pittspilot
February 9, 2005, 12:33 PM
http://home.cinci.rr.com/vladdies/fastshooter.wmv
I believe it is Jerry Miculik, right?
That speedload was unreal.
I believe it is Jerry Miculik, right?
That speedload was unreal.
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foghornl
February 9, 2005, 12:52 PM
Me faster than that ? ? ?
uhhhmmmm NO!
Like I really had to think about it . . . .
That wasn't one of those GE Mini-guns [think Predator movie] in an S&W frame, was it?
uhhhmmmm NO!
Like I really had to think about it . . . .
That wasn't one of those GE Mini-guns [think Predator movie] in an S&W frame, was it?
MLH
February 9, 2005, 01:17 PM
I broke my jaw when it hit the floor! :what: :D
Ankeny
February 9, 2005, 02:13 PM
On this side of the ocean? Probably not. Across the big pond? There are a couple of guys real close. The next IPSC World Shoot will be pretty interesting in revolver division.
OH25shooter
February 9, 2005, 02:23 PM
As I type this, my mouth is wide open. :what: I replayed it three times. Just unbelievable.
sgt127
February 9, 2005, 02:26 PM
That boys right handy with a revolver....
The Rabbi
February 9, 2005, 02:36 PM
Yeah, thats Jerry all right. No, no one is faster than him. He's the deity of revolver shooters. I am often tempted to burn a little Bullseye as an offering to him.....
Guy B. Meredith
February 9, 2005, 02:47 PM
when I try to invoke the link I get referred right back here. What gives?
g56
February 9, 2005, 04:03 PM
Link works for me, it's kinda funny...the audio and video aren't quite in sync. ;)
Here's a link to a review of one of Jerry Miculek's videos:
http://www.sportshooter.com/library/vid_advancedrevolver.htm
Here's a link to a review of one of Jerry Miculek's videos:
http://www.sportshooter.com/library/vid_advancedrevolver.htm
Indy7373
February 9, 2005, 04:48 PM
That is unreal. Awesome, truly awesome.
R.H. Lee
February 9, 2005, 05:01 PM
Gee whillikers. I'm not half that fast with my MKII Target. :p
DT Guy
February 9, 2005, 05:39 PM
Wow.
That's it, just
WOW.
Larry
That's it, just
WOW.
Larry
Drifter721
February 9, 2005, 05:53 PM
AWESOME! :what:
Jerry's a real nice guy to boot.
Jerry's a real nice guy to boot.
M99M12
February 9, 2005, 06:05 PM
Faster than the eye can see? Man's a snake with that revolver.
cls12vg30
February 9, 2005, 07:29 PM
Wow. All I can say is wow. I'd be interested to see the targets. He had the gun up and firing again after the reload before I even realized he had the cylinder out.
FPrice
February 9, 2005, 07:35 PM
I am often tempted to burn a little Bullseye as an offering to him.....
I suggest burning it in 2.7 gr increments or so. And repeat as needed.
I suggest burning it in 2.7 gr increments or so. And repeat as needed.
PirateShot
February 9, 2005, 09:07 PM
Does anyone know if that is a stock performance center revolver, or has the trigger been messed with to make it require no strength to pull or what? I am baffled by that speed...
prezzz
February 9, 2005, 09:43 PM
His Brother Donnie is a member of this forum "DMiculek". He lives close to me and I went to his house to look at a gun to trade. Very nice man.
If he sees this thread, I'm sure chime in to varify what we already know, that there is no one faster than his brother.
If he sees this thread, I'm sure chime in to varify what we already know, that there is no one faster than his brother.
JohnKSa
February 9, 2005, 10:11 PM
The revolver is pretty close to stock based on everything I've heard, and the rounds aren't light loaded. He said in one interview that when he shoots .38, his handloads are something like.38+P level. He's just good.
Hawkmoon
February 9, 2005, 10:53 PM
Very wierd.
I got the audio okay, but no video.
I got the audio okay, but no video.
Grey54956
February 9, 2005, 11:12 PM
I seem to recall that the revolver in question is a custom piece, but that a version of it is offered from S&W. I believe that it is an eight-shot revolver, which probably helps him get that kind of speed out of it. Essentially, the gun indexes faster than a six, and requires a shorter pull to index.
JohnKSa
February 10, 2005, 12:56 AM
He seems to be just as fast with a six shooter as an eight... The "six shots-reload-six shots" in less than 3 seconds was done with a six shot revolver, IIRC.
Guy B. Meredith
February 10, 2005, 01:36 AM
For the 8 shots on target and 2 shots on each of 4 targets Jerry used a PC 627 V-comp 8 shot .38 spl/.357 mag N-frame (just like the gun S&W gave me in a drawing at the International Revolver Championships). The other is a 625 .45 acp 6 shot N-frame.
Both are very popular with revolver competitors: ICORE members call the PC 627 V-comp a "Jerry gun".
Jerry just about owns the International Revolver Championship. Vic Pickett, Rudy Waldinger and Jason Pettit are right on his neck and keep him honest, but he owns it. (Don't think Rudy is competing in IRC since he moved back to Virginia in 2003). Vic and Jerry inevitably compete on the shootout and it is one devil of a show.
I had trouble loading the link until I switched to IE. While trying sources to load it, I ran across other forums where members were asking whether it is faked. It's not. Every year at the International Revolver Championships the local newspeople come down and put Jerry through the routine. When you hear the machine gun speed and consistent timing in the bay down the way at the IRC you know it is Jerry being interviewed.
Oh, did I mention he is one very friendly, easy going and modest person? Course the same can be said about a whole lot of the competitors. Seems to go with revolver shooting.
Both are very popular with revolver competitors: ICORE members call the PC 627 V-comp a "Jerry gun".
Jerry just about owns the International Revolver Championship. Vic Pickett, Rudy Waldinger and Jason Pettit are right on his neck and keep him honest, but he owns it. (Don't think Rudy is competing in IRC since he moved back to Virginia in 2003). Vic and Jerry inevitably compete on the shootout and it is one devil of a show.
I had trouble loading the link until I switched to IE. While trying sources to load it, I ran across other forums where members were asking whether it is faked. It's not. Every year at the International Revolver Championships the local newspeople come down and put Jerry through the routine. When you hear the machine gun speed and consistent timing in the bay down the way at the IRC you know it is Jerry being interviewed.
Oh, did I mention he is one very friendly, easy going and modest person? Course the same can be said about a whole lot of the competitors. Seems to go with revolver shooting.
motoman
February 10, 2005, 02:46 AM
That guy sounds like he is shooting a machine revolver. Man am I slow!!!
mattz357
February 10, 2005, 08:11 AM
The gun is not modified to require a light trigger pull. In fact, I believe Jerry uses a heavier trigger return spring so that the trigger returns faster.
Master Blaster
February 10, 2005, 08:56 AM
This Gent may be a bit faster, when he shoots his single action the six shots sound like one report.
The SA is a bit slower on the reload though :)
http://www.bob-munden.com/
The SA is a bit slower on the reload though :)
http://www.bob-munden.com/
Risasi
February 10, 2005, 09:28 AM
How about Delf "Jelly" Bryce? MY money would be on Bryce if he were alive and squared off in a gunfight against somebody.
Although you didn't specify if the faster man still had to be alive...
Although you didn't specify if the faster man still had to be alive...
Third_Rail
February 10, 2005, 09:42 AM
Are there any non-Realplayer videos of Bob Munden? I'd love to get an idea of his speed as well.
prezzz
February 10, 2005, 10:33 AM
Although you didn't specify if the faster man still had to be alive...
I can assure you he will not be faster if he is dead. :neener:
I can assure you he will not be faster if he is dead. :neener:
mec360
February 10, 2005, 10:56 AM
I took the Louisiana CCW class from Jerry's wife Kay and Jerry was there helping her (she did most of the talking). He brought his revolver and let the class handle it. I'm not really a revolver guy so I can't tell you if the action was heavier than normal but it was as smooth as oiled glass, easily the smoothest action I've ever felt on a revolver. FWIW, he has really big hands; I wear a size XL glove and when I shook hands with him my hand seemed small by comparison.
BTW, both the Miculeks are very nice people. They are having the grand opening of their new larger gun store in Bossier City, LA tomorrow and Jerry will be doing a speed shooting demonstration tomorrow and Saturday.
Interestingly enough, another really fast revolver guy lived in Shreveport (across the river from Bossier City) for many many years - Bill Jordan. I didn't learn this until later but I lived only a few blocks from him when I was a kid.
BTW, both the Miculeks are very nice people. They are having the grand opening of their new larger gun store in Bossier City, LA tomorrow and Jerry will be doing a speed shooting demonstration tomorrow and Saturday.
Interestingly enough, another really fast revolver guy lived in Shreveport (across the river from Bossier City) for many many years - Bill Jordan. I didn't learn this until later but I lived only a few blocks from him when I was a kid.
Risasi
February 10, 2005, 12:39 PM
prezzz said:
I can assure you he will not be faster if he is dead.
Ha, point taken prezzz. I'm not trying to take anything from the accomplishments of Miculek. I sure wouldn't want to face the guy in a duel. Unless I have some sort of extreme advantage, you know like a howizter trained on his chest. But as for the fastest I think he would be beat by some of his contemporaries of yesterdyear.
Likewise if Bryce was still alive, AND I had a howitzer train on HIS chest I am pretty sure I'd be a dead man.
Here, I found you a link on the Jelly man:
http://www.gutterfighting.org/jellybryce.html
Stats:
Draw (from holster) to shot 2/5th's of a second.
Number of kills = unknown
Could call shot placement on a peso thrown into the air.
At one time practiced 8 hours a day on his quick draw.
Point shooter.
Again, this isn't to knock Miculek, I think he is one of the two fastest men alive today. But I think these kind of guys were far more common back then.
Also we are talking pistol. We haven't even discussed rifle. There are some strangely bad cats out there yet, like Chief AJ. Some of these guys are borderline magic. Practice I guess.
I get a kick out of how history fades. Meh, I still think Wilt Chamberlain was the best Basketball player of all time. Meravich too was crazy. I dunno, that might be a toss up.
Sorry, the years of "sports" are gone in my eyes. Now it's all about how well you can "cheat" the system. And it's all about crowd entertainment. *cough* corked bat... *cough*
Ruth, Marciano, Dempsey, Hickok, Oakley, Houdini. These guys are shrouded in mystique. I think if they were alive now doing what they did then, they would stand out like sore thumbs. Take Ruth. If we brought him to now in a time machine. Heck if he could use the fancypants equipment they have now, and they put him on 'roids he'd be unstoppable.
I can assure you he will not be faster if he is dead.
Ha, point taken prezzz. I'm not trying to take anything from the accomplishments of Miculek. I sure wouldn't want to face the guy in a duel. Unless I have some sort of extreme advantage, you know like a howizter trained on his chest. But as for the fastest I think he would be beat by some of his contemporaries of yesterdyear.
Likewise if Bryce was still alive, AND I had a howitzer train on HIS chest I am pretty sure I'd be a dead man.
Here, I found you a link on the Jelly man:
http://www.gutterfighting.org/jellybryce.html
Stats:
Draw (from holster) to shot 2/5th's of a second.
Number of kills = unknown
Could call shot placement on a peso thrown into the air.
At one time practiced 8 hours a day on his quick draw.
Point shooter.
Again, this isn't to knock Miculek, I think he is one of the two fastest men alive today. But I think these kind of guys were far more common back then.
Also we are talking pistol. We haven't even discussed rifle. There are some strangely bad cats out there yet, like Chief AJ. Some of these guys are borderline magic. Practice I guess.
I get a kick out of how history fades. Meh, I still think Wilt Chamberlain was the best Basketball player of all time. Meravich too was crazy. I dunno, that might be a toss up.
Sorry, the years of "sports" are gone in my eyes. Now it's all about how well you can "cheat" the system. And it's all about crowd entertainment. *cough* corked bat... *cough*
Ruth, Marciano, Dempsey, Hickok, Oakley, Houdini. These guys are shrouded in mystique. I think if they were alive now doing what they did then, they would stand out like sore thumbs. Take Ruth. If we brought him to now in a time machine. Heck if he could use the fancypants equipment they have now, and they put him on 'roids he'd be unstoppable.
Rockrivr1
February 10, 2005, 01:01 PM
DAMN!!!!! He's fast for sure. If I tried shooting one of my revolvers that fast I'm sure the first shot would be ok, the second would be into the sky, the third into the guy next to me. etc. You get the picture. :p Then when I try to reload that fast, oppps, gun slips out of hand and lands in the mud. :uhoh: DOH!!!!
Guy B. Meredith
February 10, 2005, 01:16 PM
As far as I know, Jerry Miculek does not do fast draw. He specializes on speed once out of holster. His records were created with revolvers either at low ready or on a table to my knowledge. He does do well enough from the holster, but that is not his focus.
Jerry's "hero" was Ed McGivern. Since there is such a difference in equipment and timing technology since Ed's time, Jerry thought he could not produce an honest equivalent and so went on to create his own records.
See http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_143_23/ai_56221663.
I would think that Bob Munden is faster (no trigger return time) unloading at least three from the holster. I have seen Bob's three finger sweep technique, but have not seen him do six.
Jerry's "hero" was Ed McGivern. Since there is such a difference in equipment and timing technology since Ed's time, Jerry thought he could not produce an honest equivalent and so went on to create his own records.
See http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_143_23/ai_56221663.
I would think that Bob Munden is faster (no trigger return time) unloading at least three from the holster. I have seen Bob's three finger sweep technique, but have not seen him do six.
Risasi
February 10, 2005, 01:17 PM
I've seen Munden do a double sweep. Six shots sound like two.
45crittergitter
February 10, 2005, 01:43 PM
I was actually there that day! :neener:
Ankeny
February 10, 2005, 02:16 PM
Apples and oranges. Munden fans his special built single action and does circus tricks with the best of them. What sets Jerry Miculek apart is his ability to dominate all forms of revolver competition by a huge margin. Jerry is the best revolver shooter to ever live when it comes to "simply shooting" a double action wheel gun. No circus tricks, just getting it done.
armedcitizen
February 10, 2005, 02:37 PM
Essentially, the gun indexes faster than a six, and requires a shorter pull to index.
Makes no difference--Jerry was that fast when eight shot revolvers were a gleam in an engineer's eye.
Personally, I'm not that fast at anything!
Makes no difference--Jerry was that fast when eight shot revolvers were a gleam in an engineer's eye.
Personally, I'm not that fast at anything!
Marshall
February 10, 2005, 04:56 PM
How about 6 shots from a single action .45 Colt in 1.55 seconds...........
How about splitting a spinning playing card after you throw it in the air.......
Bob Mundon video clips (http://www.bob-munden.com/sixgun.htm)
Ah heck, I didn't click on page two before I posted this. I now see it was already posted. :o
How about splitting a spinning playing card after you throw it in the air.......
Bob Mundon video clips (http://www.bob-munden.com/sixgun.htm)
Ah heck, I didn't click on page two before I posted this. I now see it was already posted. :o
Red$tinger.308
February 10, 2005, 07:55 PM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :what:
mbs357
February 10, 2005, 11:58 PM
That's pretty fast...
I bet he could snap my backbone with just his thumb and index finger...
I bet he could snap my backbone with just his thumb and index finger...
Risasi
February 11, 2005, 07:41 PM
Hey, I have been watching (and watching, and forwarding via Email, and re-re-watching) that Miculek video.
I am trying to understand the mechanics of his reload.
1. I see he is actually flipping the gun over on it's back, into his left hand.
2. Push cylinder open with left thumb, eject with forefinger.
3. Barrel pointed up he then inserts next batch of ammo.
Here's what I am wondering; is he removing the entire cylinder and just putting a new one on? Or is he actually reloading with a speed loader? I had assumed it was a speed loader at first.
What I can glean from the internet (sitting here as captain of the USS La-z-boy), it appears his gun that he uses predominantly is a Smith 629 in 38 Super. He is also shooting double action in the video. Also what do people know about Smith guns, and how difficult it would be to get a removable cylinder setup? (Sorry, only a precursory knowledge of some of the Smiths, haven't handled all that many.)
Can anybody here help me out with the details of how he does this? Just watching the video over and over (and over) makes me want to sell every slide action I own and practice wheelgun like there is no tomorrow.
I am trying to understand the mechanics of his reload.
1. I see he is actually flipping the gun over on it's back, into his left hand.
2. Push cylinder open with left thumb, eject with forefinger.
3. Barrel pointed up he then inserts next batch of ammo.
Here's what I am wondering; is he removing the entire cylinder and just putting a new one on? Or is he actually reloading with a speed loader? I had assumed it was a speed loader at first.
What I can glean from the internet (sitting here as captain of the USS La-z-boy), it appears his gun that he uses predominantly is a Smith 629 in 38 Super. He is also shooting double action in the video. Also what do people know about Smith guns, and how difficult it would be to get a removable cylinder setup? (Sorry, only a precursory knowledge of some of the Smiths, haven't handled all that many.)
Can anybody here help me out with the details of how he does this? Just watching the video over and over (and over) makes me want to sell every slide action I own and practice wheelgun like there is no tomorrow.
Black Snowman
February 11, 2005, 07:49 PM
The magic of full moon clips (http://www.moonclips.com/) is what you're missing in the reload.
Risasi
February 11, 2005, 08:09 PM
Ahh!!!... (Lightbulb Moment)
Never knew anything like this existed.
I suppose these have been around for ages too.
Okay, so next question; If you get the cylinder setup to shoot w/ moonclips I suppose you can't shoot regular without moonclips then eh?
And since you can't shoot w/o moonclips can a gun be setup to allow for easy swap of the entire cylinder?
Never knew anything like this existed.
I suppose these have been around for ages too.
Okay, so next question; If you get the cylinder setup to shoot w/ moonclips I suppose you can't shoot regular without moonclips then eh?
And since you can't shoot w/o moonclips can a gun be setup to allow for easy swap of the entire cylinder?
Guy B. Meredith
February 11, 2005, 08:33 PM
Interchangeable cylinders is not an option. He is using moonclips which come standard with these models. The 8 shot is a S&W PC 627 Vcomp .38 spl/.357 mag, the 6 shot reload 6 shot is a 625 in .45 acp.
Revolvers that don't come set up for moonclips can be set up to use them. The above link is one good source. The shooter may shoot without the moonclip with no problems. The shooter can load individually, with speedloader or with moonclip.
Jerry's video "Ultimate Advanced Revolver" outlines it pretty well--standard method for revolver reloading. Push cylinder release with right thumb,grasp around frame with left, flip muzzle up while pushing cylinder out with middle and ring finger of left hand, press ejector rod with left thumb, right hand is at same time going for another loaded moonclip, tilt muzzle down, drop in charged moonclip, close cylinder with heel of left hand while at same time taking grip with right.
I'll take a peek at the video later, but I am pretty sure he uses the standard method.
Revolvers that don't come set up for moonclips can be set up to use them. The above link is one good source. The shooter may shoot without the moonclip with no problems. The shooter can load individually, with speedloader or with moonclip.
Jerry's video "Ultimate Advanced Revolver" outlines it pretty well--standard method for revolver reloading. Push cylinder release with right thumb,grasp around frame with left, flip muzzle up while pushing cylinder out with middle and ring finger of left hand, press ejector rod with left thumb, right hand is at same time going for another loaded moonclip, tilt muzzle down, drop in charged moonclip, close cylinder with heel of left hand while at same time taking grip with right.
I'll take a peek at the video later, but I am pretty sure he uses the standard method.
JohnKSa
February 11, 2005, 09:06 PM
Guy,
That's right.
Right thumb releases cylinder, left hand grasps gun around the front/bottom of the frame and the fingers push the cylinder open. The left hand tilts the barrel up and the left thumb ejects the empties & full-moon clip. In the meantime the right hand went to the belt for a full-moon clip and as it comes back, the left hand is tilting the muzzle down so the right hand can drop the new rounds in. When the rounds seat, the left thumb pushes the cylinder closed while the right hand takes a grip.
Jerry decided that indexing the rounds and getting them into the chamber was the "hard part" (it's all hard to me) and so he decided that his right hand should be doing that job. Using his left hand to push open the cylinder, eject the empties and control the gun also means that he can be retrieving the reloads simultaneously. There's never any "dead time" during the reload, something's always happening, and a good bit of the time there are a couple of things happening at once.
Someone asked him how many rounds it took him to get that good and he said he didn't know how much commercial ammo he's fired but that he has shot over 800,000 rounds of his own reloads.
I once saw some video of Jerry shooting blind folded on American Shooter. He did the "six-shots reload six-shots" and kept all his shots on a D1 target at around 10 feet. There's a LOT of muscle memory involved in his shooting and you don't just pick that up overnight!!!
That's right.
Right thumb releases cylinder, left hand grasps gun around the front/bottom of the frame and the fingers push the cylinder open. The left hand tilts the barrel up and the left thumb ejects the empties & full-moon clip. In the meantime the right hand went to the belt for a full-moon clip and as it comes back, the left hand is tilting the muzzle down so the right hand can drop the new rounds in. When the rounds seat, the left thumb pushes the cylinder closed while the right hand takes a grip.
Jerry decided that indexing the rounds and getting them into the chamber was the "hard part" (it's all hard to me) and so he decided that his right hand should be doing that job. Using his left hand to push open the cylinder, eject the empties and control the gun also means that he can be retrieving the reloads simultaneously. There's never any "dead time" during the reload, something's always happening, and a good bit of the time there are a couple of things happening at once.
Someone asked him how many rounds it took him to get that good and he said he didn't know how much commercial ammo he's fired but that he has shot over 800,000 rounds of his own reloads.
I once saw some video of Jerry shooting blind folded on American Shooter. He did the "six-shots reload six-shots" and kept all his shots on a D1 target at around 10 feet. There's a LOT of muscle memory involved in his shooting and you don't just pick that up overnight!!!
AirPower
February 12, 2005, 04:55 AM
I'm really amazed how fast he can shoot the wheel gun. Does anyone know if there's a technique to fast shooting DA revolver like Jerry does? Maybe he has a super light tuned trigger. His reload is insanely fast as well.
http://home.cinci.rr.com/vladdies/fastshooter.wmv
http://home.cinci.rr.com/vladdies/fastshooter.wmv
Charles S
February 12, 2005, 05:47 AM
The trigger is not supper light....Jerry just polishes everything in the action until it is very smooth.
As for the reload he is using moon clips....When you see him do it in person it looks like he throws the clip into the gun.
He is an incredible shooter and a great instructor. I highly recomend one of his classes. I have taken several.
http://www.bang-inc.com/
Charles
As for the reload he is using moon clips....When you see him do it in person it looks like he throws the clip into the gun.
He is an incredible shooter and a great instructor. I highly recomend one of his classes. I have taken several.
http://www.bang-inc.com/
Charles
BluesBear
February 12, 2005, 07:07 AM
We've already been discussing this over in this thread (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=124710).
Doesn't anyone pay attention anymore?
Doesn't anyone pay attention anymore?
Brasso
February 12, 2005, 11:34 AM
Does anyone have a copy of that where the audio and video are in sync?
Guy B. Meredith
February 12, 2005, 01:48 PM
Go down to the local gunshop and get Jerry's video "Ultimate Advanced Revolver". Dunno if you can order it on line.
Lots of action, instruction and information for a reasoanble price.
Lots of action, instruction and information for a reasoanble price.
Winston
February 16, 2005, 09:34 PM
The link to Jerry's high speed shooting seems to be broken. Any other source for the video available?
YodaVader
February 17, 2005, 12:04 AM
There was a show on the History Channel I believe - "The History of Smith&Wesson" or Tales of the Gun -"Magnums". I recorded it a few years back. Anyway there is a segment showing the record being shot by Jerry. It is incredible footage to say the least! Also, another record he set - he shoots six shots , reloads, and shoots another 6 shots in like 2.9 seconds if I remember correctly!
Guy B. Meredith
February 17, 2005, 12:43 AM
American Shooter had a segment or two on Jerry's record setting and one on Shooting USA. I don't see videos available any more and sent a message off to Jim Scoutten to ask about that.
unreal45
February 18, 2005, 02:40 PM
Here is a new link http://members.cox.net/vespernoir/fastshooter.wmv
STW
February 25, 2005, 05:33 PM
This guy is scary fast.
http://www.m90.org/view_image.php?image_id=3232
http://www.m90.org/view_image.php?image_id=3232
Larry Ashcraft
February 25, 2005, 05:42 PM
That's Jerry Miculek. And, yes, he is fast.
Brad Johnson
February 25, 2005, 05:47 PM
Check out THIS reload! And you have to watch very, very carefully...
Blink of an eye reload (http://www.doublealpha.biz/images/travis_reload.mpg)
Brad
Blink of an eye reload (http://www.doublealpha.biz/images/travis_reload.mpg)
Brad
NHBB
February 25, 2005, 06:00 PM
now I am sure he is working with a hair trigger and light handloads or what not, but this is pretty impressive imo.... the reload blew my mind, never seen it close to that fast in my life.
http://www.m90.org/view_image.php?image_id=3232
http://www.m90.org/view_image.php?image_id=3232
flatdog
February 25, 2005, 06:22 PM
That's Jerry Miculek "The Worlds Fastest Revolver Shooter". I was at the Clark Custom Guns Shop one day and heard what I took to be full auto fire coming from the range.
I asked who was firing and what weapon he was using, and was met with a sly grin and "Oh, that's not full auto. It's just Jerry shootin' his revolver. He's practicing for a three gun match next month in Vegas".
Incredulous, I asked for and was granted permission to observe and saw very nearly the same astounding display by Mr. Miculek as pictured in the video.
I didn't realize I was watching a legend practicing to make firearms history.
flatdog
I asked who was firing and what weapon he was using, and was met with a sly grin and "Oh, that's not full auto. It's just Jerry shootin' his revolver. He's practicing for a three gun match next month in Vegas".
Incredulous, I asked for and was granted permission to observe and saw very nearly the same astounding display by Mr. Miculek as pictured in the video.
I didn't realize I was watching a legend practicing to make firearms history.
flatdog
bountyhunter
February 25, 2005, 06:43 PM
I saw "Machine Gun" Jerry here at our range. And after the show, he goes and picks the crappiest beat up range rental revolver in the place and does the same thing... as if there was any confusion about it being a "trick gun".
Nazirite
February 25, 2005, 07:08 PM
That’s amazing :eek:
Wonder how long the guy practiced before he accomplished that feat.
Wonder how long the guy practiced before he accomplished that feat.
Boats
February 25, 2005, 07:38 PM
That ability to do it without a tricked out gun is what sets JM apart. With enough practice, almost anyone can make a fast reload into a funneled bottom feeder with a mag well the size of a small pit. Getting a speedloader or moonclips into six or more holes in a cylinder in the blink of an eye is just something that you can either do or you can't and practice won't necessarily get you anywhere near as fast as JM on a revolver.
HungSquirrel
February 25, 2005, 07:39 PM
I think the caption says it all.
WARNING - Do NOT burglerize this guy's house
WARNING - Do NOT burglerize this guy's house
Larry Ashcraft
February 25, 2005, 08:08 PM
I read somewhere that JM doesn't shoot auto's because they are "too slow".
Larry Ashcraft
February 25, 2005, 08:09 PM
Duplicate thread running here:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=127373
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=127373
DesertRat
February 25, 2005, 08:14 PM
That's f'n sick. :uhoh:
106rr
February 25, 2005, 08:16 PM
I was able to see Jerry Miculek in action at Reed's Indoor Range in San Jose. His performance was truly amazing. Everyone present was astonished at the the speed and accuracy. It was magic. He is also a real nice guy.
Michigander
February 25, 2005, 08:57 PM
WOW! is right!
JohnKSa
February 25, 2005, 09:34 PM
I am sure he is working with a hair trigger and light handloadsNope. Trigger is pretty much standard and his handloads are somewhere close to +P levels.
He's just very, very good. And he's shot somewhere upwards of 800,000 rounds in his life. He says he doesn't know the exact number--the 800K number is only what he's handloaded!
He's just very, very good. And he's shot somewhere upwards of 800,000 rounds in his life. He says he doesn't know the exact number--the 800K number is only what he's handloaded!
IMtheNRA
February 25, 2005, 09:50 PM
What is the revolver that he is using?
flatdog
February 25, 2005, 10:14 PM
This is an interesting link about the man and his guns.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_9_48/ai_89808627
flatdog
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_9_48/ai_89808627
flatdog
DRZinn
February 25, 2005, 11:09 PM
HOLY S - sorry. WOW!
Guy B. Meredith
February 26, 2005, 12:09 AM
Uh, he didn't set those records as the article said. He CREATED those records.
9mmepiphany
February 26, 2005, 12:46 AM
he shoots the 8 shot strings with a PC M-627 8 shot , 357mag loaded with .38 special cases loaded to +p levels
the 6+6 is shot with the PC M-625 6 shot .45 acp using moon clips and FMJ hardball
the 6+6 is shot with the PC M-625 6 shot .45 acp using moon clips and FMJ hardball
Dionysusigma
February 26, 2005, 12:55 AM
:scrutiny:
:eek:
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:what: Of all that's Holy...
:uhoh: *sees drool all over keyboard* :o
Direct Link Here (http://www.m90.org/./gallery/video/fastshooter.wmv)
:eek:
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:what: Of all that's Holy...
:uhoh: *sees drool all over keyboard* :o
Direct Link Here (http://www.m90.org/./gallery/video/fastshooter.wmv)
Remander
February 26, 2005, 01:37 AM
http://www.bang-inc.com/ (site by Jerry and his wife, Kay, also a top shooter)
Jerry Miculek is one of the most versatile speed shoters in the world. Although famous for being the fastest revolver shooter on the planet, a short list of Jerry's shooting accomplishments gives just a clue as to his expertise with all types of firearms, including shotguns, rifles and semi-auto pistols.
* Three-time USPSA 3-Gun National Champion
* Four-time 2nd Chance Bowling Pin Champion
* 1997 American Handgunner World Shootoff Champion
* Six-time International Revolver Champion
* Member of three-time winning pro team at Chevy Truck Sportsmans Team Challenge
* Three-time Masters International Long Gun Champion
* Over the past three years, Jerry has won twenty out of twenty-four American Handgunner World Shootoff side matches including .22 rifle, .22 pistol, semi-auto shotgun, pump shotgun, semi-auto rifle, bolt action rifle and lever action rifle.
http://www.shootingusa.com/TV_SCHEDULE/SHOW_24-22/show_24-22.html
He is considered the fastest man alive with a double action revolver, after setting three world speed shooting records in 1999. Now Jerry wants two more records from the past. He’s trying to break the late Ed McGivern’s record for 5 shots from a revolver in 0.60 sec. and six shots from each of 10 revolvers in less than 20 seconds.
******************
Not sure if he's done it yet, but I saw him when he was practicing for that 10 revolver record. He was pretty impressive. Those six-guns sounded like autos.
Kay and Jerry also run a gun shop, Clark Guns and Personal Safety, in Bossier City, Louisiana. It just moved to 5903 East Texas, Bossier City, LA 71111. Nice folks.
Jerry Miculek is one of the most versatile speed shoters in the world. Although famous for being the fastest revolver shooter on the planet, a short list of Jerry's shooting accomplishments gives just a clue as to his expertise with all types of firearms, including shotguns, rifles and semi-auto pistols.
* Three-time USPSA 3-Gun National Champion
* Four-time 2nd Chance Bowling Pin Champion
* 1997 American Handgunner World Shootoff Champion
* Six-time International Revolver Champion
* Member of three-time winning pro team at Chevy Truck Sportsmans Team Challenge
* Three-time Masters International Long Gun Champion
* Over the past three years, Jerry has won twenty out of twenty-four American Handgunner World Shootoff side matches including .22 rifle, .22 pistol, semi-auto shotgun, pump shotgun, semi-auto rifle, bolt action rifle and lever action rifle.
http://www.shootingusa.com/TV_SCHEDULE/SHOW_24-22/show_24-22.html
He is considered the fastest man alive with a double action revolver, after setting three world speed shooting records in 1999. Now Jerry wants two more records from the past. He’s trying to break the late Ed McGivern’s record for 5 shots from a revolver in 0.60 sec. and six shots from each of 10 revolvers in less than 20 seconds.
******************
Not sure if he's done it yet, but I saw him when he was practicing for that 10 revolver record. He was pretty impressive. Those six-guns sounded like autos.
Kay and Jerry also run a gun shop, Clark Guns and Personal Safety, in Bossier City, Louisiana. It just moved to 5903 East Texas, Bossier City, LA 71111. Nice folks.
MAURICE
February 26, 2005, 01:42 AM
I had the chance to watch Mr Miculek shoot (some time ago) at a local range. He was promoting S&W products, IIRC. The man is insanely fast. The man is insanely accurate. I am insanely jealous. :D
Guy B. Meredith
February 26, 2005, 11:04 AM
Jerry did recently do the 10 guns in 20 seconds. Had a program covering it in either the History chanel or ShootingUSA.
You can catch Jerry at the International Reveover Championship match in San Louis Obispo the weekend of June 10 through 12. The local media is usually out there asking him to demo for the folks at home.
You can catch Jerry at the International Reveover Championship match in San Louis Obispo the weekend of June 10 through 12. The local media is usually out there asking him to demo for the folks at home.
Ankeny
February 26, 2005, 11:26 AM
Yeppers, Jerry Miculek is fast. Wish I had a film of Rich Bitow shooting the El Presidente in 5.75 seconds at the Factory Gun Nationals a few years back with a Smith and Wesson 25-2. Miculek even gave special recognition to that feat during the awards ceremony.
9mmepiphany
February 26, 2005, 01:39 PM
i'm really impress with his technique for reloading with the moonclips. i guess i wasn't pushing the envelope enough when i was experimenting with them. once you've seen it done/realise it can be done, your willing to try it too.
i used to be impressed when a co-worker could reload his smith M-19, with HKS spedloaders (gotta be the slowest on the market), faster than most of the officers in the class could reload their sigs and berettas. but nothing compares with the "toss them in" method.
now to decide between the .45acp or the 9mm...they have to be short and stubby to make it work.
i used to be impressed when a co-worker could reload his smith M-19, with HKS spedloaders (gotta be the slowest on the market), faster than most of the officers in the class could reload their sigs and berettas. but nothing compares with the "toss them in" method.
now to decide between the .45acp or the 9mm...they have to be short and stubby to make it work.
45crittergitter
February 28, 2005, 01:22 PM
I wuz actually there for them thar 3 records.... :D
DragonFire
February 28, 2005, 03:32 PM
now to decide between the .45acp or the 9mm...they have to be short and stubby to make it work.
Actually, my 9mm Taurus that uses moonclips isn't anywhere near as fast to reload. The small moonclips seem more fragile and don't hold the rounds as secure as the larger ones.
If you're not into .45's then try the 610 in 10mm and also shoots .40S&W. Lots of power with the 10mm, and they reload just as fast as the .45's. It's usually a toss-up between the 625's and 610's at IDPA.
Actually, my 9mm Taurus that uses moonclips isn't anywhere near as fast to reload. The small moonclips seem more fragile and don't hold the rounds as secure as the larger ones.
If you're not into .45's then try the 610 in 10mm and also shoots .40S&W. Lots of power with the 10mm, and they reload just as fast as the .45's. It's usually a toss-up between the 625's and 610's at IDPA.
Grayrock
March 4, 2005, 12:45 AM
http://members.cox.net/vespernoir/fastshooter.wmv
:eek: Man- that's fast!! Sounds like full auto- the reload blows me away, too!
:eek: Man- that's fast!! Sounds like full auto- the reload blows me away, too!
Tony Mig
March 4, 2005, 08:06 AM
Jerry Micluk is the man when it comes to wheel guns.
He holds a few world records shooting his S&W wheelies.....
He holds a few world records shooting his S&W wheelies.....
Big Mike
March 4, 2005, 02:26 PM
In my youthful ignorance, nobody would have convinced me that a skilled revolver shooter could shoot as fast/reload shoot again as fast as they do. Then I saw it happen and said to myself,"Lesson learned."
sloman
March 5, 2005, 05:23 PM
What modifications were done to that gun?
When he reloaded, was it with moon clips?
Type ammo?
:banghead:
When he reloaded, was it with moon clips?
Type ammo?
:banghead:
Tijeras_Slim
March 5, 2005, 05:39 PM
Howdy sloman!
JM was shooting a 625 in the reload sequence (.45ACP), and he does use moonclips, and I'm certain he has chamfered the chamber mouths as well. AFAIK he lightens up the trigger pull with different weight springs (main and rebound slide) and hones the action for smoothness. The grips are a signature thing of his, and he prefers a grooved trigger, high front gold bead sight, and white outline rear.
I've also seen footage of him shooting very fast with an 8 3/8th inch Model 27, and a 2 1/2 inch model 66.
JM was shooting a 625 in the reload sequence (.45ACP), and he does use moonclips, and I'm certain he has chamfered the chamber mouths as well. AFAIK he lightens up the trigger pull with different weight springs (main and rebound slide) and hones the action for smoothness. The grips are a signature thing of his, and he prefers a grooved trigger, high front gold bead sight, and white outline rear.
I've also seen footage of him shooting very fast with an 8 3/8th inch Model 27, and a 2 1/2 inch model 66.
HighVelocity
March 5, 2005, 05:50 PM
Now THATS what I call gun control.
BluesBear
March 6, 2005, 07:10 AM
It seems the Jerry Miculek video is making the internet rounds a lot lately.
We've discussed it a few times in the past month.
February 9th 2005 (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=124710)
February 12th 2005 (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=125177)
February 25th 2005 (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=127373)
February 25th 2005 (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=127379)
I'm surprised that it took this long to surface since, I believe, this footage is from a spring 2003 episode of "Tales Of the Gun".
We've discussed it a few times in the past month.
February 9th 2005 (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=124710)
February 12th 2005 (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=125177)
February 25th 2005 (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=127373)
February 25th 2005 (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=127379)
I'm surprised that it took this long to surface since, I believe, this footage is from a spring 2003 episode of "Tales Of the Gun".
Deadman
March 20, 2005, 06:20 AM
I'm not sure if this has been posted before, but for those who haven't seen this video here's a link to some very fast revolver fire.
http://www.rpgfirearms.com.au/MPEGS/Fast-shooting.wmv
http://www.rpgfirearms.com.au/MPEGS/Fast-shooting.wmv
rem
March 20, 2005, 07:12 AM
That is awesome. I had to watch the reload part again because I blinked.
VARifleman
March 20, 2005, 07:20 AM
I've seen some practical pistol shooters shoot with .45 ACP revolvers, he reloaded faster than the auto shooters... :eek:
justice4all
March 20, 2005, 09:40 AM
It sounds like a machine gun.
big inch
March 20, 2005, 10:36 AM
He's pretty fast. :eek:
sixguns
March 20, 2005, 12:10 PM
The speed of the reload is absolutely unbelieveable!
Daemon688
March 20, 2005, 02:08 PM
That is AMAZING! Wonder how long it took him to get to that level. :uhoh:
JohnKSa
March 20, 2005, 03:53 PM
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homeka45
March 20, 2005, 03:59 PM
What an incredible degree of neuromuscular training and development. Seen it before but it's always worth watching again. Thanks.
BluesBear
March 20, 2005, 05:55 PM
It seems the Jerry Miculek video is making the internet rounds a lot lately.
We've discussed it a few times in the past month.
We've discussed it a few times in the past month.
rem
March 20, 2005, 07:31 PM
We get it BluesBear, sheesh.
I have never seen this video before. Thank you, Deadman. :)
I have never seen this video before. Thank you, Deadman. :)
Rebeldon
March 20, 2005, 09:28 PM
That was amazingly fast! I know I can't shoot my semi-automatic pistols that fast.
Guy B. Meredith
March 20, 2005, 09:50 PM
BluesBear,
Guess we are just trying to make sure the auto fans get the message. :D
Guess we are just trying to make sure the auto fans get the message. :D
BluesBear
March 20, 2005, 10:14 PM
I understand that Guy. I am a huge big bore revolver proponent.
95% of the time I'm carrying a revolver and I am confident in its capabilities of saving my life yet again if need be.
I just keep cross referencing the older threads so everyone's opinions and comments can be seen.
It's also my apparently all too subtle hint that perhaps the threads would be more useful if they were merged.
95% of the time I'm carrying a revolver and I am confident in its capabilities of saving my life yet again if need be.
I just keep cross referencing the older threads so everyone's opinions and comments can be seen.
It's also my apparently all too subtle hint that perhaps the threads would be more useful if they were merged.
Guy B. Meredith
March 21, 2005, 12:03 AM
Yeah, as much as I like and admire Jerry you are right. With all the threads I was beginning to repeat myself.
Jenrick
March 21, 2005, 12:10 AM
Does anyone know what history channel program that was from?
Thanks,
-Jenrick
Thanks,
-Jenrick
BluesBear
March 21, 2005, 02:16 AM
Tales of the Gun
I think that episode was Magnums from 2003. It had a lot of S&W coverage.
it gets rerun a couple of times each year.
I think that episode was Magnums from 2003. It had a lot of S&W coverage.
it gets rerun a couple of times each year.
waktasz
March 21, 2005, 12:32 PM
Lest we forget that revolvers are mechanically faster than autos.
LawDog
March 21, 2005, 01:28 PM
Multiple threads merged.
LawDog
LawDog
Guy B. Meredith
March 21, 2005, 01:46 PM
If you can, run down videos of the American Shooter program for great recordings of the record making event (producers are no longer making videos available) or get Jerry's video "Ultimate Advanced Revolver" for some examples and lots of great revolver shooting basics.
Jenrick
March 21, 2005, 10:40 PM
Thanks for the info and tip, I'll look into both of those. That video clip might have just made me a wheelgun man :)
After looking at his website it's $3200 (8 person min at $400) for 2 days of instruction anywhere in the US with him. I'd be willing to bet I could get a group of people together here in central Texas for that... (wheels turning).
-Jenrick
After looking at his website it's $3200 (8 person min at $400) for 2 days of instruction anywhere in the US with him. I'd be willing to bet I could get a group of people together here in central Texas for that... (wheels turning).
-Jenrick
Guy B. Meredith
March 22, 2005, 12:03 AM
Training anywhere? Hmm.... Somehow I missed that one. I think I could collect about 15 to 20 people without sweating it. Hmm...
JohnKSa
March 22, 2005, 02:36 PM
Lest we forget that revolvers are mechanically faster than autos.True, but I have seen no credible evidence that humans can shoot faster than a typical semi-auto can cycle.
You can figure that the cyclic rate of a semi-auto pistol is around 1000rpm--from what I can determine they invariably cycle faster than that, but 1000 is a nice round number. That's between 16 and 17 shots a second--more than twice as fast as Mr. Miculek's record 8 shots in one second.
You can figure that the cyclic rate of a semi-auto pistol is around 1000rpm--from what I can determine they invariably cycle faster than that, but 1000 is a nice round number. That's between 16 and 17 shots a second--more than twice as fast as Mr. Miculek's record 8 shots in one second.
Remander
March 24, 2005, 12:37 AM
Mr. Miculek is scheduled to put on a demonstration of his speed shooting at "Smith & Wesson Days" (April 8 & 9) on Saturday, April 9, 2005 at noon.
Location: Caddo Rifle and Pistol Club off Hwy 80 East, Princeton, LA. (Just east of Shreveport and Bossier City.)
The range is right next to Clark Custom Guns, 336 Shootout Lane, Princeton LA 71067 (if you want to map it).
I have seen him a couple of times live, and he is pretty impressive.
S&W is supposed to have all of their guns on display and available to shoot on Friday from noon + and all day Saturday. You do have to pay an ammo fee.
I am not associated with this event; I just saw a newsletter that announced it.
Location: Caddo Rifle and Pistol Club off Hwy 80 East, Princeton, LA. (Just east of Shreveport and Bossier City.)
The range is right next to Clark Custom Guns, 336 Shootout Lane, Princeton LA 71067 (if you want to map it).
I have seen him a couple of times live, and he is pretty impressive.
S&W is supposed to have all of their guns on display and available to shoot on Friday from noon + and all day Saturday. You do have to pay an ammo fee.
I am not associated with this event; I just saw a newsletter that announced it.
mfree
March 24, 2005, 01:46 AM
Johnksa:
There is one important thing that makes the argument for a faster revolver. When you fire a revolver, all the actions that put the fresh round in line to be fired happen *during* the trigger pull, and in an SA all the actions that happen to make ready to fire happen *between* trigger pulls.
A revolver can fire literally as fast as you can pull the trigger, where with an SA you can only pull the trigger so fast because you've got to "wait" for the slide to rebound, strip the round, and go into battery.
So, in theory, the revolver is mechanically faster.
EDIT: Which is, actually, *exactly* what you said, and I'm perhaps at the perilous moment where I've had enough beer to make me talkative but enough beer to remove some of my intelligence :) A little more and I'll shut up :D :evil:
There is one important thing that makes the argument for a faster revolver. When you fire a revolver, all the actions that put the fresh round in line to be fired happen *during* the trigger pull, and in an SA all the actions that happen to make ready to fire happen *between* trigger pulls.
A revolver can fire literally as fast as you can pull the trigger, where with an SA you can only pull the trigger so fast because you've got to "wait" for the slide to rebound, strip the round, and go into battery.
So, in theory, the revolver is mechanically faster.
EDIT: Which is, actually, *exactly* what you said, and I'm perhaps at the perilous moment where I've had enough beer to make me talkative but enough beer to remove some of my intelligence :) A little more and I'll shut up :D :evil:
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