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Kevlarman
March 11, 2003, 06:46 PM
After 30 minutes it's free, after 2 hours you're fired
Last Updated Mon, 10 Mar 2003 15:52:08

SELKIRK, MAN. - A single mother lost her job delivering pizza because she took time off duty to attend to a man who had been shot in the stomach.
In February, she was driving with a friend in her pizza car when the friend's daughter called to say there had been a shooting on her street. McAulay drove her friend home, but as she pulled up one of two shooting victims called for help.

Marcella McAulay was working part-time for Frank's Pizza in Selkirk, a town of 10,000 about 30 kilometres north of Winnipeg.

McAulay, 34, went in the house and stayed with the victims until police and paramedics arrived.

One man was shot in the stomach; another in the wrist. The shooter had fled the scene.

"He was pretty scared and he felt he was dying," McAulay told the weekly Selkirk Journal, referring to the man shot in the stomach. She tried to keep him awake and applied pillows to the wound to slow the bleeding.

Police detained McAulay for questioning, and when she reported back to Frank's Pizza her supervisor, Jason Boyd, fired her. "We feel just as bad as the next guy, but we don't pay employees to be EMTs (emergency medical technicians)," Boyd said.

Boyd wasn't at the store Monday morning, but his assistant, Randy Saluk, told CBC News Online that McAulay was out "joy-riding" with her friend.

He said when she went to help the shooting victim she left her nightly float money in the unlocked pizza car.

The man shot in the stomach is a 33-year-old Winnipeg man. The victim shot in the wrist is a 33- year-old Selkirk man.

Daniel Keep, 33, of Selkirk was arrested and charged with aggravated assault. He remains in custody.

Written by CBC News Online staff

http://cbc.ca/stories/2003/03/10/pizza_shooting030310

And the Canucks are saying we're inhuman?

:barf:

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Jesse H
March 11, 2003, 06:49 PM
Reminds me of the Starbucks that charged people for bottle water during 9/11.

gryphon
March 11, 2003, 06:50 PM
And the Canadians want to know why there are a lot of Americans that have animosity toward them. Here is yet another reason. :mad:

Blackhawk
March 11, 2003, 06:55 PM
Better than "the dog ate my homework" excuse for malingering on company time with a company vehicle and holding company money. :rolleyes:

Triad
March 11, 2003, 06:56 PM
You folks really think that couldn't, or hasn't, taken place in the US?

El Tejon
March 11, 2003, 06:56 PM
Who's the PR firm? No, I mean who WAS the PR agency?

Hkmp5sd
March 11, 2003, 07:16 PM
Since she beat the police and EMS to the scene, I guess there wasn't very much joyriding with her friend. Sure hope the community slams the pizza joint.

hammer4nc
March 11, 2003, 07:18 PM
The only person deserving disdain in this story, is the small minded pizza manager...wrongful termination. Better that the good samaritan delivery lady got fired sooner rather than later, from a poorly managed operation.

In a lot of these cases that get publicized, the person finds themselves with much better job offers than the job they lost. Here's hoping it works out that way in this case.

BamBam
March 11, 2003, 07:31 PM
Isn't the REAL tragedy the guy who had to wait two hours for his pizza? :cuss:

Blackhawk
March 11, 2003, 07:50 PM
I don't think she was on an outbound delivery even though it makes a cute title. :D

Crimper-D
March 11, 2003, 08:13 PM
This employers actions are reprehensable. :fire:

One word solution: BOYCOTT! :cuss:

Blackhawk
March 11, 2003, 08:25 PM
Boycott PIZZA...?!

How about if we just boycott Frank's Pizza in Selkirk, Manitoba, Canada?

We can direct our business to the guy in Denmark! :D

sonny
March 11, 2003, 08:32 PM
I loosely organized the boycot of about a 1/2 dozen local stores that price gouged on 9/11 ......they are still being boycotted to this day.......Reminds me of the Starbucks that charged people for bottle water during 9/11.[QUOTE]Reminds me of the Starbucks that charged people for bottle water during 9/11.

Dogsoldier
March 11, 2003, 08:34 PM
Reminds me of the time, my sister got fired from a large, well know discount chain store that I have never set foot in since. And we are talking over 20 years.

The story is, my sister was working the bedroom ware isle. When a pregnant woman passed out and fell to the ground. My sis, a third year nursing student at the time, grabbed a couple of pillows off the shelf and propped up the lady's feet. She also took a blanket to cover the lady who was obviously shocky looking.

After the ambulance came and went, the EMTs said sis did a great job. The next day she was brought in to the manager's office and chewed out. You see, the store could not sell those two pillows and blanket. She was going to be wrutten up and was to pay for the items she "ruined". She told the store manager were he could put it, and he said "your're fired". All she said was, "Guess I am" and left.

All I can say is I never seen my dad go beserk like he did when my sister told him what had happened. It took everything my mom could do to keep him from horse whipping that manager.

cratz2
March 11, 2003, 08:40 PM
Not exactly the same thing but I worked for a computer company, the management of which is now integrated into a very large computer company, that relieved a temporary worker of duty because he was in a wreck in the parking lot with a semi for that company. He came in with blood all over his face and a big gash in his head and they fired him go to Med Check and not to come back to work.

Harold Mayo
March 11, 2003, 08:51 PM
The only person deserving disdain in this story, is the small minded pizza manager...wrongful termination. Better that the good samaritan delivery lady got fired sooner rather than later, from a poorly managed operation.

Yeah, I imagine it is so. Power trips taken by small-minded petty fast-food dictators. I always feel sorry for the people who work under them...and I feel sorry for them that their world is small enough that lording their authority over minimum-wage workers (or nearly) gives them such thrills.

KMKeller
March 11, 2003, 09:27 PM
Then let the proprietor know how you feel...

Frank's Pizza
(204) 482-7922
381 Main St, Selkirk, Manitoba R1A 1T7

Autolite
March 11, 2003, 11:40 PM
I remember hearing that, years ago, it was company policy for truck drivers working for the Labatts Brewery to stop and aid stranded motorists. Labatts drivers were obligated to stop and help people on company time ...

(Labbats, BTW, is a Canadian Company)

TDDude
March 11, 2003, 11:46 PM
I think it would have taken more than a nagging wife to keep me from kicking the living s*** out of my daughters boss if she was treated like that.

Don Gwinn
March 11, 2003, 11:54 PM
Remember the old maxim-call the ambulance, then call for a pizza, and see which one comes first!

Frohickey
March 12, 2003, 12:05 AM
Reminds me of the Starbucks that charged people for bottle water during 9/11.

I can see both sides of the issue.

One, a lady helps out in a shooting, but is fired. Sounds like the equitable solution to that is keep the lady, but say that she was on a long break when she was helping the man. This way the pizza store is not paying for the time she is not working.

Two, Starbucks can charge people for bottled water during 9/11. There was no expectation of free private property even during times of crisis. If it was labeled as free, and then Starbucks changes it mind, then I could see the outrage. The real story behind this was that the ambulance company was brushed off when it asked Starbucks if it was overcharged for 3 cases of bottled water ($130).

Three, the ruined pillows and sister helping a pregnant woman. Company is wrong to ask the employee to pay for it, maybe the company should have asked the pregnant woman instead.


If during a riot situation, I came across a neighbor of mine asking to have me give him one of my guns for his protection, I do not have any obligation to render aid. I might be inclined to render aid, but forced charity is an oxymoron.

Double Naught Spy
March 12, 2003, 12:21 AM
The pizza manager is a jerk, no doubt, but the termination is not wrongful in regard to laws concerning personnel management. It is wrongful in an ethical sense, but still legal. My guess is that the employee probably was not well liked by the manager already (for whatever reason) and the incident simply gave him a justified reason for termination.

As noted by Frohickey on the bottled water, why should Starbucks be obligated to to away private property? Charging one dollar for a bottle of water is robbey as far as I am concerned, but one dollar isn't price gouging and seems to be about what a lot of convenience stores charge and maybe is actually cheaper than many convenience stores.

Monkeyleg
March 12, 2003, 12:35 AM
Just made a call to the pizzaria in question.

"Is this the pizza place that fired a woman for helping before police and fire personnel arrived?

"Yes, sir."

"You're one sorry son of a b."

I don't see any need to argue the point beyond that. Does anyone else?

CZ-75
March 12, 2003, 02:22 AM
"You're one sorry son of a b."

Did you ask for the manager, or just chew out some order taker?

:uhoh:

Archie
March 12, 2003, 02:52 AM
Canada has gun registration and serious gun control laws. This whole thing could not have possibly happened.

Must be a right-wing, tinfoil hat conspiricy.

twoblink
March 12, 2003, 05:09 AM
First, let me address the manager. :barf: :barf: :barf:

second, let me address the lady: :cool:

Third, let me say that moraless managers are a dime a dozen.

I was asked to do something illegal by my manager; when I refused, he told me there would be "dire consequences" if I refused.

next day, I had my laptop taken away for examination of "stolen vital information". etc..

I was fired later. Whatever. I don't need to work for moraless people...

As far as the pizza place.. Maybe someone will go in and find a cockroach in there and have the place shutdown!

What someone should do is order pizzas and then cancel orders...

p35
March 12, 2003, 11:31 AM
Had a similar situation here in WA a couple years ago: armored car driver is sitting in his vehicle waiting for his buddy who is in the bank making a pickup when the bank manager comes running out the door with a terrified look on her face followed by some nut waving a knife. Driver gets out, pulls his weapon, and chases off said nut. He then gets fired for getting out of the vehicle, which is against policy.

The state Supreme Court said he had a valid case for wrongful termination.

Blackhawk
March 12, 2003, 11:39 AM
Excluding and before the circumstances regarding the wounded man, there was cause to fire her.

She was driving around in a pizza car with a friend she had picked up. If she'd been in an accident and her friend injured, the pizza joint would have been financially responsible.

jsalcedo
March 12, 2003, 11:44 AM
About 6 years ago there was a mail carrier that saw a woman
being raped in a field next to his route. He bonked the rapist
on the head with a heavy log and possibly saved the womans life.

The guy was given a award by the police and written up as a hero in the local papers but was summarily discharged from the post office for an infraction involving leaving his route and not
calling 911.

RobW
March 12, 2003, 12:45 PM
I ask myself everyday how far stupidity, negligence, and apathy will go in our society.

There must be a virus out there!

"The more advanced we become as a civilisation, the less civilized we become as an advanced nation"

mrsMTN
March 12, 2003, 12:59 PM
I concur with Blackhawk in that the real violation was picking up, riding around with, and dropping off a friend. That is normally not tolerated in a delivery job. I'd be curious as to whether the firing actually had anything to do with the shooting (which the employee would not even have been aware of if she had not had a passenger).

Quartus
March 12, 2003, 01:08 PM
Bingo. You don't have a right to hang out with your pals on company time. The firing was justified on that basis. She doesn't get a free ride because she happened to help someone while she was committing a gross violation of company policy. If she had NOT had her friend along, I would be outraged at this, but the fact is, she DID.

4v50 Gary
March 12, 2003, 01:38 PM
Excellant chance for great Public Relations and what do they do? They fire the lady and blow it!

JackM
March 12, 2003, 02:48 PM
As usual, the CBC gets it half right. Marcella McAulay was using her own car. So unless she was claiming excess mileage the pizza jerk doesn't have a case. Selkirk is a small town and will take care of it's own.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/viewtopic.php?t=6137
http://www.canoe.ca/WinnipegNews/ws.ws-03-12-0008.html

Bye
Jack

BamBam
March 12, 2003, 03:00 PM
No telling what actually happened. Perhaps she had it comming because of past foul-ups; perhaps not.

The pizza joint blew a good PR opportunity. The headline Could have read:

"Pizza delivery girl comforts shooting victim"

The pizza place would have gotten a mention and folks would probably drop by to see the woman....and buy a pizza.

Tamara
March 12, 2003, 03:23 PM
I was fired later. Whatever. I don't need to work for moraless people...

As far as the pizza place.. Maybe someone will go in and find a cockroach in there and have the place shutdown!

What someone should do is order pizzas and then cancel orders...

Dude, is your irony sensor busted or something? Punish "moraless" behavior with fraud and lies? :confused:

Freedom in theSkies
March 12, 2003, 05:05 PM
I remember hearing that, years ago, it was company policy for truck drivers working for the Labatts Brewery to stop and aid stranded motorists. Labatts drivers were obligated to stop and help people on company time ...

Next time I get the opporunity, I think I will crawl out onto the road in the path of a Labatt delivery truck while feining sickness/dizziness/lack of good judgement... So if I get run over by said truck, It's gonna be all your fault, Autolite!:neener:

And yes, Autolite, you still get my guns wnen I'm a' gonner...:(

anchored
March 12, 2003, 05:11 PM
I don't believe a bit of it. Everyone knows canadians don't shoot people - only Americans do! She must have made the story up.

moa
March 12, 2003, 06:19 PM
As the saying goes, "No good deed goes unpunished!"

Quartus
March 12, 2003, 06:41 PM
She admits she had been warned before by the new owners about giving rides to friends while working,


That's from the Canadian Gun Nutz link posted above. It's real simple - she was goofing off when this happened. It HAPPENS that she helped a gunshot victim while she was goofing off, but she was goofing off. And not for the first time. She deserved to be fired.

But it's a PR disaster.

PATH
March 12, 2003, 06:42 PM
Bone head move on the part of the manager.

cratz2
March 12, 2003, 11:45 PM
Bad timing is still reflective of bad management.

A good manager would have praised her for helping the victim and given her a warning for driving her friend around And waited until the next time she got busted with a friend in her car while on the clock to fire her.

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