sure you do!

Are you King Kong's big brother...? :D

March 11, 2003, 12:09 AM

not that i recall...

ok, its a little tough to get out of the holster, but when I do...

thats a full auto gun btw! about 60 rounds a minute if i remember correctly.


March 11, 2003, 12:22 AM
Does the targetting radar screw with your cell phone reception or set off those anti-shoplifting gizmos at Wally World?

March 11, 2003, 07:41 AM
when i was in there was no such thing as a cell phone, we were in hong kong at the Sony factroy in '77 checking out the new technology and were absolutely WOWED by these new fangled tiny pocket calculators. i do believe there were incidents of garage doors opening and the like. It (radar) was capable of knocking a seagull out of the air should it be unlucky enough to stray into the beam.
i remembered later what a gunner told me. first off the range was about 25 miles, the projectile weighed 72 lbs. the powder case weighed 38 lbs with a charge of 19 lbs of powder. the projectile left the muzzle at 2650 fps. (anyone want to figure ft/lbs?) and my buddy's comment was "At 25 miles we can hit your house with the first shot, with the second we can hit your coffee table"

ouch! mom probably wouldn't have liked that...


p.s. when i was studying nuclear physics for the navy back there in '76 we were using SLIDE RULES!

March 11, 2003, 08:46 AM
Speaking of Wally World:

Do you buy the Winchester white box 5"/54 from WalMart or load your own?

Mal H
March 11, 2003, 08:49 AM
How much does a set of batteries cost to run that?

March 11, 2003, 09:19 AM
no batteries for that one,
the train motor draws 500 amps starting up and the elevation motor draws 350 amps.
with laser deignation and a seeker head you can pick which shirt button you want to hit at @18 miles range.
ammo comes with fuseing choices of VT(proximity), MT(timed),
base(delay),infared(jet targets),and laser seeker.

while its ROF can be up to 60 rpm it expends its 40 rounds of carrousel ready ammo then drops to as fast as the magazine crew can load the hoist.

after 60 rounds in 30 minutes there is a significant hazard of
cookoff if a round is left in the tube.
most destroyers which have this mount have a 600 round magazine below the waterline conncted by a hoist.

this one can be fired by only one guy till the ready ammo runs out.

usn 77/81 gunnersmate.

March 11, 2003, 09:24 AM
Does a 60 rpm make this a Class III weapon?

March 11, 2003, 10:31 AM
Does B-Square make a mount for a '98 Ford Ranger??


Will Fennell
March 11, 2003, 10:36 AM
I take it that since there is no flash suppressor or bayonet lug, that this baby is POST BAN?:scrutiny:

Dave P
March 11, 2003, 11:15 AM
Is this C&R compliant? And whats the best way to ship it? Is overnight delivery required?

4v50 Gary
March 11, 2003, 11:18 AM
Developed for one-shot stops. Considering that it vaporizes the target, it works.

March 11, 2003, 01:04 PM
It's nice but wrong for hunting. I suspect it'll spoil a lot of meat and the damage to the fur would be had to overcome.:p

March 11, 2003, 01:48 PM

March 11, 2003, 03:19 PM
Let's fill the UN building full of jello and do some ballistic testing!!



March 11, 2003, 05:55 PM
powder comes in regular and flashless(for night firing)

projectile loads can be WP(incidiary/smoke),Hicap(more bang less penetration),AP(thick walls /base fused) or AA(wire for shrapnel)

any fuse can be on any projectile to mix and match as you please.

ps: this round and projectile can be used in any 5"54 mount
mk42(VARIOUS MODS) or mk45(light weight gun mount)

March 11, 2003, 06:37 PM
lol, i knew i'd stir up a little fun with that one. willy peter or white phosphorus, (starshells) i thought about it later. the rounds were said to contain glass tubes full of the stuff and broke upon firing and lit up the sky like it was some surreal day. when we onloaded ammo everything we loaded was hand to hand in a long line from the main deck down into the mags except the wp. that was carried all the way by only the chosen few one round each while everybody else got out of the way. I was one of them. I still wonder if it was because i was so good or they just didnt like me. dropping them was not an acceptable option, they posted barrels of water along the way so if one went off we could toss it in the barrel, yea,,,ok,,,you first...

and ...quick story on cook offs,

the standard procedure on a misfire with a hot barrel was to stick a fire hose down the muzzle and flood it with water to cool it down. well one day theyre doing this and a daring senior type guy climbs on and shimmies up the barrel to have a look see inside. as he's about to take a peek the thing cooks off and sends the nozzle and some firehose for a long ride off into nowhere. now, imagine being on the barrel of that thing when it goes off...just standing anywhere near the thing was more than enough for me, but on the barrel?


March 12, 2003, 07:26 AM
by the time i got in they had given up on cooling hot guns with misfires, check the shots fired vs time chart, if any chance of cookoff, go have coffee whille fire control keeps it pointed downrange.

had a pigtail shear off the block, hot gun...
had to wrestle my ensign out of the gun mount.... arrrgh.
XO said "i was a good boy "and the ensign would calm down later.

usn 77/81
indian ocean tanning club
sink the Kiluwea

March 12, 2003, 08:11 AM
ohhh, i got some ensign stories too...

mostly snipe ones


funny how you remember stuff later,

for those of you who dont know, the guy in the mount actually held a trigger like device to fire it off, i thought that was pretty funny, hmmm, wonder how much a trigger job would be on one of those.

i was watching footage from some of those pacific battles last nite, now i wasnt crazy about being on the outside when these things popped off, the word loud doesn't cover it. them guys back then had everything they had going all at once, i can't begin to imagine being on deck with all that noise happening at the same time.

hats off to them!


oh, i'm glad to see the navy worked out a better plan for them misfires, eh?

Ol' Badger
March 12, 2003, 09:09 AM
The UN Building is already filled with Jello! :D

March 12, 2003, 10:29 AM
What finishes are offered with that:
Blued, Stainless, Parkerized, Satin nickel? How much would it cost to get a 'Treebark' type finish on it?
How about inscriptions? Can I get this with custom engraving and have 'the last argument of kings' put on it in Latin?
By the way, what is it in Latin, I have forgotten.

Mal H
March 12, 2003, 11:08 AM
"Ultima Ratio Regum" Louis XIV had it inscribed on his cannons.

March 12, 2003, 03:44 PM
unfortunately it only comes in two finishes first there's haze gray and then, let me think, oh yea, there's haze grey...

and if you were really good with it you got to paint a great big E on it, the heads like it when you paint great big E's on various things on their boat. looks good on their resume's. besides, your division might even get ice cream or a cake or grilled steak and lobster. now there's something to shoot for...


March 13, 2003, 01:08 AM
Nice rig, but I prefer a ZSU-23-4 for when I'm hunting ducks down at the CEEment pond. Shoot golf with it, too. :D

March 13, 2003, 07:41 AM
we all oughta get together for a little game of ricochet...


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