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Harold Mayo
March 11, 2003, 04:11 PM
This from the Associated Press:

NEW YORK (AP) - Three people were in custody Tuesday in connection with the killing of two police detectives who were shot in the head during an undercover mission to buy illegal guns, officials said.

The detectives, who had been driving with two associates of a gun seller, were found Monday night lying on a street on Staten Island, both shot in the head. They were the first New York City officers killed on duty since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorism attacks.

``This kind of barbarism will not be tolerated in this city,'' Mayor Michael Bloomberg said.

Two people were taken into custody during the night and the third was taken in for questioning Tuesday, officials said.

Police officers in riot gear had swarmed over the crime scene. Police also shut down the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge, which connects Staten Island and Brooklyn, and forced a Manhattan-bound ferry to return to its dock on Staten Island so passengers could be checked late Monday.

The slain detectives had been working on the gun operation for about six months. Their identities were withheld in part because of the risk to other undercover officers.

The officers reportedly still had the money they carried to buy the gun and their own guns were still in their holsters. They apparently had not fired a shot.

The two slain detectives were hoping to buy a Tech-9 submachine gun and had picked up two associates of a man who had previously sold one of the officers a gun. Their car was secretly being tailed by four undercover police cars.

When the detectives' car stopped suddenly, the backup officers were forced to keep driving to avoid being detected. The backups lost sight of the car when it drove off again and lost radio contact with the detectives when they entered a hilly area, Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said.


Is the Tec-9 considered a submachinegun?

What is illegal about it? It's ugly and I would never buy one, but they're completely legal, aren't they? Well, it IS New York City, though.

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bogie
March 11, 2003, 04:37 PM
A lot of the early ones were fairly easily modifiable - that was changed after the first production runs.

Oleg Volk
March 11, 2003, 04:41 PM
How did the 357 revolver of the earlier version of this story change to a 9mm submachine gun?

Atticus
March 11, 2003, 04:46 PM
Hardly worth two lives. :uhoh:

BamBam
March 11, 2003, 06:48 PM
Reminds me of prohibition. They outlawed booze and the mafia supplies it anyway. Then comes the bloodbath to keep a cold beer out of your fridge. Cops putting their life on the line because the goverment says you can't have a beer.

Ruby Ridge: Saw a shotgun down 1/2" (?) and your wife gets murdered. LEOs risking their lives because the government proclaims that the constitution says what THEY say it says.

Second amendment? They announce that it's an anachronism: "Citizens no longer need protection from the government. The govermnent will never get too powerful."

Overly simplified, I know, but it aint all wrong either.

hammer4nc
March 11, 2003, 07:03 PM
The two slain detectives were hoping to buy a Tech-9 submachine gun

More dubious reporting. The intratec tec-9 was always a semi-auto, wasn't it? Never available full auto? It was banned because it looked evil...and they changed it to the model ab-10; same gun, but no threaded barrel, and shroud. Maybe some members who own these models can confirm?

ajacobs
March 11, 2003, 07:18 PM
It was illegal becuase it was in NY. You must have a purchase permit to buy a handgun. This is not a liscence, but a permit for each individual handgun that must be gotten in advance.

Blackhawk
March 11, 2003, 07:33 PM
Bad scene. :(

WilderBill
March 11, 2003, 09:28 PM
If they're gonna shot somebody, maybe they should start with the morons that passed the law.

Flying V
March 12, 2003, 01:30 AM
Whatever for? A cut of the profit would be more appropriate.

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