How much more recoil does a .223 have than a .22?


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Kenshin
March 17, 2005, 10:34 PM
What title says.

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rock jock
March 17, 2005, 10:54 PM
Relatively speaking, a lot.

wasrjoe
March 17, 2005, 11:03 PM
I have a differing point of view. I believe that it has bunches more recoil.

GigaBuist
March 17, 2005, 11:07 PM
Well..a .22LR bolt action has nothing that I can feel at all. I've had small women and young boys (13?) fire my AR-15 and there isn't any recoil there that bothers them. It moves, but not enough to bother anybody that I've ever seen -- and the kids love it! A bolt action .223 is another matter I'd imagine.

It just depens on the platform... a gas-op gun is going to recoil less than a bolt action.

Can you give some more specifics as to WHY you're wondering this?

MiniZ
March 17, 2005, 11:25 PM
There is quite a bit more recoil(subjective), but certainly not an amount that would cause discomfort.

nico
March 18, 2005, 12:13 AM
GigaBuist hit the nail on the head. With a .22lr, the action cycling (if it's a semi-auto) contributes to recoil more than bullet energy. Relatively, .223 has a lot more recoil, but in a gun like an AR it's still not much. I'm a wimp with recoil and I could shoot an AR from a bench all day without my shoulder getting sore.

P95Carry
March 18, 2005, 12:40 AM
Most has been said. Short answer - a whole heap of difference!!

.223 in a gas operated rifle/carbine is pretty tame but - even with muzzle blast factor - it is way beyond .22lr! .22lr is all but zero recoil - negligable muzzle blast.

If I use .223 in my Contender - it is very comfortable - bit like mild .44 mag - but if I had a .22lr barrel - it'd be effectively ''recoiless''. :) .223 in my Ruger 77 - pretty darned ''comfortable'' but - gun sure does move some!

We are comparing here two rounds with very differing characteristics ... both from pressure POV as well as velocity. I mean .. say the .22lr has MV of around 1200 - with a 40 grain bullet. Compare that with a 55 grainer doing 3300 or more - there must perforce be a big difference!!

Compare energy - 22lr - around 128 ft pounds ... .223 rem - 1330 ft lbs !!!!!

Fumbler
March 18, 2005, 01:12 AM
In a lightweight (4 lbs) rifle a 22LR would make about 0.2 ft-lbs of recoil energy.
A 7.5 bls rifle in 223 will make about 3.0 ft-lbs. That's a WHOLE HECK of a lot more, 15x more.
But...thats still only 3 ft-lbs. A 7.5 lbs 308win makes almost 16 ft-lbs shooting typical 150gr ammo.
Regular dove loads in 12 ga make about the same as the 308.

Barry2
March 18, 2005, 01:14 AM
My 12 year old daughter loves 22lr but refuses to shoot my 700PSS in .223 (Bolt Action). .223 does not hurt her and the rifle is plenty heavy enough to soak up recoil, but it's the BANG she does not like.

Barry

Fumbler
March 18, 2005, 01:18 AM
I have found my 30-06 to lose about 5 ft-lbs of recoil energy when I double up on hearing protection


:p

30Cal
March 18, 2005, 12:48 PM
In my big scale of recoil
.22LR-->zero
.223-->hardly any. Can shoot an infinite number of rounds without discomfort
30-06-->uncomfortable after 20 rds without padding
.338WinMag-->Immediately uncomfortable regardless of padding

Barry2
March 18, 2005, 06:38 PM
Kenshin,
If that's not enough info....well we all give up....come to USI in Concord and shoot my .223 for yourself. (serious offer, if you would like to)

Barry

Kenshin
March 18, 2005, 07:09 PM
Thanx all. BTW, I only wanted to know how much just so I would know something for gun trivia. :D

nipprdog
March 18, 2005, 09:53 PM
:rolleyes:

Barry2
March 18, 2005, 10:53 PM
So if you really want to know "for gun trivia" drag your butt to the range and TRY ONE. NO previous experience required, and I promise not to tell if your a bad shot. :) If you are legally able to own a gun and are of a suitable age, it's fun to try.

No pressure here

Barry

ShaiVong
March 18, 2005, 11:54 PM
My 100lb wife who hates guns and never shoots fired 20 rounds through my AR15 extremely quickly, and the recoil didnt seem to bother her one bit.

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