Model 7 .308 Recoil


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Arcli9ht
March 11, 2003, 07:59 PM
Been looking at the Remington Model 7 (the really lightweight bolt action) chambered in .308. It seems to me, that if you put a scope on it, would it make you a member of the crimson circle society because it is so light? Anyone have any experience with it? Thoughts?

/Arcli9ht

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dakotasin
March 11, 2003, 08:41 PM
crimson circle society?? that's funny! never heard it put like that before. :D

to get to your question...probably not. i say probably because the scopes i use (leupolds) have a very generous eye relief, and you do really have to work to get bit by one...although i managed once (another story for another topic).

also, a model 7, while lightweight, isn't that light, and recoil of a 308 isn't that heavy. add on rings, bases, scope, sling, and a full mag, and you might be surprised at how heavy most rifles actually are, even a model 7.

if recoil in this nifty package really is a concern, i'd suggest going w/ a model 7 chambered to 7-08 (an awesome, but underrated cartridge)...mostly the same as the 308, but the 7mm's have lighter viable hunting bullets available, and lighter bullets are one way to reduce recoil a touch.

i guess i wouldn't be concerned if i was buying this rifle...

cratz2
March 11, 2003, 08:58 PM
I have a 700ADL Synthetic in 270 that weighs an actual weighed 7.6 lbs with rings, mounts and 3-10x scope. My wife shoots it just fine and Weaver Grand Slams aren't known for entended eye relief.

I'd expect 130 grain 270s kick pert near the same as 165 Gr 308s, rifle weight being equal. A Model 7 should be just fine leaving no cuts.

Now if I owned that custom six pound 300 Win Mag I shot with no muzzle break, I'd have a long eye relief scope, for sure! Of course, I'd never own something like that.

Soap
March 11, 2003, 10:01 PM
It seems to me, that if you put a scope on it, would it make you a member of the crimson circle society because it is so light?

The recoil is not bad at all. You'll only hurt yourself if you hold the rifle wrong or you buy a scope that has very short eye relief.

twoblink
March 11, 2003, 10:50 PM
The only time a 308 bolt bangs you up is if you don't have it pressed on your shoulders tightly..

Also, I bought a slip-on rubber booty for my bolt. Pussycat!

Art Eatman
March 12, 2003, 12:09 AM
My 7mm08 weighs 6-1/4 pounds, ready to go hunting.

7mm08: 140-grain bullet at around 2,800 ft/sec.
.308: 150-grain bullet at around 2,800 ft/sec.

Off the bench, my 7mm08's recoil is just not enough to worry about. I don't see why a Model 7 in .308 would be a problem, unless the stock doesn't fit.

Art

JHill
March 12, 2003, 12:38 PM
I have had a Rem. m7 in .308 for about upteen years. I love it!

I have killed about 20+ deer with it--longest shot being ~90 yds.

Recoil IMO is moderate in the summer in a tshirt. During season I never notice the recoil except the couple of times that I have transitioned to iron sights and had the scope put a little "crease" at the top of my nose at my forehead.

My new favorite round is 150gr ballistic tips.

Come to think of it I don't think I have put more than 200 rds thru the gun. :uhoh:

That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

gyrfalcon
March 12, 2003, 12:59 PM
I have an older Model Seven with a wood stock and 18.5" barrel in .308 with a Leupold 2.5-8x36 scope. As others have said recoil depends on your perspective. Personally I found the recoil to be unpleasant on the bench but acceptable in the field. Once you sight it in you should have no problem.
I decided to have a JP muzzle brake installed just for fun because I have had a lot of fun with my JP space gun that came with the huge muzzle brake. JP has a deal for about $300 which includes the muzzle brake, cryo treatment, and a trigger job. The result is a gun that looks kind of funny with the tank style brake on a skinny barrel. It now has basically no recoil, very loud muzzle blast, an excellent target trigger and 0.5 inch 3 shot groups. Your mileage may vary.

9mmepiphany
March 12, 2003, 02:19 PM
if you're really worried about the recoil in the model 7, might i suggest one in .260 rem. it is a 6.5mm slug coming out of a .308 case.

i consider the .260 a perfect match for the model 7. light weight, low recoil, accurracy and good ballistics over extended ranges. it should be enought for anything in north america short of moose or big bear

WYO
March 12, 2003, 06:41 PM
My scoped 700 Ti in .308 weighs the same as a Model 7 without the scope. It has a Leupold 2.5X8 on it. There is no problem. 180's buck more from the bench than 150's, but I really have no concern about being "scoped." My .338 was a different story, but I doubt you'd notice a significant difference between a .260/7-08 or .308.

goon
March 12, 2003, 08:12 PM
If you want a soft shooting 308, here is what you should do.
Buy the one that you want.
Learn how to handload.
I can shoot either of mine all day long with the right loads.
There is no need to beat yourself up when you are just shooting into a big dirt pile anyway.
All you have to do is come up with a fairly light load that impacts at the same place as your field load. Just like that, you are suddenly shooting the world's coolest .22 (sort of).
It is not that hard.
And you can still use the full power stuff for hunting.

My new practice load is a Sinterfire 125GR loaded with 44GR of win 748. The load has very little recoil, shoots to the same POI as my 165GR loads, and is pretty accurate.
What else could a guy need?

one-shot-one
March 12, 2003, 08:40 PM
have a rem. mod. 600 mohawk (the fore father of the mod. 7)
18.5" bbl. and synthic stock with see thur mounts and have never been hit with the scope.

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